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Old 5th September 2011, 14:39   #1  |  Link
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sound not working but video is great

this just started happening lately where most of the newer things i try and convert to avi i get great video but the sound is gone and what is there is this squeeky high pitched noise every once in a while

any idea what i can do to remedy this? and what info do you need to see so that you can help me figure this out?

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Old 5th September 2011, 15:11   #2  |  Link
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First, tell us which program you are using.
AutoGK or genuine GK.
Second, post some Log files.
Third, post a Mediainfo log of the source file.
Did you install a suspicious codec pack lately or some obscure audio drivers/codecs?
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Old 5th September 2011, 17:10   #3  |  Link
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[9/5/2011 11:11:50 AM] AutoGK 2.55
[9/5/2011 11:11:50 AM] OS: Windows Vista (6.1.7601).2
[9/5/2011 11:11:50 AM] Job started.
[9/5/2011 11:11:50 AM] Input file: C:\DVD Ripping\MainMovie\RIO\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
[9/5/2011 11:11:50 AM] Output file: C:\DVD Ripping\MainMovie\RIO\VIDEO_TS\RIO2.avi
[9/5/2011 11:11:50 AM] Output codec: XviD
[9/5/2011 11:11:50 AM] Audio 1: English AC3 6ch
[9/5/2011 11:11:50 AM] Subtitles: none
[9/5/2011 11:11:50 AM] Format: AVI
[9/5/2011 11:11:50 AM] Target size: 1120Mb
[9/5/2011 11:11:50 AM] Audio 1 settings: Auto
[9/5/2011 11:11:50 AM] Started encoding.
[9/5/2011 11:11:50 AM] Demuxing and indexing.
[9/5/2011 11:12:58 AM] Processing file: C:\DVD Ripping\MainMovie\RIO\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
[9/5/2011 11:12:58 AM] Processing file: C:\DVD Ripping\MainMovie\RIO\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
[9/5/2011 11:12:58 AM] Processing file: C:\DVD Ripping\MainMovie\RIO\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB
[9/5/2011 11:12:58 AM] Processing file: C:\DVD Ripping\MainMovie\RIO\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB
[9/5/2011 11:12:58 AM] Processing file: C:\DVD Ripping\MainMovie\RIO\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.VOB
[9/5/2011 11:12:58 AM] Source resolution: 720x480
[9/5/2011 11:12:58 AM] Found NTSC source.
[9/5/2011 11:12:58 AM] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[9/5/2011 11:12:58 AM] Source seems to be pure FILM.
[9/5/2011 11:12:58 AM] Output will contain 138021 frames
[9/5/2011 11:12:58 AM] Using VAQ in XviD
[9/5/2011 11:12:58 AM] Audio1 size: 322,370,048 bytes (307.44 Mb)
[9/5/2011 11:12:58 AM] Overhead: 959,488 bytes (0.92 Mb)
[9/5/2011 11:12:58 AM] Video size: 851,075,584 bytes (811.65 Mb)
[9/5/2011 11:12:58 AM] Running compressibility test.
[9/5/2011 11:14:20 AM] Duration was: 1 minute, 22 seconds
[9/5/2011 11:14:20 AM] Speed was: 83.81 fps.
[9/5/2011 11:14:21 AM] Compressibility percentage is: 62.58
[9/5/2011 11:14:21 AM] Chosen resolution is: 656x288 ( AR: 2.28 )
[9/5/2011 11:14:21 AM] Predicted comptest value is: 70.89%
[9/5/2011 11:14:21 AM] Running first pass.
[9/5/2011 11:34:17 AM] Duration was: 19 minutes 56 seconds
[9/5/2011 11:34:17 AM] Speed was: 115.39 fps.
[9/5/2011 11:34:17 AM] Expected quality of first pass size: 64.95%
[9/5/2011 11:34:17 AM] Running second pass.
[9/5/2011 12:02:45 PM] Duration was: 28 minutes 27 seconds
[9/5/2011 12:02:45 PM] Speed was: 80.82 fps.
[9/5/2011 12:02:45 PM] Job finished. Total time: 50 minutes 54 seconds
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i use DVDFab to rip the movie, then AutoGK to form the avi, main movie only, thats all i have ever done before and its always worked perfect, lately its hit and miss

no new codecs to my knowledge

how do i get a mediainfo log of the source file?
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Old 5th September 2011, 21:50   #4  |  Link
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Install Mediainfo or use the portable version.
Make a log from one vob.
Same for the broken Avi.
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Old 6th September 2011, 00:20   #5  |  Link
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how do i get the information that you are looking for from mediainfo
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Old 6th September 2011, 02:08   #6  |  Link
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What are you using to play the AVIs? I assume the same program plays all of your older AVIs fine?

In your example above it appears the original AC3 audio was used so there was no audio encoding involved, just video encoding, which would seem to point to the problem being a playback one, not an encoding one.

If you're not, try using Media Player Classic-Home Cinema to play the newly created AVI, but first open it's options and under "Internal Filters", make sure everything is checked. That should ensure it uses it's own internal splitters and codecs which will hopefully eliminate a rouge codec on your PC.

PS If you open a video file with MPC-HC and use the File/Properties menu, under the MediaInfo tab you'll find the same information MediaInfo would provide only without having to install MediaInfo as a separate program to obtain it.

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so when i set up autogk to create the avi file should i not use the auto option for the sound? and instead actually select one of the options?
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Old 6th September 2011, 03:33   #8  |  Link
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It never ceases to amaze me when someone replies to a post while completely ignoring every question they were asked, yet while expecting to receive an answer to their question.
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Old 6th September 2011, 12:11   #9  |  Link
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well because your reply doesnt help at all, because i have moved the AVI file to 3 different computers, so it cant be JUST a rogue codec on MY computer

it doesnt work on my desktop, laptop, a mac, or my xbox streaming. so it has to be something during the creation of the AVI or the ripping of the DVD
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Old 6th September 2011, 13:45   #10  |  Link
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well because your reply doesnt help at all, because i have moved the AVI file to 3 different computers, so it cant be JUST a rogue codec on MY computer
That's the type of information needed to help solve your problem, one you should have included in your initial post. Now kindly remember that whether or not you think someone's questions are relevant to your problem, address them or explain why you think it's not the problem.

As mentioned, there is nothing in the log about transcoding the audio so it must have just copied the audio to the new file. Since the file doesn't play with audio on any of your machines, either something went wrong in the muxing process or DVDFab didn't rip the audio properly. To help determine where things went wrong, open each file in MediaInfo and select View > Text to copy/paste here if you can't see yourself what the problem is.
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Old 6th September 2011, 13:53   #11  |  Link
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any idea what i can do to remedy this? and what info do you need to see so that you can help me figure this out?
thanks
Why ask what info is needed when you won't supply the info asked of you?
You didn't mention any of the above in your OP and the batteries in my crystal ball must have been flat when I asked the questions.

I've been using AutoGK for years and years and even if it's just through a bit of trial and error I, and others, could probably have helped you find the cause of the problem, but we can't if you're deciding which questions are helping us to help you and which ones aren't.

You've been asked for the info MediaInfo supplies for a problem AVI and given two ways to obtain it, yet still nothing.
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Old 7th September 2011, 12:09   #12  |  Link
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this is from the AVI file, the info from one of the vob files is ridiculously huge, do you want me to make that in several posts?

General
Complete name : C:\DVD Ripping\MainMovie\RIO\VIDEO_TS\RIO2.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 1.09 GiB
Duration : 1h 35mn
Overall bit rate : 1 633 Kbps
Writing application : VirtualDubMod 1.5.4.1 (build 2178/release)
Writing library : VirtualDubMod build 2178/release

Video
ID : 0
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings, BVOP : 1
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Codec ID : XVID
Codec ID/Hint : XviD
Duration : 1h 35mn
Bit rate : 1 178 Kbps
Width : 656 pixels
Height : 288 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.25:1
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.260
Stream size : 808 MiB (72%)
Writing library : XviD 58

Audio
ID : 1
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : 2000
Duration : 1h 35mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 307 MiB (27%)
Alignment : Split accross interleaves
Interleave, duration : 96 ms (2.30 video frames)
Interleave, preload duration : 96 ms
Language : English
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just the first vob was huge this is the second and was more manageable


General
Complete name : C:\DVD Ripping\MainMovie\RIO\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
Format : MPEG-PS
File size : 1 024 MiB
Duration : 23mn 6s
Overall bit rate : 6 196 Kbps

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Duration : 23mn 6s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 5 177 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 9 800 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Standard : Component
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Scan order : 2:3 Pulldown
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.625
Stream size : 856 MiB (84%)

Audio #1
ID : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 23mn 6s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -588ms
Stream size : 74.0 MiB (7%)

Audio #2
ID : 189 (0xBD)-129 (0x81)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 23mn 6s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -588ms
Stream size : 74.0 MiB (7%)

Text #1
ID : 189 (0xBD)-32 (0x20)
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Delay relative to video : 1s 34ms

Text #2
ID : 189 (0xBD)-33 (0x21)
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Delay relative to video : 1s 34ms

Text #3
ID : 224 (0xE0)-DVD-2
Format : EIA-608
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #1
Stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%)

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There's nothing in the MediaInfo info I can see which indicates the audio shouldn't play properly so I guess it's a little trial and error....

First thing I'd do (not that I really think it's anything to do with the problem, but you never know) is update the version of VirtualDubMod AutoGK installed (it's in the AutoGK installation folder) to the last VirtualDubMod release. You can simply copy and paste the new files over the top of the old ones.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/virt...od%201.5.10.2/

AutoGK creates a temp folder in the same directory as the output file. In it you'll find the original AC3 audio (and any converted MP3 audio etc). Open the AC3 audio with a media player to confirm it plays correctly. Open it with MediaInfo to confirm the AC3 has the same properties on it's own as it does when inside the AVI.

Try ripping the DVD with a different program. RipIt4Me is the one I use (you'll find it with Google and it requires DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink to be installed).

If it's not the ripping where it's going wrong, try forcing AutoGK to convert the AC3 to MP3 to see if it still has the same problem. You can probably run a few different encoding tests on just one of the vob files (copy it to a separate folder) rather than have to encode the whole movie. Running the test encodes using a default (75%) quality setting rather than picking a file size will also speed up the process.

If none of the above finds the problem, another thing to try would be to manually remux the original audio into the AVI AutoGK creates and save it as a new file. If you're not familiar with how to do that, I can post instructions.
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Maybe just post a sample of the vob and the final avi.
DGSplit to cut a sample from the vob and for the avi use Virtualdub in Direct Stream modus.
Cut at I frames.
5 -10 megabytes should be fairly enough.
May I suggest Mediafire as file hoster?
No more guessing, just the plain truth
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Yeah, that's probably a good idea. It's usually much easier to find a problem looking at it first hand. Some samples would be good.
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here is the cut of the vob, for some reson virtualdub wont open the avi bc it cant "locate the decompressor for format XVID"

http://www.mediafire.com/?9pcna4axtbtqa12
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for some reson virtualdub wont open the avi bc it cant "locate the decompressor for format XVID"
You are missing an YV12 Codec for decompressing the avi in Virtuldub.
May I suggest a nice clean install of Xvid or Helix or FFdshow VFW.
If you use ffdshow make sure the VFW decoder is set up correctly.
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I've just encoded your sample to xvid.
Everything's just fine.
The sound is loud and clear. All AC3 5/1 channels are running.
Encoded to mp3 vbr 128kbs as the next step,
and yes it's running too.
I give up.
There is something on your side totally burked.
The best thing is:
Download the whole package from Autogk Website.
Deinstall AutoGk, deinstall Xvid, ffdshow and /or ac3filter
and do a clean install with just the needed components.
Good luck!
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ill try the xvid reinstall, again see if that helps, but thank you for taking a look at that file

if the reinstalls work the decrypted files should still be good right? just need to re use autogk on them?
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