Welcome to Doom9's Forum, THE in-place to be for everyone interested in DVD conversion.

Before you start posting please read the forum rules. By posting to this forum you agree to abide by the rules.

 

Go Back   Doom9's Forum > (HD) DVD, Blu-ray & (S)VCD > DVD & BD Rebuilder

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 20th June 2021, 23:15   #30681  |  Link
Lowpro
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 192
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrVideo View Post
BDRB should be able to all that for you instead. Having to use BDEdit is overkill. JD said that he is looking into it.
I use BDedit to customize my Blu-ray menus in a number of ways. It's not overkill to take one extra minute while I'm in BDedit anyway to reposition a few menu buttons. I enjoy using the application and don't expect BDRB to check every box for me. If JD updates BDRB in some way that results in me spending less time in BDedit that's great. If not, I'm still able to produce the end result I'm looking for now. That's the exact attitude I'm imagine JD welcomes with respects to his application and those that use it.
Lowpro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st June 2021, 02:38   #30682  |  Link
MrVideo
Registered User
 
MrVideo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2,132
Off topic, a little bit.. @Lowpro, what software did you use to get the screen grabs of the complete menus?
MrVideo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd June 2021, 21:59   #30683  |  Link
Lowpro
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 192
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrVideo View Post
Off topic, a little bit.. @Lowpro, what software did you use to get the screen grabs of the complete menus?
I use TotalMedia Theatre 3. I've got an old Windows XP desktop that still has it installed. Comes in handy.
Lowpro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd June 2021, 01:13   #30684  |  Link
MrVideo
Registered User
 
MrVideo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2,132
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lowpro View Post
I use TotalMedia Theatre 3. I've got an old Windows XP desktop that still has it installed. Comes in handy.
I kinda figured it was something like that. Thanks for the info.
MrVideo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th June 2021, 09:10   #30685  |  Link
MrVideo
Registered User
 
MrVideo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2,132
@JD: Here's one for ya... the main video of a UHD disc is 93.78GB. The target is a 25B disc. After re-encoding, that video is 70.23GB. Not exactly the right size to fit on a 25B disc. There were zero errors in the log. All went as it was supposed to, except that the wrong size was the result. This one might be a little tough to figure out when there are zero errors that can be used as hints.
MrVideo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2021, 23:34   #30686  |  Link
jdobbs
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 20,975
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrVideo View Post
@JD: Here's one for ya... the main video of a UHD disc is 93.78GB. The target is a 25B disc. After re-encoding, that video is 70.23GB. Not exactly the right size to fit on a 25B disc. There were zero errors in the log. All went as it was supposed to, except that the wrong size was the result. This one might be a little tough to figure out when there are zero errors that can be used as hints.
Can you post your settings? That way I can try them on a similar disc. Maybe I will able to repeat it.
__________________
Help with development of new apps: Donations.
Website: www.jdobbs.net
jdobbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th June 2021, 03:52   #30687  |  Link
MrVideo
Registered User
 
MrVideo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2,132
OK, here is BDREBUIKDER.INI:
Code:
[Options]
VERSION=0.61.0.22
ENCODER=1
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
NVENC_CAPABLE=1
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=0
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AUDIO_DRC=0
DECODER=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
PGSTOSRT=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=F:\BD-REBUILDER\WORK\
SOURCE_PATH=E:\
What I find a little interesting is that "CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500" does not equal what the log reports as the target size: 22.95 GB.
MrVideo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th June 2021, 13:10   #30688  |  Link
gonca
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,213
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrVideo View Post
What I find a little interesting is that "CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500" does not equal what the log reports as the target size: 22.95 GB.
22.95GB x 1024= 23500MB

I think that Jd uses the normal binary conventions

Last edited by gonca; 26th June 2021 at 13:14.
gonca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th June 2021, 20:03   #30689  |  Link
MrVideo
Registered User
 
MrVideo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2,132
You would think that you would use one method over the other, but not both. Makes for a little confusion.
MrVideo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th June 2021, 13:31   #30690  |  Link
jdobbs
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 20,975
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrVideo View Post
You would think that you would use one method over the other, but not both. Makes for a little confusion.
There is only one. Computers don't care how many fingers there are on two hands. They exist in a binary world.
__________________
Help with development of new apps: Donations.
Website: www.jdobbs.net
jdobbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th June 2021, 22:43   #30691  |  Link
MrVideo
Registered User
 
MrVideo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2,132
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdobbs View Post
There is only one. Computers don't care how many fingers there are on two hands. They exist in a binary world.
Right, but in one place you use the left hand and in another you use the right. Why not use the same counting system in both places?
MrVideo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th June 2021, 00:30   #30692  |  Link
gonca
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,213
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrVideo View Post
Right, but in one place you use the left hand and in another you use the right. Why not use the same counting system in both places?
Are you referring to binary/decimal or GB/MB?
gonca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th June 2021, 06:28   #30693  |  Link
MrVideo
Registered User
 
MrVideo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2,132
Quote:
Originally Posted by gonca View Post
Are you referring to binary/decimal or GB/MB?
GB/MB, as seen in the original post regarding this.
MrVideo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th June 2021, 14:26   #30694  |  Link
jdobbs
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 20,975
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrVideo View Post
GB/MB, as seen in the original post regarding this.
So you're saying you don't like the fact that one is in GB and the other is in MB?

Those are both the same counting system.

That's like saying "In one place you say '.5 million' and in the other you say '500 thousand'. Which is it?"
__________________
Help with development of new apps: Donations.
Website: www.jdobbs.net

Last edited by jdobbs; 30th June 2021 at 14:37.
jdobbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th June 2021, 17:28   #30695  |  Link
cartman0208
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Germany
Posts: 205
I'd guess the "better" human readable format would be in GB in this case, as in the logs.
For the config you would definetely use something without punctuation ... which gets us to MB
cartman0208 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th June 2021, 20:34   #30696  |  Link
jdobbs
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 20,975
Quote:
Originally Posted by cartman0208 View Post
I'd guess the "better" human readable format would be in GB in this case, as in the logs.
For the config you would definetely use something without punctuation ... which gets us to MB
Yeah. If, when reading it, you use GB you then have to account for whether a certain country uses a "," or "." (or others) as the decimal separator.
__________________
Help with development of new apps: Donations.
Website: www.jdobbs.net

Last edited by jdobbs; 30th June 2021 at 20:38.
jdobbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st July 2021, 03:49   #30697  |  Link
MrVideo
Registered User
 
MrVideo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2,132
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdobbs View Post
Yeah. If, when reading it, you use GB you then have to account for whether a certain country uses a "," or "." (or others) as the decimal separator.
The log does use the "." as the separator. The point is that if you add the "." to 23500, you get 23.5 GB. But, the log says 22.95 GB. As gonca points out, one value is 1000 based while the other is 1024 based. What I am requesting is that the same base be used in both locations. Or at least use/add the correct terminology for what is being used:
Code:
Kilobyte (KB)	1000¹ = 1,000
Megabyte (MB)	1000² = 1,000,000
Gigabyte (GB)	1000³ = 1,000,000,000
Terabyte (TB)	1000⁴ = 1,000,000,000,000
Petabyte (PB)	1000⁵ = 1,000,000,000,000,000
 	 
Kibibyte (KiB)	1024¹ = 1,024
Mebibyte (MiB)	1024² = 1,048,576
Gibibyte (GiB)	1024³ = 1,073,741,824
Tebibyte (TiB)	1024⁴ = 1,099,511,627,776
Pebibyte (PiB)	1024⁵ = 1,125,899,906,842,624
MrVideo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st July 2021, 13:47   #30698  |  Link
gonca
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,213
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrVideo View Post
As gonca points out, one value is 1000 based while the other is 1024 based.[/code]
Not quite.
Both values are based on 1024 (binary system).
Just the GB and MB differ

Never pointed out that one value is 1000 based while other is 1024 based. Would make absolutely no sense to do that.
I also mentioned that Jd prefers the binary (1024) convention

In binary 1024 MB does equal 1 GB
Kilo/Mega/Giga etc was originally binary
Somewhere along the way it was altered to be decimal (HDD manufacturers might have had something to do with it)
and this silly Gibi/Kibi stuff was introduced

Yeah, I prefer the binary convention myself

Last edited by gonca; 1st July 2021 at 13:51.
gonca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st July 2021, 13:53   #30699  |  Link
gonca
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,213
@Jdobbs
Welcome to the rabbit hole.
gonca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st July 2021, 14:19   #30700  |  Link
jdobbs
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 20,975
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrVideo View Post
The log does use the "." as the separator. The point is that if you add the "." to 23500, you get 23.5 GB. But, the log says 22.95 GB. As gonca points out, one value is 1000 based while the other is 1024 based. What I am requesting is that the same base be used in both locations. Or at least use/add the correct terminology for what is being used:
Code:
Kilobyte (KB)	1000¹ = 1,000
Megabyte (MB)	1000² = 1,000,000
Gigabyte (GB)	1000³ = 1,000,000,000
Terabyte (TB)	1000⁴ = 1,000,000,000,000
Petabyte (PB)	1000⁵ = 1,000,000,000,000,000
 	 
Kibibyte (KiB)	1024¹ = 1,024
Mebibyte (MiB)	1024² = 1,048,576
Gibibyte (GiB)	1024³ = 1,073,741,824
Tebibyte (TiB)	1024⁴ = 1,099,511,627,776
Pebibyte (PiB)	1024⁵ = 1,125,899,906,842,624
Wrong. And the "Kibi" bullshit is nonsense made up by people who know nothing. I've been doing this for over 40 years (and have taught computer science at the collegiate level) -- and a Kilobyte has always been 1024, and in the real world it always will be, no matter what some new-age "I can't comprehend binary" limp-dick says.

Period.
__________________
Help with development of new apps: Donations.
Website: www.jdobbs.net

Last edited by jdobbs; 1st July 2021 at 14:53.
jdobbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:52.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.