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27th October 2003, 15:49 | #183 | Link | |
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Hi Andreas,
have you made some testings with the new emigrator? Quote:
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27th October 2003, 16:21 | #184 | Link |
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No tests yet from my side on the latest built of emigrator
Too much at professional work-place currently ongoing for me I'll wait with further tests until the final Bidule 6.5 is out, which is rumored to offer a warp-speed offline-mode Andreas |
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29th October 2003, 18:02 | #186 | Link |
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You might want to try your preference from the following list. They have been reported in the quadraphonicquad forum section to give impressive surround effects when played back through various high end decoders. I'm sure this is a good starting-point for the Ambisonic method(s)
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Aphrodite's Child -666 - 1969 Vertigo LP - 838 430-2 Beasty Boys-Hello Nasty QS Decoder Beatles - Revolver (especially "Tomorrow Never Knows") QS Decoder Beatles - Sgt Pepper QS Decoder Beatles - Magical Mystery Tour (except Walrus) QS Decoder Beatles - White Album QS Decoder Beatles - Yellow Submarine Original version- QS Decoder Big Brother And The Holding Co - Cheap Thrills QSD-1 Blue Cheer - Outside Inside QSD-1 Captain Beefheart-Trout Mask Replica SQ Decoder Paula Cole - This Fire SQ Logic John Cooper Clarke - Best Of SQ Logic Julian Cope-Rite 1, Rite 2, Rite Now Sansui Variomatrix-Surround setting Julian Cope - St. Julian QSD-1 Dead Can Dance-Into The Labyrinth Sansui Variomatrix-Surround Setting Thomas Dolby- She Blinded Me With Science QSD-1 Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited QS decoder Bob Dylan - Blonde On Blonde QS decoder Fleetwood Mac - Then Play On QSD-1 Fortran 5 - Bad Head Park Tate II, surround mode John Foxx- Metamatic Virgin CDV2146 QS decoder-Surround Setting Peter Gabriel - Secret World Live SQ Logic Rory Gallagher - Wheels within Wheels (2nd half of album) SQ Logic Rory Gallagher - Let's Go To Work (Box Set) SQ Logic Godspeed You Black Emperor-F#A# Sansui Variomatrix-Surround setting Grateful Dead - Anthem Of The Sun QSD-1 Joji Hirota -The Gate SQ Logic Iron Maiden - Dance of Death Sansui Variomatrix-Surround setting Jefferson Airplane - After Bathing At Baxter's QSD-1 Jimi Hendrix-Are You Experienced? Sansui Variomatrix-Surround setting Jimi Hendrix-Electric Ladyland Sansui Variomatrix-Surround setting Jimi Hendrix Experience - Axis Bold As Love QSD-1 Jethro Tull-Benefit QSD-1 King Crimson-In The Wake Of Poseiden Sansui Variomatrix-Surround setting Paul McCartney-Ram QS Decoder Monster Magnet - Powertrip QSD-1 Moody Blues - In Search Of The Lost Chord QSD-1 The Mothers of Invention -Uncle Meat QS Decoder 1968 Bizarre/Warner Reprise LP - 2MS 2024 Nektar - Journey To The Center Of The Eye QSD-1 John Parish and Polly Jean Harvey-Dance Hall at Louse Point Sansui Variomatrix-Surround setting Pink Floyd-Piper At The Gates of Dawn Sansui Variomatrix-Surround setting Pink Floyd-Pompeii Sessions Sansui Variomatrix-Surround setting Pink Floyd-Saucerful of Secrets Sansui Variomatrix-Surround setting Pink Floyd-Ummagumma (studio sides) Sansui Variomatrix-Surround setting Robert Plant & the Strange Sensation - Dreamland SQ Logic Procol Harum - A Salty Dog QSD-1 Psychedelic Furs - Book Of Days QSD-1 Radiohead - Hail To The Thief Tate II, surround mode Rolling Stones - Their Satanic Majesties Royal Request QS Decoder The Sensational Alex Harvey Band - Rock Drill SQ Logic Simon And Garfunkel - Bookends QS Decoder Soundgarden - A-Sides QSD-1, surround mode Spirit - The Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus QSD-1 Tangerine Dream-Alpha Centuri Sansui Variomatrix-Surround setting Tangerine Dream-Zeit Sansui Variomatrix-Surround setting United States Of America - United States Of America QS Decoder - 1967 Columbia LP CS9614 Andreas Vollenweider - Book of Roses SQ Logic Andreas Vollenweider - White Winds SQ Logic Andreas Vollenweider - Dancing With the Lion SQ Logic Rick Wakeman & The English Rock Ensemble-Out of the Blue Sansui Variomatrix-Surround setting Yes-Tales From Topographic Oceans Sansui Variomatrix-Surround setting Frank Zappa-Lumpy Gravy Tate-SQ Mode Andreas |
12th November 2003, 00:34 | #189 | Link |
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As a newbie to this technique I'd like to clarify one thing ?
Is it important to convert...16bit 44.1khz material that I rip from audio cd's to 32 bit before playing it through Bidule ? I did mix a few Queen albums ( Queen and Queen II ) with ambisonics as a test and created a DTS-cd combining the two using this guide. Most of the mixes hardly gained anything from it with the exception of a few songs (shame really), mind me I have the oldest remasters of the set that are said to be poor compared to the current 24bit remasters. (I actually prefer my vinyl versions to the cd's I have..they are that..cold sounding) But as a plus side. Live recordings sounds really nice usually in ambisonics...or whatever the proper term for this would be. Ambi-dts ? I tested on several stereo sourced fm-radio broadcast recordings and other quality live material with stereo separation (fm/soundboard sourced bootlegs mainly) and was pleased with what I heard. Anyone done any experimenting with their BPAN etc settings for live recordings etc ? I'm curious to what has given good results other than the default settings displayed on this guide. Thanks. And a big thank you to 'Eye of Horus' for this guide. |
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link from Maxiuca posted here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...e&pagenumber=2 maybe is working: http://tommers.w.interia.pl/wav2wav6.zip http://akson.sgh.waw.pl/~wj23277/wav2wav6.zip |
15th November 2003, 03:31 | #192 | Link |
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Gradius...did you ever solve your problem?
Peter C... I'm experimenting right now with some live stuff, but I haven't really manipulated any of the ambisonic settings. I had to run the wav through cool edit to try and clear up the muddle of the mid-range, first, but I'm having trouble cleaning up. I don't experiment with the ambisonic settings because in order to hear the results I have to burn it, and I went through too many CDs, too fast. What live stuff are you working with? ROIOs? Eye of Horus...if you get the chance to read this...do you think you can convince Eric to do another APP album in ambisonics? Better yet, bring him here and ask him to post. |
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Just came back from a radio recording in the studios in Hilversum - the Netherlands. Had an excellent time with Eric ! But..... did not ask this :-( Well..... pictures will be on the website within a few hours ! grtz, EoH |
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24th November 2003, 18:45 | #197 | Link | |
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However for questions about the usage on bidule in the context of a 5.1 mix, here is fine. To answer the question though we will release 0.6500 final before the first half of december. I might include the "Offline rendering" mode. |
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24th November 2003, 21:26 | #198 | Link | |
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25th November 2003, 06:57 | #199 | Link |
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Thanks for the reply, David. I can't WAIT for that offline rendering mode!
Yup. EoH already got the guide written up... You know, guys, I've been using Virtual Microphone almost exclusively after processing through Bidule. The way I've been doing it is to just record the 4 channels that come out of bfprocedit as a wxyz file, then run it through VVM with the master gain at 3.1, using the 5.1 option (and the link boxes checked). VVM is FAST! Spits out 6 mono files in no time at all. Gotta shut it down after about 4 big conversions and start it right back up, though. I guess it's not releasing the memory, but the speed of the program MORE than cancels this out as an annoyance. Starts up fast and processes fast. I'm not saying it's better than Besweet. You can customize your output a lot more intricately with Besweet, if you need to (and I have/do, with the DVD wavs). Sometimes I find the final dts wav sounds better if I leave the subwoofer out (as in the original method, especially for live Floyd, anyway), but I assign the wavs as FL = 1 FR = 3 C = 2 SUB = 4 (if I use it at all) SL = 5 SR = 6 I'd be interested to hear what others think of this program. Last edited by Umma; 25th November 2003 at 07:18. |
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