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Old 14th July 2024, 23:00   #31861  |  Link
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I have experimented with resampling the frame rate on telecine'd material to 23.976. How successful that is depends on the how much editing AFTER conversion to 29.97 was done; in other words, whether the extra frames are uniformly spaced throughout. Where they are, it works, although some trial and error may be needed to get the first frame right (i.e. so that the skipped frame is always the extra one).

But where post editing took place, I have found it necessary to do the same thing multiple times, each with a start point one frame further in from the start. And then inspect each outout and select the parts that are right and edit them back together. Long job.
Yep, I've had some recreated DVDs, usually from foreign HD sources, where they have encoded the file improperly. In those cases I don't have the knowhow like most of you do to go through and micro analyze to see what's wrong, so I have to just do my best to 'gloss' over everything and make it look it's best
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Old 15th July 2024, 19:14   #31862  |  Link
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That's just the default (AC3 is very efficient). If you don't want it converted, go to the SETTINGS/SETUP dialog and check "Do not convert DTS to AC3" in the "Audio Encoding" panel.
Thank You but I have already that option on and still convert the track

This happens when I import from an MKV movie

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Old 15th July 2024, 19:37   #31863  |  Link
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Thank You but I have already that option on and still convert the track

This happens when I import from an MKV movie
Do you have
KEEP HD AUDIO
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Old 15th July 2024, 20:29   #31864  |  Link
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Do you have
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Yes I do

I don't know what's happening

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Old 15th July 2024, 22:37   #31865  |  Link
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Hello, why Bdrebuilder do this? why convert the DTS to Ac3? I mean I had to use another tool because for some reazon rebuilder does that?
You are complainig about DTS being converted to AC3, when that is not the case:
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[13:14:29] Importing MKV: SISU.2022.BDREMUX.1080P.H.264-LMHD
 - Collecting audio/video streams from source...
 - Converting audio, Track #3, THD to AC3...
Read again what you posted. It is THD that is being converted, not DTS.
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Old 15th July 2024, 22:44   #31866  |  Link
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You also have a choice of the deinterlacer type:
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DEINTERLACER_TYPE=n	n = 1-5 - 1=DECOMB,2=None,3=SmoothDeinterlace (default),4=Progressive (fake),5=3+1
Maybe an option 6: TFM().TDecimate()
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Old 15th July 2024, 23:30   #31867  |  Link
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Maybe an option 6: TFM().TDecimate()
You know... It's extremely rare and almost never happens, but I do believe this time you are right!
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Old 16th July 2024, 15:37   #31868  |  Link
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Maybe an option 6: TFM().TDecimate()
That setting is for deinterlacing -- not IVTC. There are also hidden settings for IVTC:
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IMPORT_NO_PULLDOWN=n	n = 0/1 - Default=0, if set to 1, removes pulldown flags (IVTC) during import of MPEG2/DVD

IVTC_1080i=n 		n = 0/1 - Default=0, 1=Perform IVTC on all 1080i sources (careful -- sometimes a bad idea)
IVTC_1080p=n 		n = 0/1 - Default=0, 1=Perform IVTC on all 1080p 29.97fps sources (careful)
IVTC_480i=n 		n = 0/1 - Default=0, 1=Perform IVTC on all 480i sources (careful -- sometimes a bad idea)
IVTC_METHOD=n		n = 0/1 = Default=1, 1=Use TIVTC for IVTC, 0=Use DECOMB for IVTC, 
IVTC_SELECTION=n	n = 0/1 - Default=0, 1=Enables IVTC on dropdown menu, normally for hard telecined sources
IVTC_TELECIDE=n		n = 0/1 - Default=1, 1=Use IVTC_METHOD for Inverse telecining (IVTC) never uses direct IVTC

SD_PROGRESSIVE=n	n = 0/1 - 1=ON (default). Keeps IVTC'd 480i sources as 480p.  "0" inserts pulldown flags.
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Ahh! Gotchya. Maybe this should have been mentioned earlier so that Lathe could have used one, or more, of those settings. Specifically:
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IMPORT_NO_PULLDOWN=1
IVTC_SELECTION=1
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Ahh! Gotchya. Maybe this should have been mentioned earlier so that Lathe could have used one, or more, of those settings. Specifically:
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IMPORT_NO_PULLDOWN=1
IVTC_SELECTION=1
IVTC_480i=1
IVTC_1080i=1
Yeah, I sure didn't know about those. I'm still a bit confused, but the ones you mention specifically above I'll keep in mind.

Still, FWIW, just adding the AVS line seemed to do it perfectly, but I sure don't understand all the ins and outs of it...
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Oh, BTW... Does BDRB do HDR-SDR conversion? I'm currently using CleverFFmpeg since it seems to use some sort of 'Mobius' thing and the colours come out better than using Handbrake's colour BT709 colour filter.

I'd be going of course from UHD to HD also.
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I'm still a bit confused,
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Still, FWIW, just adding the AVS line seemed to do it perfectly, but I sure don't understand all the ins and outs of it...
Your adding the AVS filters still requires you to rewrap at a different frame rate. It is very possible by letting BDRB do the IVTC, it "should" come out at the correct frame rate.
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Your adding the AVS filters still requires you to rewrap at a different frame rate. It is very possible by letting BDRB do the IVTC, it "should" come out at the correct frame rate.
Oh yeah, that's right, the frame rate didn't come out right.
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Old 17th July 2024, 16:28   #31875  |  Link
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do you have a NVidia gpu?
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Old 18th July 2024, 00:56   #31876  |  Link
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do you have a NVidia gpu?
It's an AMD Radeon, so I don't think I can get into all this esoteric GPU stuff. I'll probably just have to stay with using my CPU which does just fine.
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Try the DG filters.
A bunch can work in software mode.
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Try the DG filters.
A bunch can work in software mode.
DGHDRtoSDR
DGPQtoHLG_1.0
Thanks! How do I employ these 'DG' filters, what context/program?
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Old 18th July 2024, 11:54   #31879  |  Link
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They are AVS filters
https://www.rationalqm.us/mine.html
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I'll check them out, thanks!

***EDIT

So, the ones where it says 2.6 and 'above', can I then just drop them in my new AVS+ plugins folder or do I have to put them in my old 2.6 plugins folder?
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