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Old 21st May 2011, 21:01   #12061  |  Link
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@jdobbs, RE:X264's settings are less challenging and it is encoding faster than the frames are being presented to it.

Thanks for the input from the person in charge that should know if anyone here does, lol. I was just wondering why such a big difference between pass1 and pass2 unless it's because it is actually writing the data to the HD instead of just examining the data. I thought maybe that accounts for the 40 fps difference, and maybe a intel X25 SSD would help close the gap between pass 1 and 2, but I am still really pleased with 20 fps in pass2. I was getting around 5 fps in pass2 with my old E8400.
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Keep in mind, that the amount of compression will greatly effect how many FPS you'll see. If you have over 4hrs to compress, that's gonna take some time. 3+ hrs seems to be pretty common I've noticed. If you're converting only the main title, that's gonna take considerably less time. Myself, I prefer to keep as much intact as possible
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Old 21st May 2011, 21:09   #12063  |  Link
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A perfect backup of Black Hawk Down done with the latest build!! many thanks jdobbs seems like the IGS problem is 100% fixed, now the only major issue is the DTS-E Mux...

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So it's working now?
No, I meant I've found the .ini fiile from the re-encode I did, my mistake was to give you the log file first time round.

All the errors I've had so far have been with those transparent discs though. I think it has more to do with your optical drive design than anything else. Remember the silliness with DVDs when the distributors wanted to stop home ripping? They made DVDs that did not conform to Philips spec, that would play in most set top players, but not in computer drives. This could be the start of something similar, but I have no proof.

The rip and rebuild of your copy will put this issue to bed. At exactly 20 muinutes into the film, there's a scene where the new CO is telling Eastwood he's obsolete, and you get a close up of the actors faces. It's asy to spot audio lag here.
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No, I meant I've found the .ini fiile from the re-encode I did, my mistake was to give you the log file first time round.

All the errors I've had so far have been with those transparent discs though. I think it has more to do with your optical drive design than anything else. Remember the silliness with DVDs when the distributors wanted to stop home ripping? They made DVDs that did not conform to Philips spec, that would play in most set top players, but not in computer drives. This could be the start of something similar, but I have no proof.

The rip and rebuild of your copy will put this issue to bed. At exactly 20 muinutes into the film, there's a scene where the new CO is telling Eastwood he's obsolete, and you get a close up of the actors faces. It's asy to spot audio lag here.
I ran "Heartbreak Ridge" yesterday -- no issues here. Just to be sure I just reviewed the scene you mentioned. I wanted to punch the CO , but the sound was in perfect sync.
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Re-encoded again using custom size, was 7GB this time.........here's the log:


[12:13:28] BD Rebuilder v0.37.08 (beta)
- Source: STAND_BY_ME
- Input BD size: 29.25 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:42:11.511]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[12:13:28] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:13:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [12:13:29] Reencoding: VID_00021 (1 of 14)
- [12:13:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 24 frames
- [12:13:29] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:13:30] Video Encode complete
- [12:13:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:13:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:13:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- [12:13:35] Reencoding: VID_00081 (2 of 14)
- [12:13:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,440 frames
- [12:13:35] Reencoding: VID_00081, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:13:50] Video Encode complete
- [12:13:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:13:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:13:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00101]
- [12:13:55] Reencoding: VID_00101 (3 of 14)
- [12:13:55] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,012 frames
- [12:13:55] Reencoding: VID_00101, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:14:10] Video Encode complete
- [12:14:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:14:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:14:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00104]
- [12:14:16] Reencoding: VID_00104 (4 of 14)
- [12:14:16] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,012 frames
- [12:14:16] Reencoding: VID_00104, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:14:31] Video Encode complete
- [12:14:31] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:14:31] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:14:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00107]
- [12:14:40] Reencoding: VID_00107 (5 of 14)
- [12:14:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,040 frames
- [12:14:40] Reencoding: VID_00107, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:15:01] Video Encode complete
- [12:15:01] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:15:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:15:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00108]
- [12:15:10] Reencoding: VID_00108 (6 of 14)
- [12:15:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,451 frames
- [12:15:10] Reencoding: VID_00108, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:15:30] Video Encode complete
- [12:15:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:15:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:15:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [12:15:38] Reencoding: VID_00022 (7 of 14)
- [12:15:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,555 frames
- [12:15:38] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:16:01] Video Encode complete
- [12:16:01] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:16:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:16:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00109]
- [12:16:14] Reencoding: VID_00109 (8 of 14)
- [12:16:14] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,151 frames
- [12:16:14] Reencoding: VID_00109, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:16:55] Video Encode complete
- [12:16:55] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:16:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:16:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00113]
- [12:17:10] Reencoding: VID_00113 (9 of 14)
- [12:17:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,797 frames
- [12:17:10] Reencoding: VID_00113, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:18:05] Video Encode complete
- [12:18:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:18:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:18:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00110]
- [12:18:21] Reencoding: VID_00110 (10 of 14)
- [12:18:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,771 frames
- [12:18:21] Reencoding: VID_00110, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:19:14] Video Encode complete
- [12:19:14] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:19:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:19:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00111]
- [12:19:33] Reencoding: VID_00111 (11 of 14)
- [12:19:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,559 frames
- [12:19:33] Reencoding: VID_00111, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:20:53] Video Encode complete
- [12:20:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:20:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:20:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00105]
- [12:21:28] Reencoding: VID_00105 (12 of 14)
- [12:21:28] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [12:21:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,712 frames
- [12:21:38] Reencoding: VID_00105, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:23:52] Video Encode complete
- [12:23:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:23:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:24:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00106]
- [12:25:38] Reencoding: VID_00106 (13 of 14)
- [12:25:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 66,135 frames
- [12:25:39] Reencoding: VID_00106, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:29:14] Video Encode complete
- [12:29:14] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:29:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:29:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [12:45:31] Reencoding: VID_00011 (14 of 14)
- [12:45:31] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [12:51:52] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 127,656 frames
- Bitrate: 23,952 Kbs
- [12:51:52] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:04:07] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:30:54] Video Encode complete
- [18:30:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:30:54] Multiplexing M2TS
[18:43:43]PHASE ONE complete
[18:43:43]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:43:43] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[18:44:07] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[18:44:07] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[18:48:43]JOB: STAND_BY_ME finished.

@jdobbs here is the log you asked me to post. Encoded twice, one came out 11GB in size, and the other 7GB. It def seems like it's re-encoding the main movie so i'm not sure what's causing it to be so undersized.

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@jdobbs here is the log you asked me to post. Encoded twice, one came out 11GB in size, and the other 7GB. It def seems like it's re-encoding the main movie so i'm not sure what's causing it to be so undersized.

Thanks in advance.
I'm looking at your log and the main feature is encoded at a bitrate of 23,952 Kbs. I also see that you are keep HD audio. A guess mght be that you are hitting the maximum combined bitrate. But that should add up to almost 16GB for the video alone...

Are you using all the exact versions that are linked in the first post of this thread?
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Ok let me try to change to 640 kbps and see what happens. Will post back with results.
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Old 23rd May 2011, 15:52   #12069  |  Link
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I'm looking at your log and the main feature is encoded at a bitrate of 23,952 Kbs. I also see that you are keep HD audio. A guess mght be that you are hitting the maximum combined bitrate.
Just curious, not related to the suspect undersize, but the top of the log says:
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- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
The only file reencoded with 2-pass is the last one, with all the rest 1-pass.
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Ok let me try to change to 640 kbps and see what happens. Will post back with results.
Lowering the audio to 640kbps will not increase the file size, but perhaps lower it. The suggestion is that the video bitrate is already very high, so giving the video more space by lowering the audio will not increase the file size since it is already maxed out.
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Lowering the audio to 640kbps will not increase the file size, but perhaps lower it. The suggestion is that the video bitrate is already very high, so giving the video more space by lowering the audio will not increase the file size since it is already maxed out.
But if I make the audio small enough, it can leave the video untouched and thus make it closer to the 25GB size I desire.
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Just curious, not related to the suspect undersize, but the top of the log says:
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The only file reencoded with 2-pass is the last one, with all the rest 1-pass.
Probably "Quick Encode for Extras"
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But if I make the audio small enough, it can leave the video untouched and thus make it closer to the 25GB size I desire.
I edited my response -- are you using the exact versions of the apps linked in the first post of this thread? Something is wrong because the bitrate and length of the main feature should add up to almost 16GB for that stream's video alone.
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Probably "Quick Encode for Extras"
Awe yes, I forgot about that option. Thanks!
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So selecting 640 audio got me to 15GB, but still quite a bit under. I confirmed i had the versions defined in this thread, but uninstalled and reinstalled to ensure and i'm trying again with HD Audio.
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So selecting 640 audio got me to 15GB, but still quite a bit under. I confirmed i had the versions defined in this thread, but uninstalled and reinstalled to ensure and i'm trying again with HD Audio.
I guess I'm going to have to run that disc to find out what's going on...

[Edit] Picked it up, will run tonight. Glad to find out this movie is now available in Blu-Ray -- one of my favorites.
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Awesome. I ran it again and got 17GB....getting closer
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Re-encoded again using custom size, was 7GB this time.........here's the log:
@jdobbs:

Is there any significance to the fact that VID_00105 (12 of 14) and VID_00011 (14 of 14) say "Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]" instead of "Reencoding: VID_00### (## of 14)"?

Also, I noticed that VID_00106 (13 of 14) reencodes 66,135 frames in 3.1/2 minutes, or approx 300fps. That seems pretty fast.


@[slim]D12: Try turning OFF the option that clears the WORKFILES folder after the process completes, so you can see what actual files are used to create the BD file structure (and how big they are). Also, until you get this figured out, perhaps you should remove ImgBurn as a variable, and just evaluate the contents of the recreated BD folders.
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Is there any significance to the fact that VID_00105 (12 of 14) and VID_00011 (14 of 14) say "Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]" instead of "Reencoding: VID_00### (## of 14)"?

Also, I noticed that VID_00106 (13 of 14) reencodes 66,135 frames in 3.1/2 minutes, or approx 300fps. That seems pretty fast.


@[slim]D12: Try turning OFF the option that clears the WORKFILES folder after the process completes, so you can see what actual files are used to create the BD file structure (and how big they are). Also, until you get this figured out, perhaps you should remove ImgBurn as a variable, and just evaluate the contents of the recreated BD folders.
It's supposed to say "Secondary" -- because that stream has a secondary video stream (PiP).

300fps isn't unusual for a 720x480 stream. I get around 360fps on my dedicated video computer.
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Failed Video encode

I have had a lot of good results with BD-RB, but recently I have been getting some errors. I tried version 37.07 and had errors so I downloaded 38.02 and got the same results. Here is the log:
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[20:34:09] BD Rebuilder v0.37.07 (beta)
- Source: DRWHO_ENDOFTIME_PART2
- Input BD size: 41.62 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:19:44.013]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[20:34:09] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:34:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00123]
- [20:36:51] Reencoding: VID_00123 (1 of 4)
- [20:36:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 31,078 frames
- [20:36:52] Reencoding: VID_00123, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:41:42] Video Encode complete
- [20:41:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:41:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:41:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00122]
- [20:45:59] Reencoding: VID_00122 (2 of 4)
- [20:45:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 37,950 frames
- Bitrate: 18,690 Kbs
- [20:46:00] Reencoding: VID_00122, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:53:50] Video Encode complete
- [20:53:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:53:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:53:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00121]
- [21:05:26] Reencoding: VID_00121 (3 of 4)
- [21:05:27] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 102,317 frames
- Bitrate: 20,604 Kbs
- [21:05:30] Reencoding: VID_00121, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.37.07 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [1]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libmpeg2": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[21:08:44] - Failed video encode, aborted
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[23:56:03] BD Rebuilder v0.38.02 (beta)
- Source: DRWHO_ENDOFTIME_PART2
- Input BD size: 41.62 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:19:44.013]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[23:56:05] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:56:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00120]
- [00:12:56] Reencoding: VID_00120 (1 of 4)
- [00:12:56] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 130,667 frames
- Bitrate: 14,936 Kbs
- [00:13:02] Reencoding: VID_00120, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.38.02 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [1]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libmpeg2": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[00:16:21] - Failed video encode, aborted

Am I missing something obvious?
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