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SamuriHL · 11th February 2023, 12:38

No... he's not.

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/imp...ink_source=app

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Betroz · 11th February 2023, 12:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamuriHL

No... he's not.

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/imp...ink_source=app

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mclingo · 11th February 2023, 14:19

There is no new full version to download as such, however the madvr measure downloads do also contain core madvr updates, this is what people are referring to.

mclingo · 11th February 2023, 14:21

167 is latest

mclingo · 11th February 2023, 14:28

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/imp...54506/page-799

dont think 167 is official yet, last post madshi made was 166

SamuriHL · 11th February 2023, 16:55

Stupid phone didn't paste the link properly. Yes 166 beta is the latest that just got released yesterday. That's 166 builds since the last official release. You simply extract them into the madvr folder to update. They are also time limited so you'll need to update when new builds are released to continue using them.

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Betroz · 11th February 2023, 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamuriHL

Stupid phone didn't paste the link properly. Yes 166 beta is the latest that just got released yesterday. That's 166 builds since the last official release. You simply extract them into the madvr folder to update. They are also time limited so you'll need to update when new builds are released to continue using them.

Thank you!

Then I will just stick to what I got for now.

Klaus1189 · 15th February 2023, 19:23

Since AMD Ryzen 7000 has an iGPU based on RDNA 3 (AMD Radeon 780M) and bugs seem to be fixed, I thin kit could be a good choice for a budget HTPC. I know higher madVR settings will not work, but it is a good budget option.
I looked at a AM5 Motherboard with HDMI output it says in specs that it supports not only HDMI 2.1 but it says specifically 4K 120 Hz, which sound great for a low cost HTPC.

Intel UHD iGPU in 12th and 13th gen supports HDMI 2.1, but in specs it is always listed as 4K 60 Hz and I do not know if Intel has a good hardware deinterlacer which is frame adaptive.

If anyone has a 12th or 13 gen cpu from intel, please let me know, you colud do a small test for me.

(I am only interested in HDMI, not Displayport for HTPC)

AMD Ryzen 5 7600 and AMD Ryzen 5 7600X cheapest option

Grimsdyke · 15th February 2023, 21:25

I wait for AMD's 6700G to see how it performs. And, of course, the price should reasonable too.

apophis906 · 15th February 2023, 22:42

I thought this would be the best place to ask about this issue. So I will randomly have glitches with my 4K playback if using hardware decoding. This is with my own re-encodes so far. This has happened when I had an older i5 board and an evga 1060 6g SC. I upgraded the board and CPU to a 3700x and still had the same issues. I just changed the card out for a evga 2060 KO ultra and it too shows the glitches. These glitches will happen at the same spot when they do happen and changing the encode settings any will usually make it not happen in that movie in that spot again. The other solution I figured out was to find the exact frame that it happened and use a QP file to put an I frame at that spot and it would not happen. So far my solution for the past few months has been to just use software decode since the 3700x has no trouble doing it. The problem is that I have two HTPC's and the second one would randomly show similar glitches but not be repeatable. So stopping the movie and starting it over and it would not have the glitch at that spot again. Unlike with hardware decoding where it always did it. My question is does anyone else have similar glitches with hardware decoding or any idea why I have these glitches. Especially since I have changed the motherboard and CPU as well as video card and still get them. Also the second HTPC has had its OS clean installed again. This happened on 385.28 and the ones I would test all the way up to 517.48 that I am using now. While using software decoding is so far the easiest solution. My problem was the second HTPC that would show the glitches as well as have playback crashes at times. That is the main reason for the upgrade from the 1060 to 2060. This is a pic of the glitch happening and this happens on both HTPC with any version of hardware decoding active.

mclingo · 16th February 2023, 00:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klaus1189

Since AMD Ryzen 7000 has an iGPU based on RDNA 3 (AMD Radeon 780M) and bugs seem to be fixed, I thin kit could be a good choice for a budget HTPC. I know higher madVR settings will not work, but it is a good budget option.
I looked at a AM5 Motherboard with HDMI output it says in specs that it supports not only HDMI 2.1 but it says specifically 4K 120 Hz, which sound great for a low cost HTPC.

Intel UHD iGPU in 12th and 13th gen supports HDMI 2.1, but in specs it is always listed as 4K 60 Hz and I do not know if Intel has a good hardware deinterlacer which is frame adaptive.

If anyone has a 12th or 13 gen cpu from intel, please let me know, you colud do a small test for me.

(I am only interested in HDMI, not Displayport for HTPC)

AMD Ryzen 5 7600 and AMD Ryzen 5 7600X cheapest option

Hi, is everything fixed in the 7000 series?, video and audio issues? do you know if anyone has reported any audio dropouts, these plagued 5000 and 6000 users with recievers, albeit mainly in gaming.

Klaus1189 · 18th February 2023, 12:11

No info yet

ashlar42 · 18th February 2023, 12:27

Does anybody know what was the last version of Nvidia drivers capable of saving EDID when there are less than 2 bytes available in a block?

For reference: https://www.monitortests.com/forum/T...14402#pid14402

Klaus1189 · 18th February 2023, 12:48

How can I test?

ashlar42 · 19th February 2023, 01:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klaus1189

How can I test?

If you are asking regarding my question, the only test I can suggest is finding an EDID with less than 2 bytes available in a block and trying to edit it. Don't know if there are other ways.

Bearing in mind that it crashes the driver from CRU (and no F8 recovery either, it's safe mode and reset-all after that).

I don't know if ToastyX has info on that, I've asked.

Sunspark · 19th February 2023, 10:44

@Klaus1189 Not the 11-12th gen you wanted, this test you requested is actually with 5th gen (Broadwell). I can state the results however. Using DXVA2 hardware decoding, there are no visible lines on the snooker player's shirt. If I use quicksync HW decoding, software chroma scaling and leave de-interlacing turned off I can see the lines, so this is evidence to me that the hardware decoder handles it automatically. This isn't really a surprise to me, Intel has always been good at video playback, it doesn't have the chroma error in DXVA that AMD and Nvidia had either. Update: Also, Quicksync decoding and turning the adaptive HW deinterlacing option in LAV video decoder on/off also works which is nice too, because that means you can pick and choose which chroma and image scaling algos you want to use in MadVR but the HW will do the deinterlacing instead of doing it in software in MadVR or being required to use DXVA chroma/image scaling if you're using MPCVR (though you could still use the MPCVR shaders for scaling w/ quicksync decoding and hw deinterlacing if using LAV). Hope this helps.

Klaus1189 · 19th February 2023, 11:24

Are the characters above "WWW.D88.COM" also not flickering? What CPU do you test exactly?

Sunspark · 19th February 2023, 11:44

The Chinese characters aren't flickering, no. It does look subtly better using the Quicksync decoding HW deinterlacing than with the DXVA deinterlacing though the difference is quite minimal (and might be erased if one used the MPC decoder instead of LAV, who knows?).

The CPU is an Intel Core i5 5250U.

I also have a Steam Deck which uses a custom AMD RDNA2 APU but I have not yet tested it with video playback. Don't really need to, considering the Intel seems fine to use. I generally just do the chroma upscaling in software, and image scaling using the monitor's built-in scaler.

zealvix · 19th February 2023, 17:56

Hi,

"Color levels (full 0-255 vs. limited 16-235) are broken. That means limited 16-235 which is the
standard range for videos are interpreted as 0-255 and this leads to elevated blacks and dimm
whites."

1. is the 7XXX series of radeon cards still affected by above bug?

2. Is the integrated RDNA2 GPUin mobile CPUs affected as well?

3. Does the version of madvr (0.92.17 or beta) make a difference in term of drivers related bugs?

Thanks.

Klaus1189 · 19th February 2023, 19:09

If you use madVR this bug is circumvented. So you will not see it. But it is in EVR and EVR custom presenter and also in MPC Video Renderer but only when using D3D9, that means if you check D3D11 in options you are fine.

11th February 2023, 12:38	#3001 \| Link
SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	No... he's not. https://www.avsforum.com/threads/imp...ink_source=app Sent from my SM-G998U1 using Tapatalk __________________ HTPC: Windows 11, AMD 5900X, RTX 3080, Pioneer Elite VSX-LX303, LG G2 77" OLED

11th February 2023, 14:19	#3003 \| Link
mclingo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,348	There is no new full version to download as such, however the madvr measure downloads do also contain core madvr updates, this is what people are referring to. __________________ LG OLED EF950-YAM RX-V685-RYZEN 3600 - 16GBRAM - WIN10 RX 5700 - https://www.videohelp.com/software/madVR/old-versions

11th February 2023, 14:21	#3004 \| Link
mclingo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,348	167 is latest __________________ LG OLED EF950-YAM RX-V685-RYZEN 3600 - 16GBRAM - WIN10 RX 5700 - https://www.videohelp.com/software/madVR/old-versions

11th February 2023, 14:28	#3005 \| Link
mclingo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,348	https://www.avsforum.com/threads/imp...54506/page-799 dont think 167 is official yet, last post madshi made was 166 __________________ LG OLED EF950-YAM RX-V685-RYZEN 3600 - 16GBRAM - WIN10 RX 5700 - https://www.videohelp.com/software/madVR/old-versions

11th February 2023, 16:55	#3006 \| Link
SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	Stupid phone didn't paste the link properly. Yes 166 beta is the latest that just got released yesterday. That's 166 builds since the last official release. You simply extract them into the madvr folder to update. They are also time limited so you'll need to update when new builds are released to continue using them. Sent from my SM-G998U1 using Tapatalk __________________ HTPC: Windows 11, AMD 5900X, RTX 3080, Pioneer Elite VSX-LX303, LG G2 77" OLED

15th February 2023, 19:23	#3008 \| Link
Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,667	Since AMD Ryzen 7000 has an iGPU based on RDNA 3 (AMD Radeon 780M) and bugs seem to be fixed, I thin kit could be a good choice for a budget HTPC. I know higher madVR settings will not work, but it is a good budget option. I looked at a AM5 Motherboard with HDMI output it says in specs that it supports not only HDMI 2.1 but it says specifically 4K 120 Hz, which sound great for a low cost HTPC. Intel UHD iGPU in 12th and 13th gen supports HDMI 2.1, but in specs it is always listed as 4K 60 Hz and I do not know if Intel has a good hardware deinterlacer which is frame adaptive. If anyone has a 12th or 13 gen cpu from intel, please let me know, you colud do a small test for me. (I am only interested in HDMI, not Displayport for HTPC) AMD Ryzen 5 7600 and AMD Ryzen 5 7600X cheapest option

15th February 2023, 21:25	#3009 \| Link
Grimsdyke Registered User Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Hannover, Germany Posts: 292	I wait for AMD's 6700G to see how it performs. And, of course, the price should reasonable too. __________________ MPC-BE feature wishlist: 1) DiscID 2) Two independent volume control sliders in the UI when using dual-audio-out.

15th February 2023, 22:42	#3010 \| Link
apophis906 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 26	I thought this would be the best place to ask about this issue. So I will randomly have glitches with my 4K playback if using hardware decoding. This is with my own re-encodes so far. This has happened when I had an older i5 board and an evga 1060 6g SC. I upgraded the board and CPU to a 3700x and still had the same issues. I just changed the card out for a evga 2060 KO ultra and it too shows the glitches. These glitches will happen at the same spot when they do happen and changing the encode settings any will usually make it not happen in that movie in that spot again. The other solution I figured out was to find the exact frame that it happened and use a QP file to put an I frame at that spot and it would not happen. So far my solution for the past few months has been to just use software decode since the 3700x has no trouble doing it. The problem is that I have two HTPC's and the second one would randomly show similar glitches but not be repeatable. So stopping the movie and starting it over and it would not have the glitch at that spot again. Unlike with hardware decoding where it always did it. My question is does anyone else have similar glitches with hardware decoding or any idea why I have these glitches. Especially since I have changed the motherboard and CPU as well as video card and still get them. Also the second HTPC has had its OS clean installed again. This happened on 385.28 and the ones I would test all the way up to 517.48 that I am using now. While using software decoding is so far the easiest solution. My problem was the second HTPC that would show the glitches as well as have playback crashes at times. That is the main reason for the upgrade from the 1060 to 2060. This is a pic of the glitch happening and this happens on both HTPC with any version of hardware decoding active.

18th February 2023, 12:11	#3012 \| Link
Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,667	No info yet

18th February 2023, 12:27	#3013 \| Link
ashlar42 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 656	Does anybody know what was the last version of Nvidia drivers capable of saving EDID when there are less than 2 bytes available in a block? For reference: https://www.monitortests.com/forum/T...14402#pid14402 __________________ LG 77C1 - Denon AVC-X3800H - Windows 10 Pro 22H2 - Kodi DSPlayer (LAV Filters, xySubFilter, madVR, Sanear) - RTX 4070 - Ryzen 5 3600 - 16GB RAM

18th February 2023, 12:48	#3014 \| Link
Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,667	How can I test?

19th February 2023, 10:44	#3016 \| Link
Sunspark Registered User Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 473	@Klaus1189 Not the 11-12th gen you wanted, this test you requested is actually with 5th gen (Broadwell). I can state the results however. Using DXVA2 hardware decoding, there are no visible lines on the snooker player's shirt. If I use quicksync HW decoding, software chroma scaling and leave de-interlacing turned off I can see the lines, so this is evidence to me that the hardware decoder handles it automatically. This isn't really a surprise to me, Intel has always been good at video playback, it doesn't have the chroma error in DXVA that AMD and Nvidia had either. Update: Also, Quicksync decoding and turning the adaptive HW deinterlacing option in LAV video decoder on/off also works which is nice too, because that means you can pick and choose which chroma and image scaling algos you want to use in MadVR but the HW will do the deinterlacing instead of doing it in software in MadVR or being required to use DXVA chroma/image scaling if you're using MPCVR (though you could still use the MPCVR shaders for scaling w/ quicksync decoding and hw deinterlacing if using LAV). Hope this helps. Last edited by Sunspark; 19th February 2023 at 11:19.

19th February 2023, 11:24	#3017 \| Link
Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,667	Are the characters above "WWW.D88.COM" also not flickering? What CPU do you test exactly?

19th February 2023, 11:44	#3018 \| Link
Sunspark Registered User Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 473	The Chinese characters aren't flickering, no. It does look subtly better using the Quicksync decoding HW deinterlacing than with the DXVA deinterlacing though the difference is quite minimal (and might be erased if one used the MPC decoder instead of LAV, who knows?). The CPU is an Intel Core i5 5250U. I also have a Steam Deck which uses a custom AMD RDNA2 APU but I have not yet tested it with video playback. Don't really need to, considering the Intel seems fine to use. I generally just do the chroma upscaling in software, and image scaling using the monitor's built-in scaler.

19th February 2023, 17:56	#3019 \| Link
zealvix Registered User Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 1	Hi, "Color levels (full 0-255 vs. limited 16-235) are broken. That means limited 16-235 which is the standard range for videos are interpreted as 0-255 and this leads to elevated blacks and dimm whites." 1. is the 7XXX series of radeon cards still affected by above bug? 2. Is the integrated RDNA2 GPUin mobile CPUs affected as well? 3. Does the version of madvr (0.92.17 or beta) make a difference in term of drivers related bugs? Thanks.

19th February 2023, 19:09	#3020 \| Link
Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,667	If you use madVR this bug is circumvented. So you will not see it. But it is in EVR and EVR custom presenter and also in MPC Video Renderer but only when using D3D9, that means if you check D3D11 in options you are fine.