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3rd November 2024, 13:45 | #21 | Link | |
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3rd November 2024, 14:34 | #23 | Link |
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|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | CPU | AMD Ryzen 3 2200G with Radeon Vega Graphics |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 342.661 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 456.775 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 621.730 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 828.223 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 2176.045 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- |
3rd November 2024, 18:25 | #24 | Link | |
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My RAM was even slower than I thought, accidentally it was @3600 , @4800: Code:
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | CPU | Ryzen 9 7950X 16-Core Processor |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 37.496 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 44.487 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 56.433 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 85.840 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 248.640 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- Code:
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | CPU | Ryzen 9 7950X 16-Core Processor |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 36.231 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 44.252 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 55.768 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 84.954 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 247.151 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- Last edited by Selur; 3rd November 2024 at 19:31. |
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Anyway run RAM at 6400 Mhz is useless. The sweet spot for Zen 4 is 6000 Mhz and could be really stable with same synchronisation for RAM and CPU. Have higher speed for RAM is useless and even negative for performances. If 6000 Mbps isn't stable at default EXPO, Higher CAS Latency will be better for performances than RAM-CPU desynchronisation. In any case, this bench will have been very useful for you Selur: your CPU was not at good peak performance.
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According to AMD, 6000 is the "sweet spot", I'm currently running 32x2 at 6000 MT/s with no problem. |
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7th November 2024, 19:29 | #27 | Link |
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My 7950X is lame
Or is it the result of having too many background programs running Code:
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | CPU | Ryzen 9 7950X 16-Core Processor |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 36.081 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 45.244 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 56.145 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 91.032 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 264.344 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- Last edited by Z2697; 7th November 2024 at 19:32. |
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Crank up the fan and leave the computer undisturbed (background programs are limited not completely closed)
I'm planning on 9950X upgrade, gotta do a better comparison when that happens, and perhaps compare that "awful" inter CCD latency with the corresponding AGESA fix. Code:
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | CPU | Ryzen 9 7950X 16-Core Processor |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 35.127 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 43.569 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 53.986 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 87.040 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- | Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 250.485 s |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- Last edited by Z2697; 7th November 2024 at 20:13. |
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2) 9800X3D is by far better than 9700x (105W bios) in SVT-AV1 encoding test: 3) 9950X3D will be not like 7950X3D. Frenquency will be the same than 9950X with optimized 3D V-Cache installation in CPU package.
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The 9700X in the test had a 65W TDP. Here the test of 105W mode: https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-9600x-9700x-105w/6 Which means 9800X3D and 9700X at the same TDP are roughly the same for the tasks that do not require gobbles of L3 cache. Also this: |
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8th November 2024, 20:54 | #34 | Link | |
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And you speak about Phoronix: Phoronix make test for 9700X (at 105W) and 9800X3D for SVT-AV1 for 1080p in mono scession encoding and 9800X3D is simply the best CPU in area. 3D V-Cache seem have enormous impact for modern codec.
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The price difference on the other hand? Yeah, absolutely, more than 50%. Are you ready to pay 50% more to get 9% faster encoding? I am not. |
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9% more fps is enormous, and of course 50% on price is more enormous.
Those things aside, svt-av1 preset 13? I'll give a big big question mark here, seriously? Preset 13? What? Now I can understand where "9700X vs 14700K +42% handbrake performance" in AMD's Zen5 publication comes from LOL. Last edited by Z2697; 8th November 2024 at 22:28. |
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1) Well it's not me that speak about phoronix ... ;-) 2) It's not me that say 3D V-Cache have no impact for encoding ... ;-) 3) 9950X3D will be certainely the best CPU in area for multipart encoding or ABR ladder encoding scenario (full charge CPU at 100% like for my benchmark) 4) It's possible to have more than 9%:
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For aomenc / libaom-av1, speed 8 / cpu-used 8 (whatever they are called) realtime is also just the fastest, lowest quality preset you have in that encoder.
All those things aside, the both results you posted do show one thing: V-Cache parts of Zen4 tends to have lower encoding speed compared to non-V-Cache parts, but for Zen5 things are different, even quite a lot in specific cases. Specific cases, being the keyword here. When I see something like 13600K being faster than 14900K, I'd think the result is highly unreliable. Last edited by Z2697; 9th November 2024 at 00:37. |
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My benchmark have not this problem (For Linux or Windows) because you sature all CPU at least with 32 threads and more if I want (I can saturate at 100% AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 7995WX with 192 threads for all codecs). I believe this is the only codec benchmark that can do this with H264, H265, H266 and SVT-AV1.
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