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Guest · 28th June 2010, 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by tormento

Please tell me which parts you need to debug the error.

MPLS file please.

Guest · 28th June 2010, 23:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by stax76

I have a sample causing a problem when loading from command line, it loads using -i without -o but with -i and -o together it fails to load, somehow weird, I hope you can reproduce it, another sample I just tried did not cause any problem.

http://www.filedropper.com/mp4aaclc

Investigating...

shortkud · 28th June 2010, 23:42

I understand that setting deinterlace=1 also sets fieldop=2 but I think i'm having some odd results because of that. On some clips if I set deinterlace=1 the runtime is very different than that of deinterlace=0. On actual clips the runtime difference can be as much as 5 minutes. Please set me straight

LoadPlugin("C:\NVTools\DGMultiDecodeNV.dll")
DGMultiSource("test.dgi", deinterlace=1)

Runtime=1:16

LoadPlugin("C:\NVTools\DGMultiDecodeNV.dll")
DGMultiSource("test.dgi", deinterlace=0)

Runtime=1:34

Sample Clip

GearX · 29th June 2010, 01:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by shortkud

I understand that setting deinterlace=1 also sets fieldop=2 but I think i'm having some odd results because of that. On some clips if I set deinterlace=1 the runtime is very different than that of deinterlace=0. On actual clips the runtime difference can be as much as 5 minutes. Please set me straight

LoadPlugin("C:\NVTools\DGMultiDecodeNV.dll")
DGMultiSource("test.dgi", deinterlace=1)

Runtime=1:16

LoadPlugin("C:\NVTools\DGMultiDecodeNV.dll")
DGMultiSource("test.dgi", deinterlace=0)

Runtime=1:34

Sample Clip

That clip is telecined -- you shouldn't be using CUVID deinterlace at all. The reason it's 1:16 instead of 1:34 is because the deinterlaced frames are still being displayed at 29.97 fps. And, you don't have a perfect telecine pattern. That clip is only 92% film.

You should do this instead:

LoadPlugin("C:\NVTools\DGMultiDecodeNV.dll")
DGMultiSource("test.dgi")
Telecide(guide=1)
Decimate(cycle=5)

Guest · 29th June 2010, 02:01

Exactly correct, GearX. A fine analysis!

Guest · 29th June 2010, 02:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by stax76

I have a sample causing a problem when loading from command line, it loads using -i without -o but with -i and -o together it fails to load, somehow weird, I hope you can reproduce it, another sample I just tried did not cause any problem.

I have found and fixed this. DGIndexNV gathers the first 500 start codes and looks at them to determine the video type. Your sample is so short it does not contain 500 start codes. For CLI invocation I error out in that case but not for normal invocation. I changed it to not error out in the CLI case. The fix will be in the next release, which I'd like to get out right away but tormento is tormenting me by not providing the requested MPLS file.

If it's not there in the morning I will make a release because I have some other important changes I need to deliver.

shortkud · 29th June 2010, 03:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by GearX

That clip is telecined -- you shouldn't be using CUVID deinterlace at all. The reason it's 1:16 instead of 1:34 is because the deinterlaced frames are still being displayed at 29.97 fps. And, you don't have a perfect telecine pattern. That clip is only 92% film.

You should do this instead:

LoadPlugin("C:\NVTools\DGMultiDecodeNV.dll")
DGMultiSource("test.dgi")
Telecide(guide=1)
Decimate(cycle=5)

If CUVID didn't ignore the pulldown flags would it report correctly? Why must it ignore pulldown flags when de-interlacing?

I have other clips that are telecined that work fine in conjunction with deinterlace=1 and Decimate()

Guest · 29th June 2010, 03:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by shortkud

If CUVID didn't ignore the pulldown flags would it report correctly? Why must it ignore pulldown flags when de-interlacing?

Pulldown is entirely up to the display process. CUVID delivers only the decoded frames; it does not pull them down for display.

Quote:

I have other clips that are telecined that work fine in conjunction with deinterlace=1 and Decimate()

Then they must be hard telecined, and it is still suboptimal to apply a deinterlacer.

tormento · 29th June 2010, 06:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by neuron2

tormento is tormenting me by not providing the requested MPLS file

Hey man, sometimes I sleep too =pPppPpp

Here you are. 00072.7z

29th June 2010, 12:07

Um, is there a new link to the licensing page?!?

Call me tired, or just plain stupid, I just can seem to find it :P

http://neuron2.net/licensing just leads me to a 404 page

May I request a link to the online licensing page on the "About" box, so us slow types can keep up!

7ek

Guest · 29th June 2010, 12:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7ekno

Um, is there a new link to the licensing page?!?

It's sent to you with your user id.

http://neuron2.net/licensing.html

Guest · 29th June 2010, 13:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by tormento

With the retail italian Cars BD, on movie playlist (00072.mpls, 0…2 angles), the audio demux recognizes only 1100…1105 languages. The following 1106…110b, which are not hidden, are not recognized.

The MPLS you gave me shows only 6 audio streams. Are you sure those extras weren't PG streams? Show me the BDInfo screenshot please.

tormento · 29th June 2010, 13:13

Sent to private.

Guest · 29th June 2010, 13:18

The shots confirm my results. There are 6 primary audio, 6 hidden, and 6 PG streams. In BDInfo hidden tracks are marked with an asterisk, it says so right at the bottom of the dialog.

tormento · 29th June 2010, 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by neuron2

The shots confirm my results. There are 6 primary audio, 6 hidden, and 6 PG streams. In BDInfo hidden tracks are marked with an asterisk, it says so right at the bottom of the dialog.

If they are hidden, DGIndex should mask them too.

Groucho2004 · 29th June 2010, 23:09

Simple question - Do the NV tools work on Windows Server 2003 (32 bit)?

Guest · 29th June 2010, 23:11

If the needed Nvidia drivers work there then I see no reason why not.

Groucho2004 · 29th June 2010, 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by neuron2

If the needed Nvidia drivers work there then I see no reason why not.

The XP drivers work just fine (>= 191.07). I just seem to remember some feature in NV tools requiring XP SP3 which made me think that there might be something XP has that W2003 doesn't.

Guest · 30th June 2010, 00:26

There was a bug in VMR9 deinterlacing that affected double rate deinterlacing. IIRC it applies only in D3D mode, so don't use that.

Guest · 30th June 2010, 01:08

* In the file list dialog, if no changes have been made, hitting OK now does
not reopen the input files.

* A File/Step option was added. When the display is set to full size, on some
displays the buttons are off screen. This change allows the single-step mode to
be entered in such cases.

* Fixed crashes when a bare MPLS file is opened (one not part of a full BDMV tree).

* Opening files with CLI -i -o failed with small files. Fixed.

* Fixed two bugs in video demux: 1) garbage before the first start code was erroneously
replaced with zeroes instead of being deleted, 2) for AVC, trailing_zero_bytes greater than 1
resulted in writing garbage at the end of the NALU, making the demuxed file unusable.

* DGI file format is unchanged and working licenses continue to work.

http://neuron2.net/dgdecnv/dgdecnv.html

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7ekno Guest Posts: n/a	Um, is there a new link to the licensing page?!? Call me tired, or just plain stupid, I just can seem to find it :P http://neuron2.net/licensing just leads me to a 404 page May I request a link to the online licensing page on the "About" box, so us slow types can keep up! 7ek Last edited by 7ekno; 29th June 2010 at 12:14.

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tormento Acid fr0g Join Date: May 2002 Location: Italy Posts: 3,075	Sent to private. __________________ @turment on Telegram

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Guest Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 21,901	The shots confirm my results. There are 6 primary audio, 6 hidden, and 6 PG streams. In BDInfo hidden tracks are marked with an asterisk, it says so right at the bottom of the dialog. Last edited by Guest; 29th June 2010 at 13:24.

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Guest Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 21,901	Build 2017 * In the file list dialog, if no changes have been made, hitting OK now does not reopen the input files. * A File/Step option was added. When the display is set to full size, on some displays the buttons are off screen. This change allows the single-step mode to be entered in such cases. * Fixed crashes when a bare MPLS file is opened (one not part of a full BDMV tree). * Opening files with CLI -i -o failed with small files. Fixed. * Fixed two bugs in video demux: 1) garbage before the first start code was erroneously replaced with zeroes instead of being deleted, 2) for AVC, trailing_zero_bytes greater than 1 resulted in writing garbage at the end of the NALU, making the demuxed file unusable. * DGI file format is unchanged and working licenses continue to work. http://neuron2.net/dgdecnv/dgdecnv.html Last edited by Guest; 30th June 2010 at 01:11.

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28th June 2010, 23:42	#1803 \| Link
shortkud Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 14	I understand that setting deinterlace=1 also sets fieldop=2 but I think i'm having some odd results because of that. On some clips if I set deinterlace=1 the runtime is very different than that of deinterlace=0. On actual clips the runtime difference can be as much as 5 minutes. Please set me straight LoadPlugin("C:\NVTools\DGMultiDecodeNV.dll") DGMultiSource("test.dgi", deinterlace=1) Runtime=1:16 LoadPlugin("C:\NVTools\DGMultiDecodeNV.dll") DGMultiSource("test.dgi", deinterlace=0) Runtime=1:34 Sample Clip

29th June 2010, 02:01	#1805 \| Link
Guest Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 21,901	Exactly correct, GearX. A fine analysis!

29th June 2010, 23:09	#1816 \| Link
Groucho2004 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Barcelona Posts: 5,034	Simple question - Do the NV tools work on Windows Server 2003 (32 bit)?

29th June 2010, 23:11	#1817 \| Link
Guest Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 21,901	If the needed Nvidia drivers work there then I see no reason why not.

30th June 2010, 00:26	#1819 \| Link
Guest Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 21,901	There was a bug in VMR9 deinterlacing that affected double rate deinterlacing. IIRC it applies only in D3D mode, so don't use that.