Avisynth+ Plugins folder...

[Lathe]

Hello there!

I've been trying to learn (FOR YEARS!) how to use the bloody AVS scripts. I've had like 2.6x forever, but I just went ahead and installed Avisynth+ because I read that you can have both and it is newer and has more stuff

The thing is I have my old AVS plugins folder with tons of stuff in it (whether it works or not, IDK...) but, nothing is in the Avs+ plugins folder except a few that were installed with the program. There are plugins+, a plugins64, and a plugins64+ folders with basically nothing in them.

Does the new + program automatically try to load plugins from the old AVS program, or do I have to put a bunch of plugins in one of the folders and WHICH bloody one...?

Thanks!

[avinewbie]

Hi
What worked for me in past on 64 bit PC install of avisynth:
make a copy as back up of all the exsisting plugins needed from old avisynth( just in case)
uninstall old avisynth--this might not be necessary(notsure),
(perhaps also try clean out all remnants from registry?)
install new avisynth
copy from the backup( if there is no newer versions of the DLLs on line), the least number plugins( ONLY 64 bit versions) needed and dependencies of each filter to plugins64+( i think plugins 64 also works)
run avsinfo tool which will show any issues if any
good luck

[StvG]

Originally Posted by Lathe

Does the new + program automatically try to load plugins from the old AVS program, or do I have to put a bunch of plugins in one of the folders and WHICH bloody one...?

Thanks!

- plugins folder - loads 32-bit plugins that can work with Avisynth 2.6
- plugins+ folder - loads 32-bit plugins that can work only with Avisynth+
- plugins64 folder - loads 64-bit plugins that can work with Avisynth version older than Avisynth+
- plugins64+ folder - loads 64-bit plugins that can work only with Avisynth+.

Now... the above is the description of the folders. The separation can be helpful to the users with separating the filters by the min required Avisynth and that's all.
You can put filter that cannot work with Avisynth 2.6 (min req. is Avisynth+) in plugins/plugins64 (without +) and it will be loaded again. Vice versa is also valid.
If you have the same filter (identical/different versions) in both plugins/plugins+ or plugins64/plugins64+ the one in plugins+/plugins64+ will be load firstly and the other one in plugins/plugins64 will be ignored.

Using 32-bit plugins makes the whole chain 32-bit (previewer 32-bit).
Using 64-bit plugins makes the whole chain 64-bit (previewer 64-bit).

[tebasuna51]

Originally Posted by Lathe

... installed Avisynth+ because I read that you can have both and it is newer and has more stuff

You can have Avs 2.6 32 bits and Avs+ 3.7.3 64 bits at same time installed. Then VirtualDub2 32 bits, MeGUI 32 bits, etc. run with Avs 2.6 and VirtualDub 64 bits, MeGUI 6666 64 bits, etc. run with Avs+ 3.7.3.

If you can try also Avs+ 32 bits preserving the Avs 2.6 you need a tool like the Universal Avisynth Installer to change betwen both versions.

About plugins folders:
Like don't exist a reliable Avs 2.6 64 bits you can use plugins64 or plugins64+ to store the last versions of all the plugins 64 bits to be used with Avs+ 64 bits

In the standard plugins folder (PluginDir2_5 in register) you can have all the old plugins 32 bits than work with your Avs 2.6.

There are new versions 32 bits than can't work with Avs 2.6 and need Avs+ even for 32 bits, that plugins must be at plugins+ folder and aren't used by Avs 2.6, only if you install Avs+ 32 bits and take preference over the old plugins in standard plugin folder.

To check the integrity of your AviSynth install I recomend you use the Avisynth Info Tool

EDIT: StvG was fast, and it is also clear.
My last recomendation is: forget Avs 2.6, it is abandoned (last version in 2016), if your PC OS is 64 bits use only Avs+ 64 bits

[Lathe]

Originally Posted by avinewbie

Hi
What worked for me in past on 64 bit PC install of avisynth:
make a copy as back up of all the exsisting plugins needed from old avisynth( just in case)
uninstall old avisynth--this might not be necessary(notsure),
(perhaps also try clean out all remnants from registry?)
install new avisynth
copy from the backup( if there is no newer versions of the DLLs on line), the least number plugins( ONLY 64 bit versions) needed and dependencies of each filter to plugins64+( i think plugins 64 also works)
run avsinfo tool which will show any issues if any
good luck

Thank you, I'll check it out. Man, the AVS stuff is SO damn confusing!

[Lathe]

Originally Posted by StvG

- plugins folder - loads 32-bit plugins that can work with Avisynth 2.6
- plugins+ folder - loads 32-bit plugins that can work only with Avisynth+
- plugins64 folder - loads 64-bit plugins that can work with Avisynth version older than Avisynth+
- plugins64+ folder - loads 64-bit plugins that can work only with Avisynth+.

Now... the above is the description of the folders. The separation can be helpful to the users with separating the filters by the min required Avisynth and that's all.
You can put filter that cannot work with Avisynth 2.6 (min req. is Avisynth+) in plugins/plugins64 (without +) and it will be loaded again. Vice versa is also valid.
If you have the same filter (identical/different versions) in both plugins/plugins+ or plugins64/plugins64+ the one in plugins+/plugins64+ will be load firstly and the other one in plugins/plugins64 will be ignored.

Using 32-bit plugins makes the whole chain 32-bit (previewer 32-bit).
Using 64-bit plugins makes the whole chain 64-bit (previewer 64-bit).

I really appreciate the explanation, but man is it confusing. I swear, NOTHING else has been so damn hard to learn! x264, easy! modifying the scripts themselves to modify the results, fine! CMD line stuff, fine! AVS... DAMN confusing! You can't just go get a bunch of plugins that do what you want, drop them in ONE damn place, and run the damn program Sorry, just frustrating as hell!

[tebasuna51]

If you have a SO with support for 64 bits it is easy: use Avs+ 64 bits, plugins64+ folder and x264 64 bits, and forget old 32 bits versions.

Only if you have some older plugins without 64 bits version (now the best plugins have 64 bits version) you can remain with Avs 2.6, the old plugins folder and use x264 32 bits.
Or ask in this forum how do the same than a old plugin 32 bits with a equivalent 64 bits plugin.

That's all.

[FranceBB]

Originally Posted by tebasuna51

forget Avs 2.6, it is abandoned (last version in 2016), if your PC OS is 64 bits use only Avs+ 64 bits

Yep. By the way, for those who are wondering, even with 32bit OS like Windows XP, the latest version of Avisynth+ x86 works like a charm. One notable fact about Avisynth 2.6.1 32bit from 2016 is that it's the last compatible version with Windows98SE. Yes, Win98 has been supported 'till 2016. :P

[Lathe]

Originally Posted by tebasuna51

If you have a SO with support for 64 bits it is easy: use Avs+ 64 bits, plugins64+ folder and x264 64 bits, and forget old 32 bits versions.

Only if you have some older plugins without 64 bits version (now the best plugins have 64 bits version) you can remain with Avs 2.6, the old plugins folder and use x264 32 bits.
Or ask in this forum how do the same than a old plugin 32 bits with a equivalent 64 bits plugin.

That's all.

Thank you for both posts!

Now, just MAYBE before I die, I can learn how to use the damn program where the bleed'n plugins will actually run!