EclCCE: Adds ECL support to CCE 2.66/2.67 trial - Page 5

RB · 9th April 2003, 07:36

Post this in the DVD2SVCD Basic Topics forum. This is a problem with DVD2SVCD, not EclCCE.

halcyon · 14th April 2003, 04:26

I've only just noticed that eclCCE is here to provide DVD2SVCD support for CCE 2.66 Trial, so I downloaded eclCCE and went through the installation and Usage portions of the eclCCE pdf. I must be missing something though, because every time DVD2SVCD gets to encoding, CCE says

Limitation of Trial Version
Can't save ECL file.

and in the DVD2SVCD log

Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
Error cannot find CCE project file.

I've got the CCE path pointing to eclCCE.exe, which is in the same dir as CCE 2.66.01.04 and eclCCE.dll, and the eclCCE.ini is set for cctspt.exe. It does the same thing if I run just eclCCE and load the AviSynth_Script_file.avs DVD2SVCD created. I'm using Keep Interlaced and an Interlaced Source CCE template made while reading the eclCCE pdf. The DVD2SVCD log file also says it has to perform IVTC based on the DVD2AVI project file. Any idea?

-=<halcyon>=-

RB · 14th April 2003, 08:13

CCE 2.66.01.04 is not supported by the ECL functionality in EclCCE, this is in the readme. You need to use 2.66.01.07 at least. See http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...r=2#post290438 for an unsupported workaround.

halcyon · 14th April 2003, 12:51

Thanks for the speedy reply.

-=<halcyon>=-

TKSoft2000 · 15th April 2003, 11:07

EclCCE doesn't give CCE tthe correct task priority!

I'm using this nice tool together with DVD2SVCD where I have choosen the priority ILDE.
EclCCE gets this priority correct, but CCE always runns as normal!

EclCCE should check which priority itself has and take this priority also for CCE.

For DVD2SVCD it is more difficut to implement this that it is for you because the autor can get the correct handle of EclCCE by using ShellExecute, but if he wants to reach CCE behind your program he needs to search the correct CCE window! If the user has multiple instances of CCE running at the same time this is much to difficult so you should implement this small feature in your program.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK & HELP!

Regards
TKS

RB · 15th April 2003, 11:44

Are you running Windows 9x/ME? It works like you want it to in Windows NT/2000/XP. Anyway, the upcoming v1.4 already has an option to specify the CCE task priority.

TKSoft2000 · 15th April 2003, 11:53

@RB
I'm using EclCCE 1.3, CCE 2.67.00.09, DVD2SVCD 1.1.3b2 unter Win2K.

Quote:

Anyway, the upcoming v1.4 already has an option to specify the CCE task priority.

If you mean this option over the ini file - why don't you just check for the priority of EclCCE? This would be much easyer for other programmers tho implement!

Regards
TKS

RB · 15th April 2003, 12:18

Strange. On my system (XP and 2000), when EclCCE is run with idle process priority either via the "Start" command or DVD2SVCD, then cctspt.exe runs with that same priority (idle). Did you actually go into task manager and check this? This is also what the MS docs say. That is, a process running with idle or normal priority inherits it's priority to child processes.

TKSoft2000 · 15th April 2003, 12:33

Quote:

Did you actually go into task manager and check this?

Yes, there I have seen that it was running with normal priority...

Quote:

That is, a process running with idle or normal priority inherits it's priority to child processes.

I'll check it today again...

Regards
TKS

RB · 16th April 2003, 13:13

New version 1.4 is out. Here are the changes:

Code:

16/04/2003 v1.4

	- Added option to shut down system after encoding
	- Added EclCCE settings dialog along with the ability to
          specify the CCE process priority
	- Added a manifest file for CCE to the distribution. Copy
          cctspt.exe.manifest to the CCE installation directory to
          apply Windows XP visual styles.
	- Fixed: CCE window title was set incorrectly when ECL file
                 name contained a dash
	- Fixed: in some cases Encoding did not start when clicking
                 Yes in the "Save changes....?" prompt and then
                 canceling the Save dialog.
	- Fixed: in some cases you were not prompted to save changes
                 after modifying the Bitrate Tweak settings.
	- Fixed: problem with hooking into CCE when EclCCE.exe was
                 run with process priorities above "Normal".

daxab · 25th April 2003, 08:00

@RB

Great stuff, really slick.

I wanted to request saving of the 3:2 pulldown detection settings. You mention earlier in the thread that you might work on that if there is demand...so I wanted to speak up.

(My dream is to write a program that would take a DVD2AVI project and use the field flags in it to instruct CCE exactly how to encode a hybrid source. The hope is that this would allow one to, with CCE, create an exact copy of a hybrid source -- something currently possible with DVD2One and the like, but at the cost of image quality.)

RB · 25th April 2003, 11:03

Custom technology released CCE 2.67.00.10 (still a beta version), so here is a new EclCCE version supporting it.

Code:

25/04/2003 v1.4a

	- Added support for CCE 2.67.00.10
	- Added ability to minimize CCE to the system tray during encoding

RB · 25th April 2003, 11:37

Quote:

Originally posted by daxab
I wanted to request saving of the 3:2 pulldown detection settings. You mention earlier in the thread that you might work on that if there is demand...so I wanted to speak up.

Well, there are so many buttons and settings in the 3:2 Pulldown dialog that it makes my hair hurt

It might be nothing more than a very tedious task to gather all the settings and read/write them from/to the ECL, problem is it will likely take a lot of time to develop and debug and right now I'm really short of time. It would help greatly though to have an ECL with 3:2 pulldown settings saved from a full CCE version. Maybe you could look around to see if you can get your hands on such an ECL?

Anyway, I'll start looking into it in the near future, can't promise anything yet, sorry.

daxab · 25th April 2003, 19:54

Thanks, I understand. That dialog is a nightmare. I think you can ignore all the "Phase calculators" buttons though. And on the left, there is a duplicate set of 10 buttons that can be ignored (A:1 2 B:1 2 3 C:1 2 D:1 2 3) -- these do the same thing as the (1 2) / (1 2 3 4 5) buttons above them. (Or you could ignore the (1 2) and (1 2 3 4 5) buttons, but I'm guessing you'd rather ignore 10 buttons than 7

).

I'll look for an ECL with 3:2 pulldown detection settings -- probably difficult to locate, though.

In any case, great app.

blixi · 26th April 2003, 08:46

Hi!

What a pitty. I tried your EclCCE to be able to load an ecl from a script. But its seems that wine does not like it

. It starts correctly up cce (2.5) but does not load the ecl.

I guess you wont mess with such things. Anyway the idea is great.

Greets

blixi

RB · 26th April 2003, 13:07

Sorry, can't do anything about this. Looks like Wine is not correctly or not at all supporting a technique called 'Windows Hooks'.

blixi · 26th April 2003, 13:37

Yes it seems so.

fixme

rocess:CreateProcessA (C:\Programme\CCE-SP-trial\cctsp.exe,...): NORMAL_PRIORITY_CLASS ignored

As I have seen now.

But thanks for the reply and sorry for bother you

DDogg · 27th April 2003, 14:52

RB, this is such a sweet piece of work! For nearly three years I have had to stare at CCE, "in my face". So, I particularly like the new minimize ability.

RB · 27th April 2003, 16:32

You are welcome

RB · 2nd May 2003, 12:15

EclCCE v1.4b with minor fixes is out.

Code:

02/05/2003 v1.4b

	- Fixed: Advanced VBR Settings dialog was visible during automated
                 bitrate tweaking even though CCE was minimized to tray
	- Fixed: Shutdown feature didn't work when using bitrate tweaking

9th April 2003, 07:36	#81 \| Link
RB Retired Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,349	Post this in the DVD2SVCD Basic Topics forum. This is a problem with DVD2SVCD, not EclCCE. __________________ EclCCE CCE SP Plugin \| SceneImport Scenarist Plugin

14th April 2003, 08:13	#83 \| Link
RB Retired Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,349	CCE 2.66.01.04 is not supported by the ECL functionality in EclCCE, this is in the readme. You need to use 2.66.01.07 at least. See http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...r=2#post290438 for an unsupported workaround. __________________ EclCCE CCE SP Plugin \| SceneImport Scenarist Plugin

15th April 2003, 11:44	#86 \| Link
RB Retired Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,349	Are you running Windows 9x/ME? It works like you want it to in Windows NT/2000/XP. Anyway, the upcoming v1.4 already has an option to specify the CCE task priority. __________________ EclCCE CCE SP Plugin \| SceneImport Scenarist Plugin

15th April 2003, 12:18	#88 \| Link
RB Retired Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,349	Strange. On my system (XP and 2000), when EclCCE is run with idle process priority either via the "Start" command or DVD2SVCD, then cctspt.exe runs with that same priority (idle). Did you actually go into task manager and check this? This is also what the MS docs say. That is, a process running with idle or normal priority inherits it's priority to child processes. __________________ EclCCE CCE SP Plugin \| SceneImport Scenarist Plugin

25th April 2003, 11:03	#92 \| Link
RB Retired Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,349	Custom technology released CCE 2.67.00.10 (still a beta version), so here is a new EclCCE version supporting it. Code: 25/04/2003 v1.4a - Added support for CCE 2.67.00.10 - Added ability to minimize CCE to the system tray during encoding __________________ EclCCE CCE SP Plugin \| SceneImport Scenarist Plugin

14th April 2003, 04:26	#82 \| Link
halcyon Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Mpls, MN, USA Posts: 32	I've only just noticed that eclCCE is here to provide DVD2SVCD support for CCE 2.66 Trial, so I downloaded eclCCE and went through the installation and Usage portions of the eclCCE pdf. I must be missing something though, because every time DVD2SVCD gets to encoding, CCE says Limitation of Trial Version Can't save ECL file. and in the DVD2SVCD log Executing Cinema Craft Encoder. Error cannot find CCE project file. I've got the CCE path pointing to eclCCE.exe, which is in the same dir as CCE 2.66.01.04 and eclCCE.dll, and the eclCCE.ini is set for cctspt.exe. It does the same thing if I run just eclCCE and load the AviSynth_Script_file.avs DVD2SVCD created. I'm using Keep Interlaced and an Interlaced Source CCE template made while reading the eclCCE pdf. The DVD2SVCD log file also says it has to perform IVTC based on the DVD2AVI project file. Any idea? -=<halcyon>=-

14th April 2003, 12:51	#84 \| Link
halcyon Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Mpls, MN, USA Posts: 32	Thanks for the speedy reply. -=<halcyon>=-

15th April 2003, 11:07	#85 \| Link
TKSoft2000 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 98	EclCCE doesn't give CCE tthe correct task priority! I'm using this nice tool together with DVD2SVCD where I have choosen the priority ILDE. EclCCE gets this priority correct, but CCE always runns as normal! EclCCE should check which priority itself has and take this priority also for CCE. For DVD2SVCD it is more difficut to implement this that it is for you because the autor can get the correct handle of EclCCE by using ShellExecute, but if he wants to reach CCE behind your program he needs to search the correct CCE window! If the user has multiple instances of CCE running at the same time this is much to difficult so you should implement this small feature in your program. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK & HELP! Regards TKS

25th April 2003, 08:00	#91 \| Link
daxab Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Under the gun Posts: 238	@RB Great stuff, really slick. I wanted to request saving of the 3:2 pulldown detection settings. You mention earlier in the thread that you might work on that if there is demand...so I wanted to speak up. (My dream is to write a program that would take a DVD2AVI project and use the field flags in it to instruct CCE exactly how to encode a hybrid source. The hope is that this would allow one to, with CCE, create an exact copy of a hybrid source -- something currently possible with DVD2One and the like, but at the cost of image quality.)

25th April 2003, 19:54	#94 \| Link
daxab Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Under the gun Posts: 238	Thanks, I understand. That dialog is a nightmare. I think you can ignore all the "Phase calculators" buttons though. And on the left, there is a duplicate set of 10 buttons that can be ignored (A:1 2 B:1 2 3 C:1 2 D:1 2 3) -- these do the same thing as the (1 2) / (1 2 3 4 5) buttons above them. (Or you could ignore the (1 2) and (1 2 3 4 5) buttons, but I'm guessing you'd rather ignore 10 buttons than 7 ). I'll look for an ECL with 3:2 pulldown detection settings -- probably difficult to locate, though. In any case, great app.

26th April 2003, 08:46	#95 \| Link
blixi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 41	Hi! What a pitty. I tried your EclCCE to be able to load an ecl from a script. But its seems that wine does not like it . It starts correctly up cce (2.5) but does not load the ecl. I guess you wont mess with such things. Anyway the idea is great. Greets blixi

26th April 2003, 13:07	#96 \| Link
RB Retired Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,349	Sorry, can't do anything about this. Looks like Wine is not correctly or not at all supporting a technique called 'Windows Hooks'. __________________ EclCCE CCE SP Plugin \| SceneImport Scenarist Plugin

26th April 2003, 13:37	#97 \| Link
blixi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 41	Yes it seems so. fixmerocess:CreateProcessA (C:\Programme\CCE-SP-trial\cctsp.exe,...): NORMAL_PRIORITY_CLASS ignored As I have seen now. But thanks for the reply and sorry for bother you

27th April 2003, 14:52	#98 \| Link
DDogg Retired, but still around Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Lone Star Posts: 3,058	RB, this is such a sweet piece of work! For nearly three years I have had to stare at CCE, "in my face". So, I particularly like the new minimize ability.

27th April 2003, 16:32	#99 \| Link
RB Retired Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,349	You are welcome __________________ EclCCE CCE SP Plugin \| SceneImport Scenarist Plugin

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