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Old 4th June 2011, 12:12   #1  |  Link
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Shrinking dvd?

Hi again, I'm having some trouble shrinking a DVD, no matter what I do the movie just won't go lower than 6gb. Can anyone help?
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Old 4th June 2011, 13:13   #2  |  Link
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What is the DVD and what program are you currently trying to "shrink" it with?
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Old 4th June 2011, 14:37   #3  |  Link
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It's Terminator Salvation and I tried using DVDshrink, I haven't watched it in a while and I'm trying to free up some space on my hard drive. I tried re-authoring the DVD so that it is only the main movie but even then DVDshrink would not shrink it (sorry I don't know what the proper term is for "shrinking" a DVD).
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Old 4th June 2011, 15:31   #4  |  Link
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Since you presumably own this movie on DVD and your only issue is hard drive space, why don't you just delete it from your hard drive?
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I like to keep backup copies of everything, for reasons I have explained in a previous thread besides the DVD doesn't play that well anymore it has a few scratches.
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Old 5th June 2011, 00:15   #6  |  Link
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What did you use to decrypt the disc initially?
What program did you use to rip the DVD to your HDD?

I have Terminator Salvation. As it contains structural protection (according to AnyDVD), I'd have to rip it to the HDD first to see if DVD Shrink could "shrink" it (as DVD Shrink cant handle discs with structural protection unless it's ripped to HDD first). But CloneDVD2 will happily transcode it to DVD5 capacity with AnyDVD running.

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I used DVDdecrypter to rip it, DVDshrink can open the DVD without any problems but I think it's because there are 4 main movie titles on the DVD. I tried re-authoring the DVD and took out only one title, then used IFOedit to make new video_ts and ifo files but it still didn't work, then I tried PGCedit with the DVDshrink plugin and re-authored again and it still won't work. I wanted to try anyDVD but with the exchange rate the way it is it will cost me a fortune.
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Old 5th June 2011, 20:23   #8  |  Link
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I used DVDdecrypter to rip it
DVD Decrypter hasn't been updated in years, and there are copy protection schemes it can't handle. You'll save yourself a lot of work if you re-rip the disk with DVDFab HD Decrypter.
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The copy protection was removed, there is no problem with the file itself it's just that I can't shrink it.
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The copy protection was removed, there is no problem with the file itself it's just that I can't shrink it.
Why don't you use DVD Rebuilder (there is a free version) with the (also free) HC MPEG-2 encoder?
The quality would also be better than DVD Shrink.
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The copy protection was removed
Are you absolutely certain? Try re-ripping it again with DVDFab HD Decrypter.
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@aether

If you are determined to use DVDShrink:

1) First delete the applicable "Analysis Results" from your "Program Data" folder (the one that's applicable to this problematic DVD)

2) Open DVD Shrink and load the DVD

3) Click on the "Analysis" (Deep Analysis) radio button

4) After the analysis is finished, click on the "Backup!" radio button

5) If still too large, load "shrunken" backup copy into DVD Shrink and select "Backup!"

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1) First delete the applicable "Analysis Results" from your "Program Data" folder the one that's applicable to this problematic DVD)
What for?
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Hi!
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What for?
If you don't do this, DVDShrink will not perform a new scan of the DVD - and will use the same settings that were made and used the first time - and resulted in a problematic copy...
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where can i find the free version of DVD re-builder? The one I tried didn't do anything, it just kept saying that it's loading but never loaded anything.
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Now that I think about it am I the only one that experience problems with DVDfab and DVDfab HD decrypter. when I use these programs the resulting backup plays the chapters in an incorrect order or freezes. Does anyone else have this problem, or could it indicate that there is a problem on my PC?
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You're sure about that? Deep Analysis shows the bitrate distribution for Shrink's transcoder which should be pretty much the same despite the copy protection used.
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I'd suggest you try it yourself ;>}

Find a DVD that when FIRST compressed by DVD Shrink yields a copy that is greater than DVD5 (4.37Gb) in total size - then do as I suggested...
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I used DVDdecrypter to rip it, DVDshrink can open the DVD without any problems but I think it's because there are 4 main movie titles on the DVD. I tried re-authoring the DVD and took out only one title, then used IFOedit to make new video_ts and ifo files but it still didn't work.
Why did you need to use IFOedit? DVDShrink should create new Video_ts and ifo files when you save the re-authored version. I assume you were using DVDShrink to re-author the move?

There's a limit to how much DVDShrink will shrink a disc, but it'd be fairly unusual for it not to be able to compress a single movie down to blank DVD size.

Are you sure DVDShrink's options haven't been changed from DVD-5 size to something larger (DVD-9) so it's not actually trying to shrink the disc any further? DVD Shrink should tell you how much it's compressing the movie. What does it say?

Are you 100% sure the backup copy DVDShrink saves is okay? Is the movie duration exactly the same as the duration of the original movie?
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Old 10th June 2011, 03:33   #20  |  Link
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I used IFOedit because PGCedit once gave me a message saying that DVDs that have been re-authored by DVDshrink have errors (this was with another DVD), so I tried making new video_ts and ifo files because I thought that maybe it could work that way. The total size of the file is just over 6GB but when it is opened with DVDshrink it says the total size is over 10GB which is the reason I re-authored and took out the main movie only, as mentioned before DVDshrink reads 4 main movie titles on the DVD. As for the compression ratio, it won't go below 99.1 percent and yes the compression setting were on automatic.
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