Dogway's Filters Packs

[poisondeathray]

Originally Posted by FTLOY

SDK or Runtime ?

Vulkan device. Look under Requirements
https://github.com/Asd-g/AviSynthPlus-RIFE

[kedautinh12]

Originally Posted by FTLOY

SDK or Runtime ?

If you install GPU driver, it's will support Vulkan

[FTLOY]

Originally Posted by poisondeathray

Vulkan device. Look under Requirements
https://github.com/Asd-g/AviSynthPlus-RIFE

I've got ALL them !

[kedautinh12]

So that slow cause this plugin very slow and only fast with high-end GPU card

[FTLOY]

So there's been several updates of Dogway's filters...

SMDegrain, Extools, Grade Pack & Resizers Pack.

Can someone please clarify, does SMDegrain (or others) use GPU or CPU filter processing by default ?

[kedautinh12]

Originally Posted by FTLOY

So there's been several updates of Dogway's filters...

SMDegrain, Extools, Grade Pack & Resizers Pack.

Can someone please clarify, does SMDegrain (or others) use GPU or CPU filter processing by default ?

He prefer speed. If GPU plugins ver faster than CPU ver, he will use it

[FTLOY]

Originally Posted by kedautinh12

He prefer speed. If GPU plugins ver faster than CPU ver, he will use it

So would an RTX 3050 / 3060 process faster than a 13900K ?

[kedautinh12]

Originally Posted by FTLOY

So would an RTX 3050 / 3060 process faster than a 13900K ?

It's base test from one by one

[FTLOY]

Originally Posted by kedautinh12

It's base test from one by one

So you're saying to test each filter, and see what's best for the user ?

That means changing a couple of settings in SMDegrain.avsi (the gpuid, from 0 for GPU, to -1 for CPU)

[LeXXuz]

Originally Posted by FTLOY

So would an RTX 3050 / 3060 process faster than a 13900K ?

From my experience: KNLmeansCL and BM3D surely will run faster on a RTX 30 card. DGDenoise needs a Nvidia GPU to run at all anyway.

If you think about buying one, do NOT go for a 3050 or 3060 8GB with 128bit memory bus. They are significantly slower than a 3060 with 192bit mem bus. Learned this the hard way.

[FTLOY]

Originally Posted by LeXXuz

From my experience: KNLmeansCL and BM3D surely will run faster on a RTX 30 card. DGDenoise needs a Nvidia GPU to run at all anyway.

If you think about buying one, do NOT go for a 3050 or 3060 8GB with 128bit memory bus. They are significantly slower than a 3060 with 192bit mem bus. Learned this the hard way.

Well, fortunately I don't use those filters...I'm more curious if even using the "lesser" filters, like MinBlur, and just basic SMDegrain filters use the GPU or CPU...from what I've been able to understand, the gpuid of SMDegrain by default is "0", which is a GPU.

And I just checked my RTX's, and they are only 128bit

[LeXXuz]

Originally Posted by FTLOY

Well, fortunately I don't use those filters...I'm more curious if even using the "lesser" filters, like MinBlur, and just basic SMDegrain filters use the GPU or CPU...from what I've been able to understand, the gpuid of SMDegrain by default is "0", which is a GPU.

SMDegrain does not use GPU in general, the setting may be a little misleading.

Only for some prefilters like the aforementioned and subpixel processing if you explicitly use subpixel=4 (with gpu=0) which means you use GPU based NNEDI3CL. See its dependencies section at the very beginning of the script.

If you don't use subpixel=4, or prefilter=6,7,8 it will not make any difference if you set gpu=0 or -1. Everything else is CPU processed to my knowledge.

I think Dogway set gpu=0 by default, so unexperienced users will use the faster GPU based processing automatically IF they choose to use any of those prefilters or subpixel processing.

Originally Posted by FTLOY

And I just checked my RTX's, and they are only 128bit

Don't get me wrong. They will still be faster than processing BM3D or KNLM entirely on CPU. But they are not as fast as a 3060 12GB / 3060TI 8GB and above.
My advice was only for people who think about buying a new graphics card. For those it means: stay away from RTX 3050 and RTX 3060 8GB. Buy a RTX 3060 12GB or RTX 3060TI 8GB instead.

[FTLOY]

Originally Posted by LeXXuz

SMDegrain does not use GPU in general, the setting may be a little misleading.

Only for some prefilters like the aforementioned and subpixel processing if you explicitly use subpixel=4 (with gpu=0) which means you use GPU based NNEDI3CL. See its dependencies section at the very beginning of the script.

If you don't use subpixel=4, or prefilter=6,7,8 it will not make any difference if you set gpu=0 or -1. Everything else is CPU processed to my knowledge.

I think Dogway set gpu=0 by default, so unexperienced users will use the faster GPU based processing automatically IF they choose to use any of those prefilters or subpixel processing.



Don't get me wrong. They will still be faster than processing BM3D or KNLM entirely on CPU. But they are not as fast as a 3060 12GB / 3060TI 8GB and above.
My advice was only for people who think about buying a new graphics card. For those it means: stay away from RTX 3050 and RTX 3060 8GB. Buy a RTX 3060 12GB or RTX 3060TI 8GB instead.

Thankyou for all that info...and like I said, I very rarely use those higher filters, and I'm quite happy with the newer Median options recently added, so my RTX's will be fine...anything more hi-end, is so much more $'s

Originally Posted by LeXXuz

Yes, you can adjust the "strength" by adjusting the opacity of the blend somewhere between 0 (no denoise filter effect) and 1.0 (full denoise filter effect)

But if you have just some fine grain better use something different like STTWM. Dogway provided examples for that some posts above and they can also be found in his ExTools package ~line 2194.

hi LeXXuz,

to use STTWM as prefilter i should skip below
pre=ex_Median(mode="IQMST",thres=155)
ex_blend(pre,"blend",opacity=0.3).ex_sbr(1,UV=3)

and replace it by one of below?

# STTWM(sw=20,tw=80,aw=100,sthres=255,tthres=7) # Strong temporal
# STTWM(sw=40,tw=60,aw=100,sthres=255,tthres=5) # Strong spatial
pre= STTWM(sw=50,tw=50,aw=100,sthres= 5,tthres=5) # Balanced
# STTWM(sw=50,tw=50,aw= 10,sthres= 5,tthres=5) # Light

[LeXXuz]

Originally Posted by madey83

hi LeXXuz,

to use STTWM as prefilter i should skip below
pre=ex_Median(mode="IQMST",thres=155)
ex_blend(pre,"blend",opacity=0.3).ex_sbr(1,UV=3)

and replace it by one of below?

# STTWM(sw=20,tw=80,aw=100,sthres=255,tthres=7) # Strong temporal
# STTWM(sw=40,tw=60,aw=100,sthres=255,tthres=5) # Strong spatial
pre= STTWM(sw=50,tw=50,aw=100,sthres= 5,tthres=5) # Balanced
# STTWM(sw=50,tw=50,aw= 10,sthres= 5,tthres=5) # Light

Yes. And if you want to use it as prefilter for SMDegrain I would use it without ex_blend for most cases as it is way more subtle than ex_median with IQMST setting.

Originally Posted by LeXXuz

Yes. And if you want to use it as prefilter for SMDegrain I would use it without ex_blend for most cases as it is way more subtle than ex_median with IQMST setting.

i'm not really sure what you mean. Could you please provide example code for your suggestion?

i see from my test that this pre= STTWM(sw=50,tw=50,aw=100,sthres= 5,tthres=5) # Balanced

have more details but keep also some grain compare to below

pre=ex_Median(mode="IQMST",thres=15)
ex_blend(pre,"blend",opacity=0.2).ex_sbr(1,UV=3)

i'm very happy with resoults of this STTWM(sw=50,tw=50,aw=100,sthres= 5,tthres=5) # Balanced, but i would like to know how to adjust it strengh.

STTWM i can adjust it strengh by rising these sthres= 5, tthres=5 ?

[LeXXuz]

If you use it as a prefilter within SMDegrain you may use this:

pre=STTWM(sw=50,tw=50,aw=100,sthres= 5,tthres=5).ex_sbr(1,UV=3)
SMDegrain("your settings here", prefilter=pre)

STTWM is way less invasive so I don't think there is need for the additional strength adjustment via ex_blend like you may had to use with IQMST before.

If the filtering is too weak try raising "thSAD" and/or "tr" of SMDegrain a little.
If that is not enought the grain of your source may be too strong for STTWM or you need a different prefilter.

In that case try ex_Minblur or ex_Median with "IQM" via the internal prefilters 0-3 if IQMST is too strong and STTWM is too weak for your source.

Originally Posted by LeXXuz

If you use it as a prefilter within SMDegrain you may use this:

pre=STTWM(sw=50,tw=50,aw=100,sthres= 5,tthres=5).ex_sbr(1,UV=3)
SMDegrain("your settings here", prefilter=pre)

STTWM is way less invasive so I don't think there is need for the additional strength adjustment via ex_blend like you may had to use with IQMST before.

If the filtering is too weak try raising "thSAD" and/or "tr" of SMDegrain a little.
If that is not enought the grain of your source may be too strong for STTWM or you need a different prefilter.

In that case try ex_Minblur or ex_Median with "IQM" via the internal prefilters 0-3 if IQMST is too strong and STTWM is too weak for your source.

edit: Results are very nice with higher TR

For sharpening i use this call:
LSFplus(strength=50, preset="LSF", secure=true, Lmode=3, soft=-2, soothe=true, Smode=3, Smethod=3, Szrp=16, Spwr=4, SdmpLo=4, SdmpHi=48, overshoot=1, undershoot=1, Overshoot2=1, Undershoot2=1, keep=20, edgemode=0)

is it any possibility to improve it or replace it by better approach for sharpening?

Could you advice please....

[LeXXuz]

I hardly use Limited Sharpen anymore. I don't like the results, especially on HD sources.

I use contrasharp=true within SMDegrain. And if that is too strong, something more subtle like ex_unsharp() with lower settings after SMDegrain.

try:

SMDegrain(...)
ex_unsharp(0.3) for clean anime

and a double call for films, like:

SMDegrain(...)
ex_unsharp(0.15).ex_unsharp(0.15, Fc=width()/1.5)

The first example sharpens the entire picture the same way, while the 2nd sharpens higher frequencies less to prevent residual grain from being enhanced too much again.