SolveigMM MKV DirectShow Demuxer + Muxer Testing

[rica]

Originally Posted by Stanislav Mikhailenko

I will check out DTS-HD MA to implement support in our splitter.
If you provide mkv with truehd and dts-hd ma (small sample) will be appreciated.

dtshd-ma is already working:

Originally Posted by rica

dtshd-ma:

Works with your splitter via ffdshow and i get dtshd audio bitstream and blue light. But it's not possible to seek.

thd or LPCM:

Never agreed with ffdshow or ReClock:


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I will upload short samples later.

[rica]

dtshd-ma sample:

http://www.mediafire.com/?tmufzougmjt


thd sample:

http://www.mediafire.com/?5rjhgj1wyzk

(btw thd mkv doesn't include ac3 core but thd alone since mkvmerge can not mux them together. On the other hand with graph method Haali or Gabest mkvmuxer can mux only ac3 core while the source file is thd+ac3 -demuxed via eac3to.)

[video_magic]

Re: my earlier post. I have now upgraded Media Player Classic HC to the newer build 1.3.1881.0
,and changed to using the recent FFDShow-Tryouts build to decode H264 (ffdshow_rev3435_20100512_sse_icl11.exe), instead of an MPC filter.

Now what happens is I don't get the shimmering blocking for a few seconds after seeking, but instead when I seek the picture frame 'freezes' for a couple of seconds or so and then catches up with the audio.

I am going to try the newer MKV filters you are posting in this thread.

[Stanislav Mikhailenko]

Updates:

SMM_MatroskaSplitter (version - 1.0.1005.19)

SMM_MatroskaMuxer (version - 1.0.1005.19)

Changes/Fixes:

Splitter:
Fixed shimmering when seeking (Regressive bug)
Muxer:
Fixed unable to mux avc video streams an exception occures (Regressive bug)

[Stanislav Mikhailenko]

Originally Posted by video_magic

Re: my earlier post. I have now upgraded Media Player Classic HC to the newer build 1.3.1881.0
,and changed to using the recent FFDShow-Tryouts build to decode H264 (ffdshow_rev3435_20100512_sse_icl11.exe), instead of an MPC filter.

Now what happens is I don't get the shimmering blocking for a few seconds after seeking, but instead when I seek the picture frame 'freezes' for a couple of seconds or so and then catches up with the audio.

I am going to try the newer MKV filters you are posting in this thread.

try out splitter 1005.19 the problem should disappear.

[rica]

Originally Posted by Dmitry Vergheles

We are developing MKV DirectShow Muxer + Splitter.

Originally Posted by Stanislav Mikhailenko

Updates:

SMM_MatroskaSplitter (version - 1.0.1005.19)

Changes/Fixes:

Splitter:
Fixed shimmering when seeking (Regressive bug)

I don't think this exe supports mkv, does it? (btw it was an ax only before.)

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[Stanislav Mikhailenko]

Originally Posted by rica

I don't think this exe supports mkv, does it? (btw it was an ax only before.)

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There was an ax only and now it is, what do you mean?

[video_magic]

Hello, I can confirm that with the new splitter version 1.0.1005.19 the 'pausing after seeking' problem is almost gone.

It still pauses noticeably (this is on my fast system) for just 1 second maybe a little less, but not a problem for me.
This is a very good splitter, thankyou.

[Dmitry Vergheles]

Originally Posted by video_magic

Hello, I can confirm that with the new splitter version 1.0.1005.19 the 'pausing after seeking' problem is almost gone.

It still pauses noticeably (this is on my fast system) for just 1 second maybe a little less, but not a problem for me.
This is a very good splitter, thankyou.

Hello video_magic,
Thank you for your help!

Concerning Pause, it is important to figure out if it the Splitter problem or not.

Do you still test it with MPC? Could you check MPC without our Splitter with the same stream to say if it is better or same?

[liquidskin76]

Originally Posted by Stanislav Mikhailenko

the chapters: If it will be popular and useful feature we will. What player/software do you use to get mkv chapters benefits?

Hi,

Regarding MKV chapters, they work as standard when using mpc matroska splitter and haali media splitter. Players such as MPC-HC use them.

Thanks

[rica]

Originally Posted by Stanislav Mikhailenko

There was an ax only and now it is, what do you mean?

Previous versions were splitter.ax files which had to be registered but new version is an exe, i mean it's a software.

But it wasn't the response of my question.
Anyway.

[video_magic]

Originally Posted by Dmitry Vergheles

Hello video_magic,
Thank you for your help!

Concerning Pause, it is important to figure out if it the Splitter problem or not.

Do you still test it with MPC? Could you check MPC without our Splitter with the same stream to say if it is better or same?

Hello, yes still using Media Player Classic HC new build.
I successfully unregistered your filter (regsvr32 /u C:\1tmp\SMM_MKVSplitter.ax)

I then installed the newest Haali Splitter build from today 20-05-10 (v1.10.175.0)!

This new Haali Matroska splitter worked fine without the brief pause after each seek, in Media Player Classic HC.

[Dmitry Vergheles]

Originally Posted by video_magic

This new Haali Matroska splitter worked fine without the brief pause after each seek, in Media Player Classic HC.

Ok, thanks we will check that

[Stanislav Mikhailenko]

Updates:

SMM_MatroskaSplitter (version - 1.0.1005.27)

SMM_MatroskaMuxer (version - 1.0.1005.27)

Changes/Fixes:

Splitter:
BugFix: accurate seeking on B-frames with correct prerolling
"A_TRUEHD" True HD ac3 audio support.
Seek TIME_FORMAT_FRAME support + start/stop seek positions

Muxer:
muxing AVC: slice type (I,P,B) determination by parsing coded data ( not by using sample times).

Both:
upgrade to libmatroska 0.9.0

[Stanislav Mikhailenko]

Originally Posted by rica

dtshd-ma sample:

http://www.mediafire.com/?tmufzougmjt


thd sample:

http://www.mediafire.com/?5rjhgj1wyzk

(btw thd mkv doesn't include ac3 core but thd alone since mkvmerge can not mux them together. On the other hand with graph method Haali or Gabest mkvmuxer can mux only ac3 core while the source file is thd+ac3 -demuxed via eac3to.)

dtshd-ma sample: plays and seeks well without any problems using "ffdshow video decoder",
may be it's disfunction of "microsoft dtv-dvd video decoder" (Win7 tweak tool will help "http://www.codecguide.com/windows7_preferred_filter_tweaker.htm")

thd sample: I've added "A_TRUEHD" audio support to splitter. SMM_MatroskaSplitter (version - 1.0.1005.27)


PS: in archive shouldn't be any ".exe" there is only ".ax" file.

[rica]

Originally Posted by Stanislav Mikhailenko

dtshd-ma sample: plays and seeks well without any problems using "ffdshow video decoder",
may be it's disfunction of "microsoft dtv-dvd video decoder" (Win7 tweak tool will help "http://www.codecguide.com/windows7_preferred_filter_tweaker.htm")

thd sample: I've added "A_TRUEHD" audio support to splitter. SMM_MatroskaSplitter (version - 1.0.1005.27)


PS: in archive shouldn't be any ".exe" there is only ".ax" file.

OK, thanks for the update.

It works for both without any issue.

Haven't tried muxer yet, is it muxing ac3 core and thd together?

Second, is it possible to give m2ts support to splitter?

Thx.

[liquidskin76]

Originally Posted by rica

Haven't tried muxer yet, is it muxing ac3 core and thd together?

I'm curious about this one to. MKVMerge and MakeMKV both remove the core AC3 file from a TrueHD soundtrack. I would love to be able to keep, so TrueHD behaviour is the same as DTS-HD! You then have automatic AC3 bitstream backup... automatic in the fact that you don't have to select a separate track.

Also, this is probably a stupid question, but how do you use a muxer when it's a .ax file on it's own? I'm only used to using a complete solution like MKVMerge.

Cheers

[rica]

Originally Posted by liquidskin76

Also, this is probably a stupid question, but how do you use a muxer when it's a .ax file on it's own? I'm only used to using a complete solution like MKVMerge.

No muxer allows you to mux seperate files on Graph afaik.
I use Graph things for remux. (GraphEdit or GraphStudio)

Ideally for every separate files *.h264 or *.thd should connect to any muxer via file source (Async) filter.
But no chance.

So finally for Gabest or Haali, you may connect any m2ts via Gabest or Haali Source filter to any muxer; since both filters are source/splitter filter as well and also muxing filters are muxer/file writer.



But for Solveig: it's not a source filter, just a splitter by alone. So you have to use File Source (Async) before.
And also, Solveig muxer is not a combined filter like Haali or Gabest, so you have to use File Writer Filter after muxing.
And it's just an mkv splitter and this time the source file must be an mkv:



But my trials showed me today DTSHD-MA mkv can be muxed with Solveig muxer but while playing the remuxed file, i got this:



And i couldn't remux a THD mkv since Graphthings crashed while muxing.


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[video_magic]

With the newest SMM Splitter 1.0.1005.27 there is still the little '1 second or less' pause after seeking, which the newest haali splitter doesn't have.

Here is the mediainfo report on the mkv which exhibits that behaviour:

Format                           : Matroska
File size                        : 1.63 GiB
Duration                         : 2h 27mn
Overall bit rate                 : 1 586 Kbps
Encoded date                     : UTC 2009-10-13 15:23:38
Writing application              : mkvmerge v2.9.8 ('C'est le bon') built on Aug 13 2009 12:49:06
Writing library                  : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID                               : 1
Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                   : High@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames        : 3 frames
Muxing mode                      : Container profile=Unknown@3.1
Codec ID                         : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                         : 2h 27mn
Bit rate                         : 1 170 Kbps
Nominal bit rate                 : 1 200 Kbps
Width                            : 720 pixels
Height                           : 416 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
Frame rate                       : 25.000 fps
Resolution                       : 8 bits
Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0
Scan type                        : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.156
Stream size                      : 1.20 GiB (74%)
Writing library                  : x264 core 68 r1183M f21daff
Encoding settings                : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=1200 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
Language                         : English

Audio
ID                               : 2
Format                           : AC-3
Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
Format_Settings_ModeExtension    : CM (complete main)
Codec ID                         : A_AC3
Duration                         : 2h 27mn
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 384 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 6 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Stream size                      : 404 MiB (24%)
Language                         : English

[oddball]

Just tried this with a remuxed VC1 Blu-ray video in MKV container and it hangs MPC at opening (Never plays). Normal x264 MKV's play fine.