MKVToolnix Windows 7 "The final Countdown" - Page 2

jpsdr · 26th July 2022, 19:23

Tested mkvtoolnix-32-bit-69.0.0-revision-007-ga64005aa6-setup.exe under Windows 7 x86, not working for me.

hubblec4 · 27th July 2022, 11:00

for me also not.

filler56789 · 27th July 2022, 18:21

FWIW, and again:

from the #usercomments section for MKVtoolnix @ Videohelp dot com:

Code:

If you have the following 69.0.007 versions bearing the below SHA-1, they will work with Windows 7/8 and respective server version:

B5D5E22968F947558BFB100EF06D37A1FB3BC7C4 mkvtoolnix-32-bit-69.0.0-revision-007-ga64005aa6-setup.exe
5F8BB12A7C9FA214E4B63BCFC4EF020E27186A4F mkvtoolnix-32-bit-69.0.0-revision-007-ga64005aa6.7z
254911C993E8685AE514A8B7FD789C200EA6E3C4 mkvtoolnix-64-bit-69.0.0-revision-007-ga64005aa6-setup.exe
86B4EEDFA42A60D74FECBE76FA55BF44A53D400A mkvtoolnix-64-bit-69.0.0-revision-007-ga64005aa6.7z

BUT the greater surprise is this one

Code:

There might be one more option. There seems to be modified QT6 version for Win7 here:
https://forum.qt.io/topic/133002/qt-creator-6-0-1-and-qt-6-2-2-running-on-windows-7
I've been already able to run another QT6 based software using that (Calibre 6.1 - https://calibre-ebook.com/download).
There you need to use as well VxKex to run it - https://github.com/vxiiduu/VxKex
But MKVToolnix seems to have QT embedded in main exe, so it is not possible just easily replace those binary files like for Calibre.

jpsdr · 29th July 2022, 17:10

Intersesting. Maybe someone who know how to build MKVToolnix can test make a build using this QT version instead of standard.

filler56789 · 29th July 2022, 19:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsdr

Intersesting. Maybe someone who know how to build MKVToolnix can test make a build using this QT version instead of standard.

For the users of Windows 7 and 8.1, the ``ideal´´ solution would be

1) revert the change which made the CLI-executables depend on Qt
(I.O.W., make them use the file magic.mgc again)

+

2) replace the Qt-based GUI with one written in Java, or in a dot-net language, or in C++.

filler56789 · 30th July 2022, 05:13

OOOPS, now finally there exists a non-official build of MKVtoolnix for Windows 7 and 8.1

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/...st#post2663774

jpsdr · 31st July 2022, 11:04

According this thread, the minimal requirement build for mkvtoolnix is QT 5.9.0, so, for now, you "just"

have to build mkvtoolnix with this QT version, no need for tweaked QT version, just normal 5.9.0.
I, out of curiosity take a look of how to build mkvtoolnix... argh... it seems even more painfull than building x264...

Edit
Maybe finaly it's not so painfull, but still failling building...

filler56789 · 31st July 2022, 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsdr

I, out of curiosity take a look of how to build mkvtoolnix... argh... it seems even more painfull than building x264...

INFINITELY more annoying than building x264, granted.
Principally because of the bloated Qt slowware.
When I managed to compile tsMuxeR, it was easy to get rid of the GUI part, which is the one that requires Qt. But MKVtoolnix is much more complex than tsMuxeR :–/

manolito · 31st July 2022, 16:26

Now there is a 32-bit version which works nicely under Win7 . Have a look here:

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/...st#post2663838

Cheers
manolito

Video Dude · 31st July 2022, 19:59

If we could fork MKVToolNix to GitHub and then create an Actions script to automatically compile it.

I found this about Qt5:

Code:

https://github.com/marketplace/actions/install-qt

There should also be ways to include mxe/rake in the Actions script.

Future updates could be cherry picked to commit. Most non-gui commits would not break Win7 support.

jpsdr · 5th August 2022, 09:14

Building MKVToolnix with QT5 under Linux

While the minimum requirement described in the MKVToolnix home page stays QT 5.9.0, it will probably be able to build a Windows 7 version.
For now, i've not been able to build under Windows with MSYS2, the mxe package may just not be compatible with...

But one thing is sure: You can't build from a 32 bits Windows with a 32 bits version of MSYS2.

I'll describe what i've done, so some the paramaters/values i've used are specific to my configuration, adapt if you change things.

I've created an MKVToolnix directory in my $HOME directory.
Then, clone GIT the followings:

Code:

git clone https://gitlab.com/mbunkus/mxe $HOME/MKVToolnix/mxe
git clone https://gitlab.com/mbunkus/mkvtoolnix.git  $HOME/MKVToolnix/mkvtoolnix

Now, edit the setup_cross_compilation_env.sh file in the mkvtoolnix/packaging/windows directory.
Change eventualy the ARCHITECTURE if you want to build for 32 or 64 bits.
For my setup, i've changed:

Code:

INSTALL_DIR=${INSTALL_DIR:-$HOME/MKVToolnix/mxe}

Now change the following line:

Code:

MKVTOOLNIX_DEPENDENCIES+=qt6 qt6-qtmultimedia

with:

Code:

MKVTOOLNIX_DEPENDENCIES+=qt5 qtmultimedia

Now... In the mxe/docs directory, open the index.html file in your brower, and check the necessary installed tools according your Linux version.

I was under Ubuntu 20.04, i'll now switch to install instructions specific to it.
I had to install the following:

Code:

apt-get install \
    autoconf \
    automake \
    autopoint \
    bash \
    bison \
    bzip2 \
    flex \
    g++ \
    g++-multilib \
    gettext \
    git \
    gperf \
    intltool \
    libc6-dev-i386 \
    libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev \
    libltdl-dev \
    libssl-dev \
    libtool-bin \
    libxml-parser-perl \
    lzip \
    make \
    openssl \
    p7zip-full \
    patch \
    perl \
    python3 \
    python3-mako \
    ruby \
    sed \
    unzip \
    wget \
    xz-utils

That was for mxe. I've struggle a little to figure out what was missing to finalise.
I may have installed too much things, so, the following is my guess of what may just be necessary:

Code:

apt-get install python-is-python3 libogg-dev libvorbis-dev docbook-xsl xsltproc

You can try with just this. If it fails, add the following:

Code:

apt-get install vorbis-tools qt5-default build-essential qtcreator

On my system, both lines are installed, but as i said, i may have installed things not necessary.

Now, from within the mkvtoolnix directory, run the script:

Code:

./packaging/windows/setup_cross_compilation_env.sh

The building library part will take a LOOOT of time, without any message log displayed, so, don't panic if script seems "frozen", it's not ! But, once it's done, when you re-run the script, it will not take a lot of time.

Now... If everything went fine, it will say it and display a message with also 3 commands to execute, with rake at the last.
Copy/paste (and so execute) the 3 commands in your console.
The last, rake, will build mkvtoolnix.
You have to search within the src directory (and sub-directories) to find all the .exe.
I've been able to build a 32 bits version of 69.0.0.39, tested Ok (at leat the GUI starts) on a Windows 7 x86.

Edit
If you want to build both 32 bits and 64 bits versions, once a build is finished, you have to run "rake clean", and after changing ARCHITECTURE in setup_cross_compilation_env.sh, re-run it, don't add the PATH (it's allready done if you're still in the same console), just "hash -r" and "rake".

And then, after, you have to strip the files.

Edit 2
Collect them together in a location for stripping them all at once.
32-bit executables require the 32-bit strip.exe, 64-bit executables require the 64-bit strip.exe.

32-bit build:
Code:

Code:

{mxe}/usr/bin/i686-w64-mingw32.static-strip *.exe

64-bit build:
Code:

Code:

{mxe}/usr/bin/x86_64-w64-mingw32.static-strip *.exe

jpsdr · 5th August 2022, 13:23

Build under Windows with MSYS2 is not looking good...
After solving some issues, i've been able to begin the toolchain build, but after a very long time (at least 1h if not 2h), it failed with:

Code:

configure: error: Oops, mp_limb_t doesn't seem to work

After a little search, it seems to be a MSYS2 issue, for now there is unfortunately a big chance this being a fatal blow...

filler56789 · 5th August 2022, 13:44

I have not read everything yet, BUT maybe there exists a workaround :–/

Code:

.............
The configure step fails with "error: Oops, mp_limb_t doesn't seem to work" apparently because it calls configure using an absolute path, not relative.

https://githubmemory.com/repo/wbhart/mpir/issues/189

jpsdr · 5th August 2022, 14:31

Unfortunately, this is advanced Makefile/script, i'm totaly lost and have no idea of what to do (if it's even possible to do something).

jpsdr · 6th August 2022, 08:15

Anyway, i have 69.0.0.39 Windows 7 working (at least, GUI start, didn't test further yet) version build under Linux, but i don't know where to put it. Any suggestion ? Create a Github ?

hubblec4 · 6th August 2022, 13:01

GitLab

filler56789 · 6th August 2022, 13:50

BOTH GitHub and GitLab.

Just to be on the safe side.

Hopefully someone will change the source-code and find a way to get rid of Qt

entirely 😇.

filler56789 · 6th August 2022, 13:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsdr

Anyway, i have 69.0.0.39 Windows 7 working (at least, GUI start, didn't test further yet) version build under Linux, but i don't know where to put it. Any suggestion ? Create a Github ?

You might have already shared the archive in that Videohelp thread that I opened some weeks ago.

jpsdr · 7th August 2022, 10:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by filler56789

Hopefully someone will change the source-code and find a way to get rid of Qt

entirely ��.

This is, i think a LOOOT harder than just try to build it with a QT5 version, while the minimum is still QT5.
I'll think later eventualy for at least a github.

jpsdr · 10th August 2022, 18:27

Check first post, and forget GitLab, i stopped trying to understand how it works before i wanted to kill someone...

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jpsdr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: France Posts: 2,245	Tested mkvtoolnix-32-bit-69.0.0-revision-007-ga64005aa6-setup.exe under Windows 7 x86, not working for me. __________________ My github.

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jpsdr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: France Posts: 2,245	Intersesting. Maybe someone who know how to build MKVToolnix can test make a build using this QT version instead of standard. __________________ My github.

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jpsdr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: France Posts: 2,245	According this thread, the minimal requirement build for mkvtoolnix is QT 5.9.0, so, for now, you "just" have to build mkvtoolnix with this QT version, no need for tweaked QT version, just normal 5.9.0. I, out of curiosity take a look of how to build mkvtoolnix... argh... it seems even more painfull than building x264... Edit Maybe finaly it's not so painfull, but still failling building... __________________ My github. Last edited by jpsdr; 31st July 2022 at 12:16.

31st July 2022, 19:59	#30 \| Link
Video Dude Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,052	If we could fork MKVToolNix to GitHub and then create an Actions script to automatically compile it. I found this about Qt5: Code: https://github.com/marketplace/actions/install-qt There should also be ways to include mxe/rake in the Actions script. Future updates could be cherry picked to commit. Most non-gui commits would not break Win7 support.

30th July 2022, 05:13	#26 \| Link
filler56789 SuperVirus Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Antarctic Japan Posts: 1,347	OOOPS, now finally there exists a non-official build of MKVtoolnix for Windows 7 and 8.1 https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/...st#post2663774

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manolito Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 3,062	Now there is a 32-bit version which works nicely under Win7 . Have a look here: https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/...st#post2663838 Cheers manolito

5th August 2022, 09:14	#31 \| Link
jpsdr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: France Posts: 2,245	Building MKVToolnix with QT5 under Linux While the minimum requirement described in the MKVToolnix home page stays QT 5.9.0, it will probably be able to build a Windows 7 version. For now, i've not been able to build under Windows with MSYS2, the mxe package may just not be compatible with... But one thing is sure: You can't build from a 32 bits Windows with a 32 bits version of MSYS2. I'll describe what i've done, so some the paramaters/values i've used are specific to my configuration, adapt if you change things. I've created an MKVToolnix directory in my $HOME directory. Then, clone GIT the followings: Code: git clone https://gitlab.com/mbunkus/mxe $HOME/MKVToolnix/mxe git clone https://gitlab.com/mbunkus/mkvtoolnix.git $HOME/MKVToolnix/mkvtoolnix Now, edit the setup_cross_compilation_env.sh file in the mkvtoolnix/packaging/windows directory. Change eventualy the ARCHITECTURE if you want to build for 32 or 64 bits. For my setup, i've changed: Code: INSTALL_DIR=${INSTALL_DIR:-$HOME/MKVToolnix/mxe} Now change the following line: Code: MKVTOOLNIX_DEPENDENCIES+=qt6 qt6-qtmultimedia with: Code: MKVTOOLNIX_DEPENDENCIES+=qt5 qtmultimedia Now... In the mxe/docs directory, open the index.html file in your brower, and check the necessary installed tools according your Linux version. I was under Ubuntu 20.04, i'll now switch to install instructions specific to it. I had to install the following: Code: apt-get install \ autoconf \ automake \ autopoint \ bash \ bison \ bzip2 \ flex \ g++ \ g++-multilib \ gettext \ git \ gperf \ intltool \ libc6-dev-i386 \ libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev \ libltdl-dev \ libssl-dev \ libtool-bin \ libxml-parser-perl \ lzip \ make \ openssl \ p7zip-full \ patch \ perl \ python3 \ python3-mako \ ruby \ sed \ unzip \ wget \ xz-utils That was for mxe. I've struggle a little to figure out what was missing to finalise. I may have installed too much things, so, the following is my guess of what may just be necessary: Code: apt-get install python-is-python3 libogg-dev libvorbis-dev docbook-xsl xsltproc You can try with just this. If it fails, add the following: Code: apt-get install vorbis-tools qt5-default build-essential qtcreator On my system, both lines are installed, but as i said, i may have installed things not necessary. Now, from within the mkvtoolnix directory, run the script: Code: ./packaging/windows/setup_cross_compilation_env.sh The building library part will take a LOOOT of time, without any message log displayed, so, don't panic if script seems "frozen", it's not ! But, once it's done, when you re-run the script, it will not take a lot of time. Now... If everything went fine, it will say it and display a message with also 3 commands to execute, with rake at the last. Copy/paste (and so execute) the 3 commands in your console. The last, rake, will build mkvtoolnix. You have to search within the src directory (and sub-directories) to find all the .exe. I've been able to build a 32 bits version of 69.0.0.39, tested Ok (at leat the GUI starts) on a Windows 7 x86. Edit If you want to build both 32 bits and 64 bits versions, once a build is finished, you have to run "rake clean", and after changing ARCHITECTURE in setup_cross_compilation_env.sh, re-run it, don't add the PATH (it's allready done if you're still in the same console), just "hash -r" and "rake". And then, after, you have to strip the files. Edit 2 Collect them together in a location for stripping them all at once. 32-bit executables require the 32-bit strip.exe, 64-bit executables require the 64-bit strip.exe. 32-bit build: Code: Code: {mxe}/usr/bin/i686-w64-mingw32.static-strip .exe 64-bit build: Code: Code: {mxe}/usr/bin/x86_64-w64-mingw32.static-strip .exe __________________ My github. Last edited by jpsdr; 10th August 2022 at 08:52.

5th August 2022, 13:23	#32 \| Link
jpsdr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: France Posts: 2,245	Build under Windows with MSYS2 is not looking good... After solving some issues, i've been able to begin the toolchain build, but after a very long time (at least 1h if not 2h), it failed with: Code: configure: error: Oops, mp_limb_t doesn't seem to work After a little search, it seems to be a MSYS2 issue, for now there is unfortunately a big chance this being a fatal blow... __________________ My github.

5th August 2022, 13:44	#33 \| Link
filler56789 SuperVirus Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Antarctic Japan Posts: 1,347	I have not read everything yet, BUT maybe there exists a workaround :–/ Code: ............. The configure step fails with "error: Oops, mp_limb_t doesn't seem to work" apparently because it calls configure using an absolute path, not relative. https://githubmemory.com/repo/wbhart/mpir/issues/189

5th August 2022, 14:31	#34 \| Link
jpsdr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: France Posts: 2,245	Unfortunately, this is advanced Makefile/script, i'm totaly lost and have no idea of what to do (if it's even possible to do something). __________________ My github.

6th August 2022, 08:15	#35 \| Link
jpsdr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: France Posts: 2,245	Anyway, i have 69.0.0.39 Windows 7 working (at least, GUI start, didn't test further yet) version build under Linux, but i don't know where to put it. Any suggestion ? Create a Github ? __________________ My github.

6th August 2022, 13:01	#36 \| Link
hubblec4 Matroska find' ich toll Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,346	GitLab __________________ chapterEditor \|\| Matroska-Playback \|\| hSplit \|\| DiscShare

6th August 2022, 13:50	#37 \| Link
filler56789 SuperVirus Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Antarctic Japan Posts: 1,347	BOTH GitHub and GitLab. Just to be on the safe side. Hopefully someone will change the source-code and find a way to get rid of Qt entirely 😇.

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jpsdr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: France Posts: 2,245	Check first post, and forget GitLab, i stopped trying to understand how it works before i wanted to kill someone... __________________ My github.

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