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Old 21st April 2021, 07:10   #1  |  Link
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Quick-Play Menus, the hidden gem of BD Rebuilder.

One of my favorite features of BD Rebuilder is the "Quick-Play" (QP) feature. I've been doing something for a while now that others might find useful, so I thought I'd share the love. I create all my QP menus ahead of time prior to building the Blu-ray that contains the actual video files. The test folder I use for creating my QP menus is shown below and can be downloaded here for those interested.



The above folder (192 KB) contains 14 sets of Blu-ray folders as that's the maximum number of titles I like to include per page. Each Blu-ray folder is identical and consists of a single blank video file that's 0.5 seconds long. When going to build the QP menu I update the [Titles] portion of the "titles.inf" file accordingly adding the title names. If I'm working with less than 14 titles I'm removing the additional line entries in each section in addition to removing the extra Blu-ray folders I don't need. If I'm working with more than 14 titles I do the opposite also ensuring I have the desired number of QP menu items per page set in the "BDREBUILDER.INI" file. With each Blu-ray folder only being 13.7 KB in size it takes no time at all for BD Rebuilder to build the Blu-ray and QP menu. I then test the Blu-ray in PowerDVD 18, rinse and repeat until I'm satisfied with the end result.

In my case I only use BD Rebuilder to create the given Quick-Play menu, i.e. to create the Blu-ray folder structure and encode the menu background. I always use my own image for the menu background. I only have BD Rebuilder create the QP menu item buttons. Well, BD Rebuilder still creates the Menu Backdrop. I just set it to be completely transparent. (MENU_BACKDROP_OPACITY=0). Instead I include the Menu Backdrop within the Menu Background I create in Photoshop. (See here for an example of what that looks like.) Each of my Menu Background images include the "Main Title" text, i.e. "Episode Selection" and Menu Backdrop that the QP menu item buttons sit on. And yes, my Menu Backdrop looks identical to what BD Rebuilder creates. I don't use the Menu Backdrop created by BD Rebuilder as I prefer to have my Menu Backdrops a fixed width where BD Rebuilder determines the width based on the longest QP menu item naming for a given page. Including the Menu Backdrop within my Menu Background image also allows me to control the padding the Menu Backdrop uses around the QP menu items.

And here's some eye candy for your viewing pleasure, including the quick and dirty on the process I follow...
I was working with MP4/SRT files in this case, one pair for each episode. The first step was extract the Dolby Digital Plus audio track from each MP4 for inclusion later. I then used SubtitleEdit to convert the SRT subtitles to SUP subtitles. With all my assets set to go I then authored the episodes to Blu-ray using multiAVCHD adding chapter stops, audio and subtitles along the way, a single Blu-ray with no menu. Once creating the Blu-ray with multiAVCHD I took the resulting files (M2TS/MPLS/CLPI) for each title (episode) integrating them with the Blu-ray menus I already created using BD Rebuilder, then updating the playlist (MPLS) for each title (episode) using BDedit ensuring each reference the correct M2TS file.

Leverage: The 1st Season





Leverage: The 2nd Season





Leverage: The 3rd Season





Leverage: The 4th Season





Leverage: The Final Season




Did I mention that I love BD Rebuilder's "Quick-Play" feature. :-P Being able to create the QP menus ahead of time has been a real timesaver. Since my Menu Background images contain everything but the QP menu item buttons it's essential I have a way to quickly build and test a given QP menu, then updating my "BDREBUILDER.INI" file and Menu Background image accordingly if needed building and testing again. In any event, I just thought I'd share the love. Feel free to download my test folder if you like. It can be downloaded from my secure website. I provided a download link near the top of the post here. Enjoy!
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And why not. :-P Click here to download the actual QP menus shown above. This is BYOE though, i.e. bring your own episodes. The QP menu download contains 0.5 second blank video files in place of the actual episodes. To incorporate the above with your own Blu-ray's of each season just overwrite your M2TS and CLPI files (99001-99004) with the ones from my corresponding QP menu and you'll be all set. To carry over the "QP menu item" and "page" navigation behavior as well you'll want to use my "index.bdmv" and "MovieObject.bdmv" files from the particular QP menu.

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Old 22nd April 2021, 21:26   #2  |  Link
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Cool. I love how you have taken a fairly simple feature, and made it look very professional.

I've recently been doing more backups using MKV files for backgrounds to create moving-action menus.

A little creativity goes a long way.
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Cool. I love how you have taken a fairly simple feature, and made it look very professional.

I've recently been doing more backups using MKV files for backgrounds to create moving-action menus.

A little creativity goes a long way.
I love moving-action menus. Very cool and yes, a little creativity does go a long way doesn't it. And to each his own, but I consider your "Quick-Play" feature the hidden gem of BD Rebuilder. I could see the "Quick-Play" feature used as the foundation for a stand-alone application used to create Blu-ray menus with perhaps even the inclusive of a pop-up menu. There's simply nothing else out there like it where you can take a single title or multiple titles already authored to Blu-ray spanning across one or more Blu-ray folders quickly processing the titles you choose creating a new Blu-ray that includes a Blu-ray menu. It's quite brilliant really.
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Designated Survivor (2016)

This has been on my ToDoList for a while now. Finally got around to cataloging and authoring the TV series to Blu-ray. Below are screenshots of the QP menus I worked up including links to my online profiles for each season.

Designated Survivor: The Complete First Season





Designated Survivor: The Complete Second Season





Designated Survivor: The Complete Third Season


And for those interested, click here to download the actual QP menus shown above. And no, the actual episodes are not included. When selecting a given episode a 0.5 second blank video file will be played. That being said, the QP menus can be put to good use. All one has to do is download the episodes via AnyStream and their Netflix account, then authoring each season to Blu-ray as I have done. When building the given Blu-ray with BDRB just make sure your BDREBUILDER.INI file includes the "MENU_ITEMS_PAGE" option. You'll want to make sure the option is set to 11. No other QP configuration will be required. Once building the Blu-ray for a given season just overwrite your M2TS and CLPI files (99001-99004) with the ones from my corresponding QP menu and you'll be all set. To carry over the "QP menu item" and "page" navigation behavior from my QP menus just grab the "index.bdmv" and "MovieObject.bdmv" files from the root of the given BDMV folder. That's all there is to it. Enjoy!

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Leverage: Redemption (2021)

I just finished authoring (SubtitleEdit/multiAVCHD/BDRB/BDedit/ImgBurn) and cataloging (DVD Profiler/My Movies) the TV series "Leverage: Redemption" to Blu-ray.

Below are screenshots of the QP menus I worked up. (Click here to view my online profile for this title.)


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And for those interested, click here to download the above QP menus. And this is BYOE of course, i.e. bring your own episodes. The QP menus contains 0.5 second blank video files in place of the actual episodes. (See my prior post for instructions on how to incorporate one of my QP menus with your own build of the same episodes.)

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Carnivāle: The Complete Series (2003)

I just finished authoring (SubtitleEdit/multiAVCHD/BDRB/BDedit/ImgBurn) the HBO TV Series "Carnivāle" to Blu-ray. Below are screenshots of the QP menus I worked up including links to my online profiles for each season.

Carnivāle: The Complete First Season

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Carnivāle: The Complete Second Season

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And for those interested, click here to download the above QP menus. (Included are one disc per season QP menus as well.) And again, this is BYOE, i.e. bring your own episodes. The QP menu downloads contains 0.5 second blank video files in place of the actual episodes. To incorporate the above with your own Blu-ray's of each season just overwrite your M2TS and CLPI files (99001-99004) with the ones from my corresponding QP menu and you'll be all set. To carry over the "QP menu item" and "page" navigation behavior as well just overwrite your "index.bdmv" and "MovieObject.bdmv" files with the ones from either of my QP menus. In any event, just thought I'd share. Enjoy!

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Cobra Kai: Season 4 (2021)

The fun never ends! I authored (MediaInfo/SubtitleEdit/BDSup2Sub/multiAVCHD/BDRB/BDedit/ImgBurn) another TV season to Blu-ray today, Cobra Kai (2021). Below is what the TV series looks like for me from My Movies for Windows Media Center. Included below is a link to my online profile for the TV series which mirrors my local DVD Profiler database, the "Overview" section of the profile including an "Episode List" and "Episode Guide" with images.

As seen from My Movies for Windows Media Center...

(Click on the image above to view my online profile for this title.)

And here is a screenshot of the Blu-ray menu I worked up. I was particular pleased with the "Episode Selection" font treatment I went with. It's not the official font, but might as well be. :-P

As seen from my Blu-ray player...

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The above QP menu can be downloaded here for those interested. As with my prior QP menu downloads, this is BYOE, i.e. bring your own episodes. The QP menu contains 0.5 second blank video files in place of the actual episodes. To incorporate the QP menu with your own Blu-ray of the TV series just overwrite your M2TS and CLPI files (99001-99002) with the ones from my QP menu and you'll be all set. To retain my "QP menu item" and "page" navigation behavior just carry over my "index.bdmv" and "MovieObject.bdmv" files as well. Enjoy!

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The Office (2001-2003)

I authored (MediaInfo/SubtitleEdit/BDSup2Sub/multiAVCHD/BDRB/BDedit/ImgBurn) the TV series, The Office (2001-2003) to Blu-ray the other day. Below is what the TV series looks like for me from My Movies for Windows Media Center. Included below are links to my online profiles for the TV series which mirror my local DVD Profiler database, the "Overview" section of each profile including an "Episode List" and "Episode Guide" with images.

As seen from My Movies for Windows Media Center...


(Click on the image above to view my online profile for this title.)


(Click on the image above to view my online profile for this title.)


(Click on the image above to view my online profile for this title.)


(Click on the image above to view my online profile for this title.)

And here are screenshots of the Blu-ray menus. I worked up a couple sets of Blu-ray menus in this case. The first set follows my standard template. For the second set I decided to have some fun and think outside the box with the help of my friend, BDedit. Quite pleased with the end result I must say. :-P

As seen from my Blu-ray player...


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Both sets of QP menus are available to download here for those interested. As with my prior QP menu downloads, this is BYOE, i.e. bring your own episodes. The QP menus contain 0.5 second blank video files in place of the actual episodes. To incorporate the QP menus with your own Blu-ray's of the TV series just overwrite your M2TS and CLPI files (99001-99010) with the ones from my QP menus and you'll be all set. To retain my "QP menu item" and "page" navigation behavior just carry over my "index.bdmv" and "MovieObject.bdmv" files as well. If you prefer the default navigation behavior I've got that base covered as well. Just use the versions of the "index.bdmv" and "MovieObject.bdmv" files found in the "BDMV\BACKUP" folder. Enjoy!

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I just updated my Blu-ray menus for "The Office (2001-2003)" that I posted about yesterday. The updated Blu-ray menus can be downloaded using the same URL. (See my prior post.)

The updates I made were to the Blu-ray menu that contains multiple pages. The screenshots in my prior post show the "PREV" and "NEXT" buttons as left and right arrows. Those left and right arrows were actually just part of the given menu background image. I tried replacing the images used for the "PREV" and "NEXT" buttons using BDedit, but was unsuccessful. The best I could do was replace the images with blank images making the "PREV" and "NEXT" buttons fully transparent. The "PREV" and "NEXT" buttons still worked for page navigation mind you, you just couldn't see the buttons, the left and right arrows that were part of the given menu background image serving as visual ques only. I prevented menu item navigation from wrapping around as well so. A bit funky, but easy enough to navigate. That being said, I revisited this today and was finally successful after much trial and error. The updated Blu-ray menu appears identical to the screenshots in my prior post. The left and right arrows shown in the screenshots are actually the "PREV" and "NEXT" buttons now. He shoots, he scores!

And here's the process I followed to replace the "PREV" and "NEXT" button images...

STEP 1: Once launching BDedit I browsed to my BDMV folder from the "BDMV" tab, then going to the "CLIPINF" tab selecting the CLPI file from the drop down that corresponded with the M2TS file I wanted to update (9902=Page 1, 99004=Page 2, 99006=Page 3, 99008=Page 4, 99010=Page 5), then pressing the "MENU" button being taken to the "Menu" tab.

STEP 2: From the "Menu" tab I accessed the "Objects" tab highlighting each object and saving (Save object image) the image for each locally. (This had to be done for every object within the M2TS file as every image within the M2TS file needed to be replaced when the time came, not just the images in question I was looking to update. Also, I didn't save the color pallete in this case as I don't have the Scenarist plugin for Photoshop.)

STEP 3: In Photoshop CS3 I then created my own "PREV" and "NEXT" images, i.e. "Normal (N)", "Selected (S)" and "Activated (A)" versions for each. Instead of graphical text I went with left and right arrows which I created using the Shape tool, the same color scheme and drop shadow being applied as was used for the images that called out the title names. Each image was saved from Photoshop at full quality using the regular PNG option. (I would have exported each image instead, but I don't have the Scenarist plugin for Photoshop.)

STEP 4: With updated versions of the "PREV" and "NEXT" images ready to go it was time to process the entire set of images I had previously extracted from the M2TS file, including the replacement images I had just created. (I placed copies of my replacement images in the same folder where I had saved the original images, the full set of images extracted from the M2TS file. I didn't overwrite the original images I intended on replacing though. I could have deleted them at that point, but didn't bother. The replacement images didn't need to be named the same as the original images. None of the images needed to be named the same. They don't need to be the same width and height as the orginal images either. BDedit doesn't care. It takes what you give it and does provide a point of reference, the right pane showing you what the current image looks like as you're going to replace it so.)

To process the images I used the below utility which initially I wasn't able to get to work. Under Windows 7 64-bit I was getting no response at the command line. No response at all. I decided today to try running the utility from Windows 10. When doing so I received a Windows error message stating that it couldn't find a couple debug DLL's, "vcruntime140d.dll" and "ucrtbased.dll". The release versions of the DLL's were present for me under both Windows 7 and Windows 10, i.e. "vcruntime140.dll" and "ucrtbase.dll". The debug versions were no where to be found. I performed some Internet searches at that point and eventually hit paydirt finding a Github forum post where someone was experiencing the same issue. The forum post can be found here. In response to the OP a kind forum member provided a download link to the debug DLL's. Thankfully the download link still worked. Once downloading the DLL's I dropped them in my "SysWOW64" folder under Windows 7 and the rest is history!

(I've found that PNG Quantizer yields far superior results with images that were saved from Photoshop using the regular PNG option. Do not dumb the image down when going to save it. Save the image at full quality. Stay away from the "Save for Web" option as well, especially when working with color images. Trust me. I learned the hard way as I've been messing around with color images and getting some ugly results here and there once incorporating a set of images into a Blu-ray. All the issues I was seeing when testing via PowerDVD went away the moment I started saving the images from Photoshop using the regular PNG option instead.)

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PNG Quantizer for use with BDEdit

I've developed a utility for assisting in editing IG menus for those without Scenarist Designer. For reference, here is the menu editing thread. You can find the tool releases here and the source code if you wish to modify and build it for Linux.

THIS IS A COMMAND LINE TOOL, use "-help" for this information.

This tool takes a directory of files, generates a palette for all of them, then remaps those images and writes them out to a new directory. This tool is meant to be used for editing Interactive Graphics (IG) streams used in Blu-ray menus in association with BDedit.

Usage:
1) Save out everything from BDEdit for the menu you're editing. If your menu contains multiple palettes, save out each set of images to it's own folder to keep the palettes separate.
2) Edit your images as desired.
3) Run the tool with the directory of modified images as the only argument. "Done!" will appear when it's finished. If you don't input any arguments a text help prompt will appear.
4) Replace the images using BDEdit. Be sure to check both the "Replace object" and "Replace palette" boxes for every image, otherwise you'll get extra objects and palettes.
5) Mux out your new menu M2TS file and replace the one in your BDMV/STREAM folder.
6) Close and open up BDEdit again and go to CLIPINF and read the appropriate .clpi file for the menu. A prompt will say it has the wrong number of packets in it, say yes and save the clpi file.
7) That's it! Bit tedious for menus with lots of objects, but it does work.

Proof of function can be seen on the github main page.
(I uploaded PNG_Quantizer and the DLL's to my web space for good measure. The zip file is 8.94 MB and can be downloaded here.)

STEP 5: As outlined above, once generating a new set of images using PNG Quantizer I then returned to the "Menu\Objects" tab within BDedit replacing each image (Load object image) within the M2TS file ensuring the "Replace the selected object" and "Replace the selected color palette" options were checked each time. Once replacing all the images I updated the M2TS file via the "Mux" option browsing to and overwriting the original M2TS file. (It's important to overwrite the original M2TS file, the copy residing in your "BDMV\Stream" folder. Prior to overwriting the file I recommend placing a copy elsewhere in the event you need to restore the original for whatever reason.)

STEP 6: This is the final and most crucial step, Step 7 outined in the "Usage" instructions above. The packet value of a given M2TS file is stored within its CLPI file. As such, when replacing the images within a M2TS file I needed to then make sure its CLPI file didn't also need updated, i.e. to reflect the correct packet value of the updated M2TS file. Of the 5 M2TS files (...one for each menu page) I updated, only 2 of them needed their CLPI files updated. Not updating the CLPI file when necessary results in that page of the Blu-ray menu breaking, only the menu background image being displayed when testing via PowerDVD.

The good thing here is that BDedit will prompt you if the given CLPI file needs updated. Once updating a M2TS file via the "Mux" option I'd immediately return to the "BDMV" tab selecting the "Read" option. This reloads the BDMV folder. BDedit is then able to account for the M2TS file I had just updated. (Alternatively you could restart BDedit as outlined in Step 7 of the "Usage" instructions above.) I'd then return to the CLIPINF tab selecting the CLPI file from the drop down per the M2TS file I had just updated. When doing so a message is displayed if the M2TS packet value stored within the CLPI file doesn't match the updated M2TS file, the option being given for BDedit to correct the packet value stored, i.e. "The m2ts file contains 224 packets. Do you want to correct the packet value of ClipInfo?" When presented with the prompt I selected "Yes" of course, BDedit updating the CLPI file, the given Blu-ray menu page then working without issue as a result when testing via PowerDVD.

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The fun never ends! I updated my Blu-ray menu for "The Office: The Complete Series (2001-2003)" yet again. The updated Blu-ray menu can be downloaded using the same URL a couple posts back. My previous post from yesterday has been updated as well as I'm now able to "properly" replace the images used for the "PREV" and "NEXT" buttons within my Quick-Play menus thanks to a utility I discovered the other day that I was finally able to get working. In any event, just thought I'd share. Enjoy the read and feel free to download the Blu-ray menu and check it out if you like.
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Thanks! I'm loving the ability to replace images within IG menus now. It really opens up some possibilities. Having way too much fun.
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BD Rebuilder, Photoshop, PNG Quantizer and BDedit for the win!

Surprise, surprise. I'm still messing around with the Blu-ray menu I worked up the other day for "The Office: The Complete Series (2001-2003)". After successfully replacing the images used for the "PREV" and "NEXT" buttons I decided to try my hand at replacing all the other images. Had a blast. End result shown below.


(And here's the other pages: Page 2, Page 3, Page 4, Page 5)

The menu background I'm using above no longer includes the title treatment, episode thumbnails and pagination as was the case prior. Instead those things are objects now, i.e menu buttons using my own images. Below are the images I created for the "PREV" and "NEXT" buttons for those interested. Feel free to download them if you like.



For each title I created "Normal (N)", "Selected (S)" and "Activated (A)" images that incorporated both the title text and episode thumbnail, the episode thumbnail being in greyscale when "Normal (N)", then changing to color when "Selected (S)" or "Activated (A)", the frame around the thumbnail mirroring the color used for the text. Example shown below.



(I uploaded PNG_Quantizer and the DLL's to my web space for good measure. The zip file is 8.94 MB and can be downloaded here.)

Some useful BDedit keyboard functions...
Ins: Add a new BOG. (You can add additional buttons within a BOG and add new pages as well.)
Shift-Del: Deletes the selected BOG. (Deletes the selected page as well.)
Ins: Insert NOP command. (NOP means "do nothing", always a good place to start.)
Shift-Del: Delete the selected line(s). (Be careful, there's no undo command.)
Ctrl-C: Copy the selected line(s). (Use the "Command line" field when copying and pasting individual commands.)
Ctrl-X: Cut the selected line(s).
Ctrl-V: Paste the previously copied/cutted lines after the selected line.
Shift-N: Change the selected line to NOP.

Of course I uploaded the latest and greatest here to my web space for those interested. I even made my assets available for download per the below.

QP menus and assets...


I figured some might enjoy having a look behind-the-scenes. You know, at look at how my twisted mind works. (I use Photoshop CS3. My PSD files are included as well.) And those of you feeling adventurous could even open the original Blu-ray menu created by BD Rebuilder in BDedit, then attempting to update the resulting Quick-Play menu as I've done. All the assets are there that you'd need so. Download links provided below.

• "The Office: The Complete Series" QP Menus (3.59 MB)
• "The Office: The Complete Series" QP Menu Assets (100 MB)

And yes, the above downloads are a bit larger than some of the downloads I've offered in the past. Just a tad bit larger I'd say. The juice is worth the squeeze though, so it's all good. Promise. In any event, just thought I'd share. Enjoy!

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A quick update per my post. An updated version of the download is now available. I spent some time this morning cleaning up my Photoshop (PSD) files that are included in the download also including the 2 fonts the PSD files require. I additionally included the font the BDREBUILDER.INI file is configured to use that's part of the download. It's the same font I have BD Rebuilder use for all my Quick Play menus. In any event, that is all. Hope everyone has a great weekend. And if anyone has any questions don't hesitate to ask. To each his own, but I really enjoy the process of making a Quick Play menu my own after the fact using BDedit. I've got my process as refined as possible at this point I think so. Okay, I'll stop talking to myself now. Until next time.

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Thank you for all your inventions in the QP menu. But I see no explanation for the use of the horizontal menu. How do you get BDRB to make the menu horizontal? I see no hidden options to do that.
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Thank you for all your inventions in the QP menu. But I see no explanation for the use of the horizontal menu. How do you get BDRB to make the menu horizontal? I see no hidden options to do that.
I do use a couple hidden options. I set the menu backdrop to be fully transparent (MENU_BACKDROP_OPACITY=0) and turn the pagination (MENU_PAGE_ENABLE=0) off. All other customization is done after the fact using BDedit. Here's what the Blu-ray menu looked like prior to updating it with BDedit.

Quick Play menu created using BD Rebuilder...


Before creating the Quick Play menu I worked up a Blu-ray menu template of sorts in Photoshop creating the menu backgrounds and images for all the buttons in addition to determining the button locations. Click on the image below to view just the layers window. It will give you a good sense of how I put everything together. Note also the numbers I included within the folder and layer names. Those are the "X" and "Y" values to be used when updating the Blu-ray menu from BDedit.


(Click the image above to view the layers window at full size.)

With the Quick Play menu created and all my assets ready to go it was then time to update each Blu-ray menu page using BDedit. From the "Objects" tab for each menu page I replaced the images used for each object adding some new objects/images to each page in the process, i.e. the title treatment, pagination and so forth. From the "BOGs" tab I updated the values (and navigation commands in some cases) used by each button overlap group repositioning the buttons and changing their behavior adding additional items as needed per the new objects/images I had added. To speed the process along I worked up the below excel sheet ahead of time. Makes for quick work when everything is mapped out already. When launching BDedit I'm able to hit the ground running. I transfer the values over inserting items and updating navigation commands as needed along the way and before I know it I'm ready to write to my BDMV folder testing the end result in PowerDVD.


(The "n.start/n.end", "s.start/s.end" and "a.start/a.end" columns define what object, i.e. what image is displayed for each button state. The values shown are the Object IDs. I mapped the values out ahead of time in this case as I knew what order they'd be in. Click here to view the above Object IDs from the "Objects" tab in Bdedit.)

So there's a little taste to wet your whistle. In one of my more recent posts I provide a link to a video tutorial I worked up a couple years ago. You may remember it. It demonstrates how to update the button and page navigation behavior for a Quick Play menu using BDedit. The process outlined is same if you want to reposition the buttons. The "X" and "Y" values are right there next to the other values I'm changing in the video. The process is the same so.

And feel free to hit up the download I made available a couple posts back if you like. The assets available for download should prove insightful. As an exercise you could take the original Blu-ray menu created by BD Rebuilder opening it in BDedit, then making the same updates as I've done. Time permitting perhaps I'll work up another video tutorial, one that covers working with both the "Objects" tab and "BOGs" tab. I just need to find some good tools to use per making the video. Suggestions are welcome.

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Old 20th January 2022, 15:16   #17  |  Link
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"Double Feature" Blu-ray menus.

I authored (MediaInfo/SubtitleEdit/BDSup2Sub/multiAVCHD/BDRB/PNG Quantizer/BDedit/ImgBurn) the movie, The Abyss (1989) to Blu-ray today. When authoring to Blu-ray I included the "Special Edition" of the film as well. That being said, I decided once again to update BD Rebuilder's Quick-Play menu after the fact using BDedit, this time creating a "Double Feature" type Blu-ray menu, one that I could easily reuse with any given pair of titles. It turned out pretty sweet if I do say so myself. Continue reading to learn more.

Quick-Play menu created by BD Rebuilder...

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The above image is what the Blu-ray menu looked like when created by BD Rebuilder. This was by design of course. The menu backdrop (MENU_BACKDROP_OPACITY=0) was taken out of the mix in this case giving me a blank slate to work with. My only requirements for the Quick-Play menu were that it consist of 2 titles and utilize the menu background I wanted. The first step in my process was to create a Blu-ray menu template of sorts in Photoshop that consisted of all the elements needed for the Blu-ray menu, i.e. the menu background and button images. See below for a picture of what that looks like.


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My goal here was to create a "Double Feature" type Blu-ray menu that could easily be used when authoring any given 2 titles to the same Blu-ray disc. You can probably see where I'm going with this per the above screenshot. I've been wanting to do this for a while now. I just haven't been able to wrap my head around the implemenetation until recently having finally learned my way around BDedit some. I actually suggested the idea of a "Double Feature" Blu-ray menu some time back in the "feature requests" thread here.

So once creating all the Blu-ray menu elements in Photoshop I saved out the individual images for use with the actual Blu-ray menu, the menu background and images I'd be using for the menu buttons. Along the way I took measurements in Photoshop determining the menu button positioning, i.e. the "X" and "Y" values to use in BDedit after the fact once having BD Rebuilder create the Quick-Play menu for me. Note the numbers shown within my layer namings when viewing the above Photoshop (PSD) file at full size. The numbers call out the position and image size for each of the Blu-ray menu elements. Once determining the button positions I transferred the values over to the below excel sheet which I referenced when updating the Button Overlap Groups (BOGs) in BDedit. Also included in my excel sheet are the values to be used for menu navigation, i.e. where does my selection go when navigating up, down, left and right.


(Click on the preview image above to view the full size image.)

With my menu background, button images and Button Overlap Group (BOG) values set on go, I then had BD Rebuilder create the Quick-Play menu for me after which I opened the resulting BDMV folder in BDedit. Using BDedit I accessed the CLIPINF tab selecting the CLPI file (99002) that corresponded with the one and only menu page, then pressing the "Menu" button being taken to the Menu tab. Once at the Menu tab I updated the values under the BOGs tab adding additional BOG groups as needed along the way per my excel sheet.

The Quick-Play menu included 3 objects for each of the buttons used for title selection, i.e. the "Normal (N)", "Selected (S)" and "Activated (A)" images displayed for each button. In this case I'll be using a single image for both Title buttons, both for the "Selected (S)" and "Activated (A)" states in addition to a second image for a hidden button that I'll touch on in a bit. Having already updated the BOG values I then deleted the objects I didn't need retaining only the first 2 objects which I'd be replacing. (BDedit will only let you delete an object after first removing any BOG references made to the object.) With the extra objects removed it was time to replace the images used for the remaining objects with my own images. Prior to doing so I needed to regenerate my images using PNG Quantizer making them BDedit friendly.

("PNG Quantizer is a Command Line tool. It takes a directory of files, generates a palette for all of them, then remaps those images and writes them out to a new directory. The tool is meant to be used for editing Interactive Graphics streams used in Blu-ray menus in association with BDedit." I uploaded PNG Quantizer and the required DLL's to my web space for good measure. The zip file is 8.94 MB and can be downloaded here if needed.)

From the Command Prompt I called to the directory (C:\PNG_Quantizer) where I had placed "PNG_Quantizer.exe" having already placed a copy of my images in the same folder. I then typed, "PNG_Quantizer C:\PNG_Quantizer" pressing enter. PNG Quantizer then processed my images saving an updated copy to a subfolder called, "new". It took just a second or two in this case. I then took the resulting images replacing the original images from the "Objects" tab within BDedit. With all the changes in place I updated my M2TS file (99002) using the "Mux" option, then reloading the "BDMV" folder having BDedit update the CLPI file (99002) for me by accessing the file from the CLIPINF tab. (I describe this is greater detail here.) And just like that, my "Double Feature" Blu-ray menu wish came true. End result shown below.

Quick-Play menu updated using BDedit...

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So here it is. And no, your eyes aren't deceiving you. (Well, maybe they are.) The Blu-ray menu above looks identical to the one created by BD Rebuilder, the only difference being that the QP menu items are no longer present. Well, that's not exactly true. Let me explain. On first load neither version of the film is selected as shown above, the Title buttons not having an image for the "Normal (N)" state. As a result, all you see if the menu background. (The man behind the curtain in this case is a hidden button. It's the hidden button that's selected on first load, the hidden button being fully transparent and used for navigation to the other buttons only.) Navigating right when neither button is selected highlights the "Standard Edition". Navigating left when neither button is selected highlights the "Special Edition", the "Selected (S)" state for each being a hot pink highlight that's 60% transparent. See below.

(The hidden button I just mentioned is the fourth Button Overlap Group as seen from BDedit, i.e. BOG3. The original Quick-Play menu had BOG 1 selected initially when going to the menu. I wanted BOG 3 selected initially instead. As such, the BDMV files had to be updated from the BDMV tab in BDedit to account for that. My excel sheet details the changes made. See here.)

Selected (S) button states...


Once a button is selected navigating left or right accordingly selects the other button. (Left/Right navigation does not wrap around.) When making your selection the same image is displayed for the "Activated (A)" state, playback then beginning. Returning to the menu once playback begins results in the same button being selected. And the icing on the cake, navigating up or down at any time results in neither button being selected as is the case on first load. This provides an unobstructed view of the menu background if so desired.

The great thing about this Blu-ray menu is that the menu background is the only thing that's title specific. As such, any time I have 2 titles I'd like to author to the same Blu-ray disc I can just reuse this Blu-ray menu. I create a new menu background specific to the titles in question for use when importing the titles to BD Rebuilder. Once the Quick-Play menu has been created I just overwrite the "index.bdmv", "MovieObject.bdmv", "99002.clpi" and "99002.m2ts" files with the ones from the Blu-ray menu I created here for "The Abyss". It doesn't get much easier than that. In fact, I just put my Blu-ray menu template to the test working up a "Double Feature" Blu-ray menu for "Grumpy Old Men" and "Grumpier Old Men". Took me all of 10 minutes from start to finish and most of that time was spent looking for cover art to use with the menu background. End result shown below.

Normal (N) button states...

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Selected (S) button states...


For those interested I did upload the above Blu-ray menus to my web space. I included a download for all my assets as well per the below.

Blu-ray menu assets...


In any event, just thought I'd share. Here are the download links.

"The Abyss" QP Menu (984 KB)
"Grumpy Old Men/Grumpier Old Men" QP Menu (1.38 MB)
Double Feature QP Menu Assets (16.4 MB)

And one final note. When zipping up all my assets I didn't include the PNG Quantizer application and debug DLL's. They can be downloaded separately if needed. I provide a download link within my post here, a paragraph or two below the screenshot of the excel sheet. Enjoy!

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Another day, another Quick Play menu given the BDedit treatment. :p

Today I revisited "The Abyss" creating a Blu-ray menu that mirrors, My Movies for Windows Media Center. I browse my Blu-ray collection up on the big screen using My Movies for Windows Media Center. I figured why not continue the theme once loading a given disc and reaching the Blu-ray menu. Sounds logical to me. See below for the full skinny.

Quick Play menu unmodified...


The above image shows the Quick Play menu unmodified. The menu background is a combination of screenshots I took from My Movies for Windows Media Center. I took 3 screenshots total, each showing a different button selected, i.e. "Standard Edition", "Special Edition" and "Cancel". From those 3 screenshots I was able to create the menu background and "Normal (N)" and "Selected (S)" images for each of the buttons. And yes, I created a button for "Cancel" as well. Just couldn't help myself. The image below is what the Blu-ray menu elements look like in Photoshop prior to saving out the individual images.


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Note the numbers shown within the "SEL" layer namings when viewing the above Photoshop (PSD) file at full size. The numbers call out the position (X and Y values) and image size (801x74) for each button. Once determining the button positions I transferred the values over to the below excel sheet which I referenced when updating the Button Overlap Groups (BOGs) in BDedit. (A button overlap group for the "Cancel" button needed to be added, the Navigation Command set to do nothing, i.e. NOP.)


(The values in the "n.start/n.end", "s.start/s.end" and "a.start/a.end" columns define what object, i.e. image is displayed for each button state. In this case I'm using the same image respectively for the "selected" and "activated" button states.)

And here is what the final result looks like. Are we having fun yet? :-P

"Standard Edition" selected...

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"Special Edition" selected...

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"Cancel" selected...

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I must say, the ability to customize IG menus is way cool and I've barely scratched the surface I'm sure. Going to spend some time this week seeing what new tricks I can come up with. In any event, the above Blu-ray menu can be downloaded here for those interested in checking it out. Enjoy!

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You'll see where I'm going with this in a moment. If you'll indulge me. :-P So YouTube shut my channel down in early 2021 without warning stated it was a danger to the public which was total garbage. I lost all my content as a result as I didn't have any of it backed up locally. Well, that's what I thought at the time anyway. It's one small victory nearly a year later, but I'll take it. I spent much of the morning organizing a local copy of the files uploaded to my web space and stumbled onto a video I created back in September of 2019 that I thought was lost forever. It's a tutorial demonstrating how to modify the menu button and page navigation behavior of a Blu-ray menu created with BD Rebuilder using BDedit. I've long washed my hands of anything Google so. Just uploaded the video to my Rumble account. It can be viewed here for those intersted. Enjoy!

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Regarding your latest abyss menu.. Why not having the cover change regarding which of the two versions you select? Anyway, thanks for all the updates
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