Media Player Classic - BE Win32/x64

[Aleksoid1978]

Originally Posted by slipd

Is there any problem with having a bigger limit like MPC-HC and Zoom Player have? This low limit's the only thing keeping me from switching to MPC-BE since BE keeps forgetting my position in older videos.

Ok - using MPC-HC/Zoom Player

[mogli]

Originally Posted by mogli

[…]
Also most youtube videos don't work for me anymore, hope it isn't related: The title and duration of the video is immediately found and shown in the playlist but it doesn't start and after a short time it says 'invalid' and 'file not found'. example youtube video

It's that time again. YT is really annoying.

[Aleksoid1978]

Originally Posted by mogli

It's that time again. YT is really annoying.

Working good.

[mogli]

Still broken in build 6157. Worked fine 2 or 3 days ago.

[Grimsdyke]

mogli's youtube file does not play here on my system either.

[Aleksoid1978]

Play for me - https://i.imgur.com/hb88oSX.png.

[Klaus1189]

I tried it here, too. Some youtube videos work fine, but the video mogli posted doesn't work. Perhaps a regional thing, I mean dependent of country? Since Aleksoid1978 can open it without problem.

[patul]

Originally Posted by Aleksoid1978

Play for me - https://i.imgur.com/hb88oSX.png.

Worked for me too. With either File Source (URL) or LAV Splitter Source.

[Aleksoid1978]

Working with internal filters.

[patul]

I used LAV

Filters currently loaded:
  - Default DirectSound Device
  - Enhanced Video Renderer
  - Audio Switcher
  - LAV Video Decoder
  - LAV Audio Decoder
  - LAV Splitter Source
  - LAV Splitter Source

[Aleksoid1978]

Originally Posted by patul

I used LAV

Filters currently loaded:
  - Default DirectSound Device
  - Enhanced Video Renderer
  - Audio Switcher
  - LAV Video Decoder
  - LAV Audio Decoder
  - LAV Splitter Source
  - LAV Splitter Source

Ok - so what ? Use what you want

[patul]

Originally Posted by Aleksoid1978

Ok - so what ? Use what you want

Please don't get me wrong, I just want to show mogli, it worked using both internal and external filters. I use internal filters most of the time for MPC-BE.

[mogli]

This has nothing to do with filters. MPC-BE is unable to get the direct links for the video and audio files, again.

[Klaus1189]

Could you provide perhaps a debug logging build to see what is going on? Log is uploaded to filehoster then.

[Sunspark]

Hi,

I have installed 1.5.6.6000 for the purpose of testing out different video renderers, looks good.

I believe I have come across a bug when using the internal MPC-BE video decoder when it sends the output to MadVR as the video renderer. What is happening is that it is displaying a flashing black screen. The reason for this is because the queues are being drained to 0. This effect does not happen when using the LAV decoder on MPC-HC. Observing the HUD as this occurs in MPC-BE, I see it flipping back and forth between "D3D9 fullscreen windowed (new path)" and "D3D9 exclusive (new path)" so something is fighting for control here.

[v0lt]

@Sunspark
Try the nightly builds.

[Sunspark]

Originally Posted by v0lt

Try the nightly builds.

Thanks, I gave 1.5.7.6158 a try but the problem is still there. It still flashes and the queues are empty, though it doesn't anymore say intermittently D3D9 exclusive.

I notice something else in the HUD too, it's saying the scaling being used for image size and chroma is not what is set to (DXVA) but a different algorithm instead so that makes me think something is acting as a blocker for the DXVA scaler choice.

I tried an experiment, I changed it away from DXVA to Jinc and when it started it said Jinc on the HUD, but as soon as the flashes began it started saying Bilinear.

I unchecked fullscreen exclusive, and the flashes stopped, but it stayed on bilinear instead of jinc. Presentation queue mostly at 0-3 sometimes 1-3, rendering time much higher than it should be and not indicating the presence of dxva type presentation device in the hud.

[Aleksoid1978]

Originally Posted by Sunspark

Thanks, I gave 1.5.7.6158 a try but the problem is still there. It still flashes and the queues are empty, though it doesn't anymore say intermittently D3D9 exclusive.

I notice something else in the HUD too, it's saying the scaling being used for image size and chroma is not what is set to (DXVA) but a different algorithm instead so that makes me think something is acting as a blocker for the DXVA scaler choice.

I tried an experiment, I changed it away from DXVA to Jinc and when it started it said Jinc on the HUD, but as soon as the flashes began it started saying Bilinear.

I unchecked fullscreen exclusive, and the flashes stopped, but it stayed on bilinear instead of jinc. Presentation queue mostly at 0-3 sometimes 1-3, rendering time much higher than it should be and not indicating the presence of dxva type presentation device in the hud.

Try D3D11 Native + D3D11 Exclusive ?

[Sunspark]

Originally Posted by Aleksoid1978

Try D3D11 Native + D3D11 Exclusive ?

That's the thing.. this experimentation is being done using the internal MPC-BE decoder not LAV or something else. I haven't installed LAV into MPC-BE, I think if I did it would work, but I wanted to try a different decoder.

I just now unchecked "Use D3D11 decoder" in the options, but it didn't resolve the issue.

I think at the time of this writing on an Intel GPU (HD Graphics 6000 on a Broadwell CPU) that the MPC-BE decoder is not compatible with the MadVR renderer.

It does work fine with EVR-CP.

Update: Turning D3D11 on in the MadVR options resolved the flashing and queues draining issue. So this tells me that the code path in the decoder will work for D3D11 but not D3D9. This GPU is older and is more optimized for D3D9 so those testing this configuration should not use MadVR in the current version of the player if they want to use D3D9.
Unchecking Use D3D11 decoder but leaving MadVR set for D3D11 will display DXVA2 for the colour transformation and D3D11 for the presentation mode but not possible to have a fully D3D9 path.

[hubi73]

The Youtube issue occurred on the same day (around march 31) that Google introduced a new cookie consent dialog.

Youtube-DL was also affected, but they fixed it in the 2021.04.01 release.
Presumably they just set a consent cookie:
https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-...5daa8d2f58cda6