Mov file encoded with V210 codec

David1105 · 4th January 2008, 01:33

I have a mov file which is encoded with V210 codec.

Could someone tell me which file(s) for the codec support should be installed on my PC to play back the video and where can I download the files?

Thanks!

sheppaul · 4th January 2008, 03:22

Can't you play the mov with quicktime?

anrque · 4th January 2008, 03:25

Try the Windows codecs from BlackMagic Designs or Bluefish444, both are free downloads. This should solve your .mov v210 issues.

anrque · 4th January 2008, 03:34

Also be aware that these generally have a high data rate (but not as bad as uncompressed RGB) so local playback from a single drive might look choppy. If you have a RAID 0 volume, playback should look fine.

setarip_old · 4th January 2008, 08:20

@David1105

Hi!

Presumably, you should be able to use the same codec that you used to create the video.

What software, procedures, and codec(s) did you use to create this .MOV video?

squid_80 · 4th January 2008, 08:36

v210 is an uncompressed 10-bit YUY2 format, commonly used by professionals. Somehow I don't think it's a rule 6 violation, setarip.

David1105 · 4th January 2008, 19:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheppaul

Can't you play the mov with quicktime?

no. Only audio, video is blank.

David1105 · 4th January 2008, 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by setarip_old

@David1105

Hi!

Presumably, you should be able to use the same codec that you used to create the video.

What software, procedures, and codec(s) did you use to create this .MOV video?

No idea. The file is passed to us...

David1105 · 4th January 2008, 19:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by squid_80

v210 is an uncompressed 10-bit YUY2 format, commonly used by professionals. Somehow I don't think it's a rule 6 violation, setarip.

We don't rip anything.

squid_80 · 4th January 2008, 19:08

If it's still not working try installing cineform's neo player (www.cineform.com). I'm pretty sure that includes a v210 codec for quicktime.

avih · 4th January 2008, 20:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by David1105

No idea. The file is passed to us...

You better come up with a convincing explanation or this thread is closed.

foxyshadis · 6th January 2008, 08:30

I don't think anyone should be under suspicion for having uncompressed 10-bit files. I mean, 2 minutes of SD footage takes up a whole DVD-5! No one without master tapes is even going to want that. (Though you should generally ask the people who passed you the tape what to do if you can't open, or ask who gave it to them, etc; it'll usually be faster than asking the internet. Unless they use macs and you don't, naturally.

)

Koti · 6th January 2008, 20:32

I recently had a few of these given to me by the kid at work that has a mac, we were editing tv spots for our business , 30 seconds was over 1GB

solution was to use QT pro and convert to uncompressed avi

additional files needed were
(BlueFishCodec.qtx)
(QuickTime.qts)
(QuickTimeVR.qtx)
copied to C:\Program Files\QuickTime\QTComponents Folder

shae · 17th February 2010, 16:39

VirtualDub 1.9 can decode by itself V210 in AVI.

Blue_MiSfit · 18th February 2010, 06:07

QuickTime Pro, Compressor, MPEG Streamclip, or any number of other QuickTime powered tools should be able to convert this to something more usable on the PC. It looks like you found a solution with AVI, so good stuff.

I'd suggest encoding to ProRes to save some space, but that's just my two cents

PhotoJPEG will also work, but it loses some quality.

~MiSfit

15th March 2010, 21:48

Could just be a corrupt file.

Or it could be that the server cant send you the codec at this time, seeing as it says there is an error downloading rather than installing. In this case, just try again later.

Might also be a problem with you not running the latest DirectX.

chaynik · 1st August 2010, 23:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by shae

VirtualDub 1.9 can decode by itself V210 in AVI.

That is very cool! How does it handle the extra 2 bits of precision on playback? Are they dithered or clipped?

mp3dom · 2nd August 2010, 00:27

I think BlackMagic codecs internally convert v210 to RGB before output. It's better if you use QTInput with dithering option and raw mode (this will prevent any colorspace conversion). This will output YUY2 4:2:2 8bit (with a simple rounding dithering from 10bit to 8bit). Surely this is not the 'best' method (dithering could be done in a better way) but if the source is not heavy animation/CG (flat colors, a lot of gradients, all fields where dithering is strongly necessary) then the output should look pretty good. Depending on your needs, some pro-encoders supports natively v210 files so if your final target is MPEG/AVC compression, you can feed the encoder directly with the v210 file and the encoder will dither down to 8bit. If you need to write to tape, you can use some lossy codecs (Apple ProRes HQ/Avid DNxHD etc) but I suggest you to use lossless codecs for quality reason.

roozhou · 2nd August 2010, 06:51

v210 is supported in libavcodec. It will be decoded to 16bit YUV 4:2:2.

Biggiesized · 12th August 2010, 05:46

Don't Windows XP and Windows Vista have native VfW 8-bit 4:2:2 YUV and 10-bit 4:2:2 YUV decoders?

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David1105 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 116	Mov file encoded with V210 codec I have a mov file which is encoded with V210 codec. Could someone tell me which file(s) for the codec support should be installed on my PC to play back the video and where can I download the files? Thanks!

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Blue_MiSfit Derek Prestegard IRL Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,989	QuickTime Pro, Compressor, MPEG Streamclip, or any number of other QuickTime powered tools should be able to convert this to something more usable on the PC. It looks like you found a solution with AVI, so good stuff. I'd suggest encoding to ProRes to save some space, but that's just my two cents PhotoJPEG will also work, but it loses some quality. ~MiSfit __________________ These are all my personal statements, not those of my employer :)

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Ignindy Guest Posts: n/a	Mov file encoded with V210 codec Could just be a corrupt file. Or it could be that the server cant send you the codec at this time, seeing as it says there is an error downloading rather than installing. In this case, just try again later. Might also be a problem with you not running the latest DirectX.

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4th January 2008, 03:22	#2 \| Link
sheppaul Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 146	Can't you play the mov with quicktime?

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anrque Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 28	Try the Windows codecs from BlackMagic Designs or Bluefish444, both are free downloads. This should solve your .mov v210 issues.

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anrque Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 28	Also be aware that these generally have a high data rate (but not as bad as uncompressed RGB) so local playback from a single drive might look choppy. If you have a RAID 0 volume, playback should look fine.

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setarip_old Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 16,267	@David1105 Hi! Presumably, you should be able to use the same codec that you used to create the video. What software, procedures, and codec(s) did you use to create this .MOV video?

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squid_80 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,963	v210 is an uncompressed 10-bit YUY2 format, commonly used by professionals. Somehow I don't think it's a rule 6 violation, setarip.

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squid_80 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,963	If it's still not working try installing cineform's neo player (www.cineform.com). I'm pretty sure that includes a v210 codec for quicktime.

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foxyshadis Angel of Night Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tangled in the silks Posts: 9,559	I don't think anyone should be under suspicion for having uncompressed 10-bit files. I mean, 2 minutes of SD footage takes up a whole DVD-5! No one without master tapes is even going to want that. (Though you should generally ask the people who passed you the tape what to do if you can't open, or ask who gave it to them, etc; it'll usually be faster than asking the internet. Unless they use macs and you don't, naturally. )

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Koti Always trying Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The O.C. Posts: 222	I recently had a few of these given to me by the kid at work that has a mac, we were editing tv spots for our business , 30 seconds was over 1GB solution was to use QT pro and convert to uncompressed avi additional files needed were (BlueFishCodec.qtx) (QuickTime.qts) (QuickTimeVR.qtx) copied to C:\Program Files\QuickTime\QTComponents Folder

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shae Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 397	VirtualDub 1.9 can decode by itself V210 in AVI.

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mp3dom Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Italy Posts: 1,135	I think BlackMagic codecs internally convert v210 to RGB before output. It's better if you use QTInput with dithering option and raw mode (this will prevent any colorspace conversion). This will output YUY2 4:2:2 8bit (with a simple rounding dithering from 10bit to 8bit). Surely this is not the 'best' method (dithering could be done in a better way) but if the source is not heavy animation/CG (flat colors, a lot of gradients, all fields where dithering is strongly necessary) then the output should look pretty good. Depending on your needs, some pro-encoders supports natively v210 files so if your final target is MPEG/AVC compression, you can feed the encoder directly with the v210 file and the encoder will dither down to 8bit. If you need to write to tape, you can use some lossy codecs (Apple ProRes HQ/Avid DNxHD etc) but I suggest you to use lossless codecs for quality reason.

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roozhou Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,181	v210 is supported in libavcodec. It will be decoded to 16bit YUV 4:2:2.

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Biggiesized Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 225	Don't Windows XP and Windows Vista have native VfW 8-bit 4:2:2 YUV and 10-bit 4:2:2 YUV decoders?