Media Player Classic - BE Win32/x64 - Page 270

beter · 27th May 2018, 07:35

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Originally Posted by v0lt

@beter
I fixed the freeze in r3672.

Thank you very much

mclingo · 30th May 2018, 17:13

is anyone else finding MPC-BE taking ages to start playing movie, even on a fresh install, its even worse when playing a movie over and RDP connection, VLC, MPC-HC and Windows 10 movies and TV all start the movie in a timely fashion where MPC can sometimes take 30 seconds to start the movie on RDP, 10-20 locally on my PC.

Once i've played it one locally however it tend to then by much quicker, however RDP it takes ages every time.

I've ask this before and didnt get a really satisfactory answers, or nothing suggested made any difference, all settings are default.

anyone any ideas before i ditch BE?

Klaus1189 · 30th May 2018, 17:22

Everything is fine here on three computers, one with i7 and Intel HD, one with i7 4930k with AMD Radeon and one with an Nvidia card. Let's find out whats wrong:
1.) What OS do you use? What version? Just like 1709 or 1803 of Windows 10.
2.) What exact version of MPC-BE do you use? latest Nightly, latest beta, latest stable, ...
3.) Do you use any external stuff like LAV Filters and madvr, ... What version of them?
4.) Do you use latest driver of your GPU?
5.) Do you have another computer for testing?
6.) Did you try to reboot the computer and only start MPC-BE, no other program. Does it then also take too much time to load files?

mclingo · 30th May 2018, 17:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klaus1189

Everything is fine here on three computers, one with i7 and Intel HD, one with i7 4930k with AMD Radeon and one with an Nvidia card. Let's find out whats wrong:
1.) What OS do you use? What version? Just like 1709 or 1803 of Windows 10.
2.) What exact version of MPC-BE do you use? latest Nightly, latest beta, latest stable, ...
3.) Do you use any external stuff like LAV Filters and madvr, ... What version of them?
4.) Do you use latest driver of your GPU?
5.) Do you have another computer for testing?
6.) Did you try to reboot the computer and only start MPC-BE, no other program. Does it then also take too much time to load files?

Thanks for your response.

win 10 creators

tried latest and several older versions, had this problem for months if not longer

i'm using stock settings, tried using external filters makes no difference

has been happening for ages, through various different GPU drivers versions.

Tried all sorts, fresh boot only loading BE has same issues, nothing seems to resolve this.

I'm not really sure where to start to be honest, a rebuild is out of the question though, it would take me days to do that.

Was hoping someone would know what this was with it just being BE and no other player,

Klaus1189 · 30th May 2018, 18:29

Hi,
I have further qestions, then maybe I, but for sure others can help:
1.) Windows 10 1703 and 1709 both are creators, which one?
2.) What exact GPU chip?
3.) What external filters did you try? precise like LAV Filters 0.71.0-35
4.) Not a complete rebuild needed, only another computer to test with, maybe at a friend, sister, brother, ... No high end needed.
5.) Be sure to distinguish between directshow based players like MPC-BE and players like VLC media player, I don't know how these are colled, but these are not directshow based ;-), they use their own built in codecs and can't load external ones.

mclingo · 30th May 2018, 20:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klaus1189

Hi,
I have further qestions, then maybe I, but for sure others can help:
1.) Windows 10 1703 and 1709 both are creators, which one?
2.) What exact GPU chip?
3.) What external filters did you try? precise like LAV Filters 0.71.0-35
4.) Not a complete rebuild needed, only another computer to test with, maybe at a friend, sister, brother, ... No high end needed.
5.) Be sure to distinguish between directshow based players like MPC-BE and players like VLC media player, I don't know how these are colled, but these are not directshow based ;-), they use their own built in codecs and can't load external ones.

Hi, 1709, ATI RX 460. I tried all four LAV filters, aud/vid/spliters. Having had this for a long time i've also gone through several different LAV filter versions, non have made any difference.

i'll have a look on my audio DAW machine, see if I can reproduce it there.

cheers

Klaus1189 · 31st May 2018, 07:25

@v0lt:
Are the changes I made in r3647 visible in GUI somewhere already to check the length of string so it fits?
I am updating translation file based on r3681, but I think Surround level is missing in translation file r3681, I only can find Center level.

v0lt · 31st May 2018, 15:51

@Klaus1189
I did not translate "Surround level", because it was not done and there is no clarity for what it might be needed.

Klaus1189 · 31st May 2018, 16:07

OK, I see, are the changes I made in r3647 visible in GUI somewhere?

updated german translation based on r3684

v0lt · 1st June 2018, 06:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klaus1189

OK, I see, are the changes I made in r3647 visible in GUI somewhere?

Play->Filters->MPC Audio Renderer->Properties->Status

German translation was updated in r3386, 3687.

galocza · 1st June 2018, 21:14

hi,

ive used mpc-be on my desktop pc for years but on vacation i tried to play some 720p hevc videos with it on my netbook and they stuttered (which is ok) and audio got delayed (which is not). its not a genius:
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bobcat...20E2-1800.html

i also tried almost a dozen players, still mpc was the best so i thought if i had to play around with settings i rather do it with the player i know.
could you please recommend me some (resource-wise) minimal settings for mpc-be? or should i give it up?

thank you,
g

ryrynz · 2nd June 2018, 02:01

I think you'll find you're overtaxing your CPU, check task manager and see. If so, it's time for an upgrade or just avoid HEVC.

galocza · 2nd June 2018, 12:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryrynz

I think you'll find you're overtaxing your CPU, check task manager and see. If so, it's time for an upgrade or just avoid HEVC.

thanks for your reply, i KNOW im overtaxing the cpu, thats why i asked for hints to maybe lessen the burden 8)

ryrynz · 2nd June 2018, 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by galocza

thanks for your reply, i KNOW im overtaxing the cpu, thats why i asked for hints to maybe lessen the burden 8)

Not gonna happen enough to make a difference. Avoid or upgrade are your only real two options.

lvqcl · 2nd June 2018, 13:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by galocza

thanks for your reply, i KNOW im overtaxing the cpu, thats why i asked for hints to maybe lessen the burden 8)

Do you use 32-bit or 64-bit player? IIRC 64-bit is noticeably faster in HEVC decoding.

Klaus1189 · 3rd June 2018, 19:08

I think it is worth to try external lav filters, maybe these require less decoding power, but don't expect miracles since AMD E2-1800 is six year old low end.

Midzuki · 3rd June 2018, 21:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by galocza

ive used mpc-be on my desktop pc for years but on vacation i tried to play some 720p hevc videos with it on my netbook and they stuttered (which is ok) and audio got delayed (which is not). its not a genius:
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bobcat...20E2-1800.html

i also tried almost a dozen players, still mpc was the best so i thought if i had to play around with settings i rather do it with the player i know.
could you please recommend me some (resource-wise) minimal settings for mpc-be? or should i give it up?

You may try the 32-bit Strongene Lentoid decoder, OR a 64-bit edition of MPlayer (without a fancy GUI, because GUIs are resource hogs). If even then you don't get smooth playback of 720p HEVC on your netbook, then give up and get a better machine.

galocza · 4th June 2018, 09:56

thank you all for your responses, i appreciate and will try them.
g

stefanelli73 · 5th June 2018, 10:55

Hi, I have noticed for some time a problem of playing my blu ray/uhd 1: 1 files, in the sense that if I go back and forth with a film the image freezes and jumps, while the audio continues to go normally, so I'm forced to stop the film and play it, but this does not happen with mkv....some solution?

Aleksoid1978 · 5th June 2018, 12:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by stefanelli73

Hi, I have noticed for some time a problem of playing my blu ray/uhd 1: 1 files, in the sense that if I go back and forth with a film the image freezes and jumps, while the audio continues to go normally, so I'm forced to stop the film and play it, but this does not happen with mkv....some solution?

Upload file(s) for test.

31st May 2018, 15:51	#5388 \| Link
v0lt Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,970	@Klaus1189 I did not translate "Surround level", because it was not done and there is no clarity for what it might be needed. __________________ MPC-BE 1.7.0 and Nightly builds \| VideoRenderer \| ImageSource \| ScriptSource \| BassAudioSource

30th May 2018, 17:13	#5382 \| Link
mclingo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,348	is anyone else finding MPC-BE taking ages to start playing movie, even on a fresh install, its even worse when playing a movie over and RDP connection, VLC, MPC-HC and Windows 10 movies and TV all start the movie in a timely fashion where MPC can sometimes take 30 seconds to start the movie on RDP, 10-20 locally on my PC. Once i've played it one locally however it tend to then by much quicker, however RDP it takes ages every time. I've ask this before and didnt get a really satisfactory answers, or nothing suggested made any difference, all settings are default. anyone any ideas before i ditch BE?

30th May 2018, 17:22	#5383 \| Link
Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,667	Everything is fine here on three computers, one with i7 and Intel HD, one with i7 4930k with AMD Radeon and one with an Nvidia card. Let's find out whats wrong: 1.) What OS do you use? What version? Just like 1709 or 1803 of Windows 10. 2.) What exact version of MPC-BE do you use? latest Nightly, latest beta, latest stable, ... 3.) Do you use any external stuff like LAV Filters and madvr, ... What version of them? 4.) Do you use latest driver of your GPU? 5.) Do you have another computer for testing? 6.) Did you try to reboot the computer and only start MPC-BE, no other program. Does it then also take too much time to load files?

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Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,667	Hi, I have further qestions, then maybe I, but for sure others can help: 1.) Windows 10 1703 and 1709 both are creators, which one? 2.) What exact GPU chip? 3.) What external filters did you try? precise like LAV Filters 0.71.0-35 4.) Not a complete rebuild needed, only another computer to test with, maybe at a friend, sister, brother, ... No high end needed. 5.) Be sure to distinguish between directshow based players like MPC-BE and players like VLC media player, I don't know how these are colled, but these are not directshow based ;-), they use their own built in codecs and can't load external ones.

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Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,667	@v0lt: Are the changes I made in r3647 visible in GUI somewhere already to check the length of string so it fits? I am updating translation file based on r3681, but I think Surround level is missing in translation file r3681, I only can find Center level.

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Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,667	OK, I see, are the changes I made in r3647 visible in GUI somewhere? updated german translation based on r3684

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galocza Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hungary Posts: 41	hi, ive used mpc-be on my desktop pc for years but on vacation i tried to play some 720p hevc videos with it on my netbook and they stuttered (which is ok) and audio got delayed (which is not). its not a genius: http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bobcat...20E2-1800.html i also tried almost a dozen players, still mpc was the best so i thought if i had to play around with settings i rather do it with the player i know. could you please recommend me some (resource-wise) minimal settings for mpc-be? or should i give it up? thank you, g

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ryrynz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,650	I think you'll find you're overtaxing your CPU, check task manager and see. If so, it's time for an upgrade or just avoid HEVC.

3rd June 2018, 19:08	#5396 \| Link
Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,667	I think it is worth to try external lav filters, maybe these require less decoding power, but don't expect miracles since AMD E2-1800 is six year old low end.

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galocza Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hungary Posts: 41	thank you all for your responses, i appreciate and will try them. g

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stefanelli73 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 52	Hi, I have noticed for some time a problem of playing my blu ray/uhd 1: 1 files, in the sense that if I go back and forth with a film the image freezes and jumps, while the audio continues to go normally, so I'm forced to stop the film and play it, but this does not happen with mkv....some solution?