next generation Windows

Jamaika · 3rd June 2021, 08:59

I am wondering about the new generation of Windows. As a third world person, I am curious how expensive the new Windows will be for future programmers and users. Windows for Business. So will the others be forced to log in to the Microsoft cloud to log in? Will the user need internet to pay for Windows?
I have an old computer. What class of computer will be recommended for the next generation of Windows? Will my activities and data on Windows itself be collected in huge database?

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/2/22...vent-june-24th

GMJCZP · 3rd June 2021, 11:38

IMO, I think it is irritating that Microsoft every time it launches a new product, to attract attention, brings "improvements" that what they do is bring problems to users, then protests come, that if you have to re-age the button startup, etc. History will repeat itself, they said that W 10 was going to be the last Windows but business is business, they will say, today we will add an X, tomorrow a .number and so on...

Ghitulescu · 3rd June 2021, 16:59

Nobody is forced to get the new windows if nobody wants it.
One of my computers stil runs W98SE and feel happy - it's the music computer. The video computer still runs XP, the tablet w2k.

Funny is that people always complain about the new version of windows and praise the older - people that praise todays XP probably cursed it in 2001 and claimed w2k was the best. Probably w10 will also get some laurels in 10 years from now

wswartzendruber · 3rd June 2021, 18:55

As far as I am concerned, Windows 2000 has yet to be beaten.

wonkey_monkey · 3rd June 2021, 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghitulescu

Nobody is forced to get the new windows if nobody wants it.

You say that, but a lot of people ended up with Windows 10 when they weren't expecting it. Microsoft didn't exactly go out of their way to get user consent for that upgrade.

Katie Boundary · 13th June 2021, 04:40

Windows has been getting worse for a VERY long time.

Windows 1.0 through 2000 were usable right out of the box with no adjustments whatsoever.

WinXP required about 2 minutes of minor tweaking to be usable (going back to win95-style start menu etc.)

Vista required significantly more tweaking to be usable (disabling UAC, taking ownership of the "Program Files" directory etc.) but could still be made usable with no third-party software.

Win7 required not only the same amount of tweaking as Vista, but also the third-party (but FOSS) program Classic Shell.

Win10 has been out for 6 years and the arseholes at the Win Classic boards are still trying to figure out how to make it usable. The best bet seems to be a third-party, paid, closed-source program called Windowblinds (in addition to Classic Shell and the aforementioned amount of tweaking).

"Windows 11 AM" is going to be anal rape.

Atak_Snajpera · 13th June 2021, 13:51

Plot Twist: New windows will be called "Windows"

badabum tsssss...

feisty2 · 13th June 2021, 14:05

microsoft no longer puts much effort into consumer software, their main source of income is now cloud computing and productivity stuff, that kinda explains why recent versions of windows totally suck.

FranceBB · 13th June 2021, 16:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by feisty2

microsoft no longer puts much effort into consumer software, their main source of income is now cloud computing and productivity stuff, that kinda explains why recent versions of windows totally suck.

I totally agree.
They've been much more focused on stuff like Azure, Office 365 with its cloud services etc that they barely worked on Windows. It's funny though how Microsoft said that Windows 10 was going to be their last OS in 2015 only to be like "oh, we changed our minds" 6 years later...

feisty2 · 13th June 2021, 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by FranceBB

It's funny though how Microsoft said that Windows 10 was going to be their last OS in 2015 only to be like "oh, we changed our minds" 6 years later...

win10 is basically longhorn 2.0, a junk pile of half cooked ideas and inconsistencies everywhere. this "next generation" is apparently longhorn reset 2.0, it seems they had not learned their lesson after all these years

StainlessS · 13th June 2021, 19:26

I'm sure that next gen windows will be every bit as good as Windows 10.

kolak · 13th June 2021, 22:53

MS has simply no clue what to do next. Lack of ideas and innovation.
Win10 is some strange mix of old crap and new (not always good) ideas. At least it's fairly stable (unless you get an auto update which breaks everything

)

StainlessS · 14th June 2021, 01:05

The very best and most sensible thing M$ could do next is to fix all of the problems in W10.
Windows is not the latest app, it is [an OS] supposed to provide a stable common code interface to service
other software, not to replace other software, and ideally not constantly changing.
Fix all of the bugs and remove the spyware, that would make me happy
[we dont not need no new features that dont work well, the we got oodles that dont work well already].

EDIT: I tried to find a clip of billionaire media mogul [Jonathan Pryce], in [James bond] "Tomorrow Never Dies",
being told, somthing like

Quote:

Our new software is riddled with bugs, users will be forced to upgrade for years to come.

and the billionaire Pryce character say something like "Good", or maybe "Execllent!" [EDIT: Actually "Outstanding!"].
[There's a message or comment in there somewhere]

EDIT: Here, @ approx 1:30 onwards:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nBZ-u1ilBI

Emulgator · 14th June 2021, 08:15

Tron: Legacy
Alan: "Excuse me."
Encom CEO: "Yesss, Alan."
Alan: "Given the prices that we charge to students, schools:
What sort of improvements have we made in Flynn... I mean Encom OS 12 ?
Encom CEO: "This year we put a "12" on the box." (Laughter from his crowd)

Katie Boundary · 14th June 2021, 08:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emulgator

Tron: Legacy
"Excuse me."
"Yesss, Alan."
"Given the prices that we charge to students, schools, what sort of improvements have we made in Flynn... I mean Encom OS 12?"
Encom guy: "This year we put a 12 on the box."
(Laughter from his crowd)

The character was joking, of course. The Dillinger guy then explains that they actually made a bunch of stability and security improvements.

I f**king love that movie.

SeeMoreDigital · 16th June 2021, 11:44

Microsoft to end Windows 10 support on October 14th, 2025

Pauly Dunne · 16th June 2021, 13:44

Can't wait, bring it on

And just after posting this, I found this, so I'm going to have a look for myself...

Ooop's sorry 'bout that, I don't read the rule's, as a rule

Anyway, there's a "Genuine" Insider Preview to play with, now.....

StainlessS · 16th June 2021, 17:35

Windows 11 images leak online…and look much like Windows 10:-
https://metro.co.uk/2021/06/16/windo...s-10-14780463/

Free and Optional Upgrade:-
https://www.windowslatest.com/2021/0...uling-updates/

Lucky us.

EDIT: This must be that World Wide Web, that I've heard about:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0LJKdCq6a8

Windows 11 Leaked - Let's Explore It! (Build 21996.1 Overview & Demo):-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni2Bl6O07nA

wswartzendruber · 16th June 2021, 22:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by StainlessS

Windows 11 images leak online…and look much like Windows 10:-
https://metro.co.uk/2021/06/16/windo...s-10-14780463/

Free and Optional Upgrade:-
https://www.windowslatest.com/2021/0...uling-updates/

Lucky us.

EDIT: This must be that World Wide Web, that I've heard about:-
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/worldn...e-rain-on-way/

If it's free, they'll likely use it as a marketing platform to cram services down our throats.

FranceBB · 16th June 2021, 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by wswartzendruber

If it's free, they'll likely use it as a marketing platform to cram services down our throats.

Yeah, like they've done with the stupid weather widget I've got in the last Windows 10 update...
The worse part is that they turned it on by default...

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Jamaika Registered User Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 705	next generation Windows I am wondering about the new generation of Windows. As a third world person, I am curious how expensive the new Windows will be for future programmers and users. Windows for Business. So will the others be forced to log in to the Microsoft cloud to log in? Will the user need internet to pay for Windows? I have an old computer. What class of computer will be recommended for the next generation of Windows? Will my activities and data on Windows itself be collected in huge database? https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/2/22...vent-june-24th

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Ghitulescu Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 5,769	Nobody is forced to get the new windows if nobody wants it. One of my computers stil runs W98SE and feel happy - it's the music computer. The video computer still runs XP, the tablet w2k. Funny is that people always complain about the new version of windows and praise the older - people that praise todays XP probably cursed it in 2001 and claimed w2k was the best. Probably w10 will also get some laurels in 10 years from now __________________ Born in the USB (not USA)

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Katie Boundary Registered User Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 1,056	Windows has been getting worse for a VERY long time. Windows 1.0 through 2000 were usable right out of the box with no adjustments whatsoever. WinXP required about 2 minutes of minor tweaking to be usable (going back to win95-style start menu etc.) Vista required significantly more tweaking to be usable (disabling UAC, taking ownership of the "Program Files" directory etc.) but could still be made usable with no third-party software. Win7 required not only the same amount of tweaking as Vista, but also the third-party (but FOSS) program Classic Shell. Win10 has been out for 6 years and the arseholes at the Win Classic boards are still trying to figure out how to make it usable. The best bet seems to be a third-party, paid, closed-source program called Windowblinds (in addition to Classic Shell and the aforementioned amount of tweaking). "Windows 11 AM" is going to be anal rape. __________________ I ask unusual questions but always give proper thanks to those who give correct and useful answers.

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