SupRip Support Thread

[Anacletus]

Version 1.12 is working flawlessy now for me also! Keep up the good work!!

[nautilus7]

Originally Posted by Taktaal

For me that opens in 1.10, 1.11 and 1.12 correctly. The older versions sometimes don't find all letters but it never crashes. Does it still crash for you with 1.12?

Well, something weird happens here.

I still can't open the file as with previous versions. I get this error:

System.Exception: Parameter is not valid.

   at System.Drawing.Bitmap..ctor(Int32 width, Int32 height, PixelFormat format)
   at SupRip.SubtitleFile.ConvertHdSup(FileStream fs, SupData data)
   at SupRip.SubtitleFile.GetSubtitleImage(Int32 n)
   at SupRip.MainForm.LoadSubtitleImage(Int32 number)
   at SupRip.MainForm.LoadSubtitleImage(Int32 number)
   at SupRip.MainForm.LoadSubtitleFile(String fileName)
   at SupRip.MainForm.loadButton_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.1433 (REDBITS.050727-1400)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
SupRip
    Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 1.0.0.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Downloads/SupRip.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.1433 (REDBITS.050727-1400)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.1433 (REDBITS.050727-1400)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.1433 (REDBITS.050727-1400)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
----------------------------------------

In addition, other subtitles continue to have missing letters (first and last).

I'm sure i have 1.12, but is it possible to add the version number somewhere on the program?

Thanks.

[quantum]

Originally Posted by nautilus7

Well, something weird happens here.

I still can't open the file as with previous versions. I get this error:

I download your greek sup and it opens fine for me. I stepped through the first 200 and had no crashes.

[nautilus7]

I don't know... Can you send me your v1.12?

[ukendt]

I'm considering to make this thread sticky but I want some comments before I do it. Please state freely...

[nautilus7]

Why not? Every app needs it's own thread.

Is it possible to add a 1st post from the developer, so he can post new versions?

[Anacletus]

Originally Posted by ukendt

I'm considering to make this thread sticky but I want some comments before I do it. Please state freely...

I vote for the sticky, since this is (guessing here) the most used (almost painless i'd say) app to rip blu-ray subs nowadays

[azad]

@Taktaal
Would it be possible to let SupRip export just the forced subs into a whole new .sup file?

[Taktaal]

yay sticky!

Originally Posted by azad

@Taktaal
Would it be possible to let SupRip export just the forced subs into a whole new .sup file?

I tried that but it's a lot harder writing to a proprietary format than reading from it. There's a lot of bytes that I don't know what they do and can safely ignore when decoding, but if they're just set to a random guessed value while encoding, they tend to crash the players that are written to the official Sony spec.

[hubblec4]

hi

the new version 1.12 crash at me when i use the auto-OCR button. with version 1.01 works fine.

hubble

[nautilus7]

Join the club!

And if you look more carefully, you 'll see missing letters/characters in the end/beginning of italic lines.

But none seems to care.

[menlvd]

last line in the sup look like this, ending by 0
1043
02:00:43,277 --> 00:00:00,000
Line 1043

[quantum]

For Taktaal regarding sub/idx:

Good overview of the vobsub sub/idx format:
http://trac.annodex.net/wiki/VOBSub

Doom9 guide for ripping from DVD to sub/idx:
http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/dvobsub.htm

Misc:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=99815

Sourceforge links for vobsub:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...kage_id=246121
http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...group_id=82303

Manusse's (SubtitleCreator author) explanation of Standard Def subtitle format:
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?...&postcount=195

A comment by Manusse on another forum:
"VobSub format (sub/idx) is a SD format. The only way to convert a HD-DVD subtitle file to VobSub is using SubtitleCreator. It will downsample it to SD resolution and decrease its number of colors to 4 and allow to export it as sub/idx. However it can't currently open Blu-Ray Sup files."

My understanding of sub/idx:
The standard definition (SD) sub/idx is a graphical subtitle format viewable on PC's using directvobsub. Zoom player, Media Player Classic, VLC, and maybe others can display subtitles in this format, even when playing HD files such as those demuxed from Bluray.
Pros: Subs are graphical, can display any character, and are not subject to OCR errors. Subs can be displayed anywhere on screen.
Cons: Subs are SD which looks somewhat blocky on a HD screen.
Challenge: The HD subs must be downconverted from HD sup to SD sub/idx format.

Some hardware players support the SD sub/idx format when playing HD files.
- DVICO TVIX HD M-6500A - supported
- Popcorn Hour A-110 - supposedly will be supported in a future firmware

SubtitleCreator can convert HD-DVD SUP files to SD sub/idx. Maybe Taktaal is willing to do the same thing with Suprip, and include Bluray support.

[nautilus7]

Originally Posted by menlvd

last line in the sup look like this, ending by 0
1043
02:00:43,277 --> 00:00:00,000
Line 1043

Also noticed this some time ago. Another Suprip bug...

[Taktaal]

The problem with recognizing the first character in italic lines and the one with the 0 end time on the last subtitle will be fixed in the next version. I'm currently working on the sub/idx stuff and will release it when that's done.

[rica]

Thx in advance.

[quantum]

Originally Posted by Taktaal

... I'm currently working on the sub/idx stuff and will release it when that's done.

I just noticed this on the Popcorn Hour beta firmware thread update for Dec 26:
IDX/SUB supported (first implementation, only external IDX/SUB)

Once this is released, there will be two (that I'm aware) hardware players supporting sub/idx. I have the Popcorn Hour, so I'll be glad to test

[turbojet]

quantum, while it takes a few extra steps you can get vobsub from bluray subs by using supread to convert bluray to hd-dvd and then into subtitlecreator. I agree it would be nice if suprip could support it with one click.

[quantum]

Originally Posted by turbojet

quantum, while it takes a few extra steps you can get vobsub from bluray subs by using supread to convert bluray to hd-dvd and then into subtitlecreator. I agree it would be nice if suprip could support it with one click.

I have tried this path a few times. I got it to "sort of" work once. The other two times it failed either in supread or in subtitlecreator. The one time it did work, there were glitches in the subs, such that one of them would stay on until I switched subs off in the player.

However, seeing this technique in action is what got me interested in sub/idx in the first place But I found the supread/subtitlecreator path to be awkward, slow, and sometimes would not work at all. But I agree that it is a path that is workable, and maybe others could have better luck with it than I had.

With that said, Suprip already supports HD DVD and Blu-ray sups, and Taktaal has been great in tweaking it to support the different variations that have been popping up. If he can get reliable sub/idx output, then it would be close to a one-click answer, maybe even command line we can put in a batch file

[saint-francis]

Originally Posted by quantum

The one time it did work, there were glitches in the subs, such that one of them would stay on until I switched subs off in the player.

I too have noticed this, but only once. The supread/subtitlecreator method has worked for me with all but 3 disks. I think the issue was with supread since Taktaal needed to spruce up suprip to make the original sup work with it.