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Old 6th August 2015, 10:55   #2121  |  Link
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Did some testing on power usage on DXVA scaling by looping a 4Mbit/s 720p h264 video upscaled to 1080p for a few hours and logging the battery level. Also tested different decoding methods (in LAV).

CPU: i5-4200U. Laptop power usage in Watts.
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native  copy-back  software
 5.3     5.5        5.5     -  EVR (DXVA scaling)
 5.1                        -  EVR-CP (bilinear)
 6.3                        -  EVR-CP (bicubic)
 5.9     6.1        6.2     -  madVR (DXVA scaling, trade quality for perf.)
 5.9                        -  madVR (bilinear, trade quality for perf.)
 2.7                        -  idle
So apparently, EVR-CP manages the lowest power consumption, but only with bilinear which has no chance against Intel's DXVA scaling quality-wise. Do you think bilinear could be more power friendly than Intel's hardware scaler, or can EVR-CP actually be more efficient than regular EVR? Because madVR's bilinear uses about the same amount of power as its DXVA scaling, perhaps it would be the same if DXVA scaling was added to EVR-CP?

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Old 7th August 2015, 19:13   #2122  |  Link
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Not sure if it was asked, Ive been using mpc-hc internal sub renderer for out of video frame sub (by using screen alignment and margin and untick relative to video frame). Sometime I have 2 line'd subs, which I cant vertically center in the black space if I put setting(bottom margins ) for 1 line'd sub, vice versa. Any workaround to display both 1 line and 2 line'd subtitle vertically center in black space?
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Old 9th August 2015, 22:57   #2123  |  Link
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Latest nightly seems to have fixed the windows issue on W10.
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Old 10th August 2015, 04:43   #2124  |  Link
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I just found a new issue, though it is kind of moot. If I move my cursor into the red area (or the taskbar), volume control via mouse wheel will stop working. I think this might be a W10 issue because I don't remember this happening before upgrading from 8.1.

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Old 10th August 2015, 06:46   #2125  |  Link
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What huhn said, only keep PCM enabled because LAV will output that.

As for AC3filter settings for great night mode:
DRC 35 (type it in because slider only allows to 20).
"Auto gain control" in the mixer tab should always be On to prevent clipping (one pass Off), because sometimes DRC overshoots 0.0db when set too high values.

You can try DRC on 100 just to get an idea how it works (not practical).
And to hear the effect of AGC, turn it on and off.
You even have control of the Attack and Release times in the System tab, which I keep at default because they behave nice and fast.

With the setting suggested (35), even the most dynamic movies like LOTR are pleasing to listen at night or with neighbors.
I didn't touch the volume once throughout The Two Towers which is EXTREMELY dynamic.


As for the mixer,
When downmixing to stereo (I have a stereo setup), Auto Matrix and Normalize matrix should always be on, two others off.
Voice 0, Surround -3 (like 0.71 in LAV), LFE -200 (enter manually).
This will behave like LAV Stereo downmix and in accordance with Dolby specs.

One more thing, Format should be PCM Float.
Is it possible to use AC3 filter in conjunction with ReClock, or as an audio processor in JRiver Media Center?
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Old 10th August 2015, 18:00   #2126  |  Link
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I just found a new issue, though it is kind of moot. If I move my cursor into the red area (or the taskbar), volume control via mouse wheel will stop working. I think this might be a W10 issue because I don't remember this happening before upgrading from 8.1.
It also works when you hover volume, but it will move in the opposite way.
It has something to do with W10, they changed mousewheel behaviour (now it scrolls windows that you hover, not the active one).

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Old 12th August 2015, 12:19   #2127  |  Link
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sending standard window messages to madVR through WebUI

I have asked similar question in the madVR thread, but didn't got an answer, but maybe this is the right place to ask.

So, I'm using (more than that I have modded it to add 2 more buttons for subtitle delays, and small other mods ) Remoti.co on Android to remote control mpc-hc.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...emote&hl=en_GB
It communicates generally through the provided WebUI and with the command numbers.

Can I send standard window messages (like WM_COMMAND) to MadVR through MPC_HC through it's webinterface?
I'd like to change the input level (CRTL+SHIFT+ALT+I) remotely.
I tried to capture the hotkeys (CTRL+J, CRTL+SHIFT+ALT+I , etc) in WindowDetective , but mpc-hc doesn't have a clue about them.

I took a quick look in the mpc-hc source (WebServer.cpp and WebClientSocket.cpp), and the implementation would be easy IF mpc-hc could talk to madVR somehow.

Any idea how to do this?
Thank You and for your continous work!
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Why not talk to madVR directly?
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Why not talk to madVR directly?
errr... how?
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Old 12th August 2015, 18:15   #2130  |  Link
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New ASIO Plugin for MPC-HC x64

Hello folks,
great news! Today I got news from Surodev. They sends me a link for the new Surodev ASIO Plugin for mpc-hc x64!

Please run register.bat in a command shell as an administrator to properly use the renderer.

DOWNLOAD: http://surodev.com/downloads/AsioRendererx64.zip

It works fine with my Asus Xonar essence!

If you like it too, please donate a little for the project on surodev Website!

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Quick questions, how do I config MPC-HC to use ASIO/WASAPI without Reclock ?

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For ASIO you need Asio drivers. Xonar Cards for example have ASIO drivers. Then you install the surodev Asio plugin as discribed and then you can select it in the mpc-hc options.






In my ears Asio has the best audio quality.


For WASAPI Im not 100% shure, but I believe to have read you should use the intern MPC-HC decoder which works with WASAPI.
Maybe someone else would know this better.

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Quick questions, how do I config MPC-HC to use ASIO/WASAPI without Reclock ?
New internal audio renderer has WASAPI Exclusive support. You can find it in nightly build.
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In my ears Asio has the best audio quality.
Rather in your mind.

I bet you wouldn't know any difference as long as you don't know the renderer.

Like listening to gold-plated digital cables with oxygen-free copper. Bust be better than any standard digital cable.

The advantage of ASIO is usually to have a small granularity, so a low latency when changing audio parameters. Interesting for musicians. Less important for sequentially listening.
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For ASIO you need Asio drivers. Xonar Cards for example have ASIO drivers. Then you install the surodev Asio plugin as discribed and then you can select it in the mpc-hc options.






In my ears Asio has the best audio quality.


For WASAPI Im not 100% shure, but I believe to have read you should use the intern MPC-HC decoder which works with WASAPI.
Maybe someone else would know this better.
Possible to add VST?
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Old 12th August 2015, 23:02   #2136  |  Link
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when you lower the volume in mpc hc, what exactly is lowering the volume? the audio renderer?
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New internal audio renderer has WASAPI Exclusive support. You can find it in nightly build.
That's weird, I'm using Nightly 64 bit build, version 1.7.9.137 . Don't see it.
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It's built in. Audio Renderer under Internal filters.
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It's built in. Audio Renderer under Internal filters.
Yea, just read the changelog. Was looking for Wasapi renderer instead. I'm so dumb
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I've deleted the "CrashReporter" folder from my MPC-HC installation as having it constantly open my browser without permission was starting to become a little annoying, even after selecting cancel in the "checking for solution" window that likes to pop up in the way.
Wanted to report that, too. Pressing "Cancel" immediately after a crash during information collection will still allow a report to be sucessfully uploaded. That's not what I consider cancelling.
Or at least change your privacy statement to clarify that in some cases data will be sent without the users consent.
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