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Old 28th June 2010, 23:38   #21  |  Link
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Denner do you remember what video bitrate was originally requested by the program? I'm wondering if the overshoot was in the "asked vs. actual" bitrate of the converted video, or instead in the muxing process of video/audio/subs.
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To view the current bitrate really has the file can be obtained from BDinfo and also know the bitrate of the subtitles. I think the problem may be in the subs or the re-encoded video has a really different bitrate.

Denner, you can display the data obtained with BDinfo?

http://www.cinemasquid.com/blu-ray/tools/bdinfo

Open output and "Scan bitrates" "View Report"


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Here you go, first the settings from BDtoAVCHD:




And the info from BDinfo:
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Total Video
Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track
----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ ---------------------
00000.MPLS AVC 2:08:24 8.550.248.448 8.550.347.636 8,88 6,77 DTS 5.1 1509Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)
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DISC INFO:

Disc Title: SHERLOCK HOLMES
Disc Size: 8.550.347.636 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
BDInfo: 0.5.4

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00000.MPLS
Length: 2:08:24 (h:m:s)
Size: 8.550.248.448 bytes
Total Bitrate: 8,88 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 6773 kbps 1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS Audio English 1509 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics Danish 26,240 kbps

FILES:

Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
---- ------- ------ ---- -------------
00000.M2TS 0:00:00.000 2:08:24.738 8.550.248.448 8.878

CHAPTERS:

Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time
------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- --------------
1 0:00:00.000 0:06:46.530 6.025 kbps 31.628 kbps 00:06:39.565 22.779 kbps 00:06:37.980 16.935 kbps 00:06:36.521 31.407 bytes 435.273 bytes 00:06:40.024
2 0:06:46.530 0:04:43.699 8.019 kbps 17.292 kbps 00:06:46.906 14.739 kbps 00:06:59.085 14.310 kbps 00:06:54.789 41.810 bytes 258.644 bytes 00:07:21.691
3 0:11:30.230 0:04:11.376 5.515 kbps 18.457 kbps 00:12:10.938 13.370 kbps 00:12:06.892 12.775 kbps 00:12:02.263 28.755 bytes 283.200 bytes 00:11:38.489
4 0:15:41.606 0:03:27.290 7.513 kbps 22.427 kbps 00:18:40.202 14.567 kbps 00:16:42.501 12.547 kbps 00:16:40.624 39.167 bytes 272.631 bytes 00:16:46.296
5 0:19:08.897 0:04:20.177 6.665 kbps 14.388 kbps 00:21:48.432 12.123 kbps 00:21:51.018 10.645 kbps 00:21:45.971 34.747 bytes 218.285 bytes 00:21:18.318
6 0:23:29.074 0:04:20.800 6.170 kbps 17.257 kbps 00:24:23.837 11.267 kbps 00:26:05.021 10.864 kbps 00:26:01.017 32.167 bytes 264.966 bytes 00:24:24.713
7 0:27:49.875 0:04:11.376 7.023 kbps 13.873 kbps 00:27:50.210 11.443 kbps 00:30:47.804 10.227 kbps 00:30:47.804 36.613 bytes 282.777 bytes 00:30:58.356
8 0:32:01.252 0:05:07.182 7.733 kbps 18.598 kbps 00:33:53.489 17.334 kbps 00:33:51.404 14.811 kbps 00:33:47.066 40.317 bytes 288.700 bytes 00:33:47.108
9 0:37:08.434 0:03:41.971 6.696 kbps 25.688 kbps 00:37:26.744 14.254 kbps 00:40:41.313 13.827 kbps 00:40:39.895 34.907 bytes 356.744 bytes 00:40:47.236
10 0:40:50.405 0:03:46.809 6.143 kbps 17.747 kbps 00:43:15.134 8.679 kbps 00:42:24.208 8.065 kbps 00:43:59.553 32.025 bytes 229.105 bytes 00:44:25.412
11 0:44:37.215 0:03:02.474 6.363 kbps 14.986 kbps 00:46:11.727 11.452 kbps 00:46:52.851 8.904 kbps 00:46:51.767 33.174 bytes 257.506 bytes 00:46:11.768
12 0:47:39.690 0:03:12.482 8.534 kbps 17.522 kbps 00:50:19.891 12.597 kbps 00:49:09.780 11.382 kbps 00:49:07.861 44.492 bytes 288.114 bytes 00:50:19.933
13 0:50:52.172 0:04:25.433 8.119 kbps 17.377 kbps 00:51:38.303 12.899 kbps 00:51:18.992 11.593 kbps 00:51:18.992 42.322 bytes 303.238 bytes 00:50:58.597
14 0:55:17.606 0:03:46.849 7.558 kbps 14.894 kbps 00:58:30.840 12.303 kbps 00:57:05.630 10.667 kbps 00:57:05.547 39.412 bytes 318.124 bytes 00:58:55.907
15 0:59:04.456 0:04:00.323 4.347 kbps 13.154 kbps 00:59:39.951 11.236 kbps 00:59:39.701 7.483 kbps 00:59:38.950 22.665 bytes 249.647 bytes 01:03:04.697
16 1:03:04.780 0:03:03.266 8.857 kbps 18.011 kbps 01:05:03.899 12.691 kbps 01:03:13.289 12.271 kbps 01:03:08.284 46.177 bytes 311.056 bytes 01:03:20.254
17 1:06:08.046 0:05:06.056 6.028 kbps 14.512 kbps 01:07:33.048 11.495 kbps 01:08:24.225 10.762 kbps 01:07:33.048 31.425 bytes 356.363 bytes 01:07:55.696
18 1:11:14.103 0:03:25.247 6.237 kbps 22.537 kbps 01:14:17.411 21.150 kbps 01:14:13.699 20.572 kbps 01:14:08.902 32.511 bytes 244.531 bytes 01:14:07.192
19 1:14:39.350 0:02:56.967 6.252 kbps 20.401 kbps 01:15:42.246 8.809 kbps 01:16:28.917 8.125 kbps 01:15:41.995 32.604 bytes 247.618 bytes 01:14:40.267
20 1:17:36.318 0:05:58.773 6.851 kbps 20.920 kbps 01:20:45.882 16.656 kbps 01:21:23.586 14.364 kbps 01:21:19.499 35.720 bytes 262.956 bytes 01:21:20.166
21 1:23:35.091 0:02:31.861 5.695 kbps 21.813 kbps 01:23:51.359 13.203 kbps 01:23:50.233 12.131 kbps 01:23:50.733 29.691 bytes 190.034 bytes 01:23:51.860
22 1:26:06.953 0:04:50.205 5.412 kbps 14.398 kbps 01:30:28.381 9.908 kbps 01:30:27.880 9.576 kbps 01:30:27.713 28.217 bytes 267.594 bytes 01:29:22.732
23 1:30:57.158 0:04:18.217 8.543 kbps 16.813 kbps 01:34:19.070 14.857 kbps 01:33:15.047 13.387 kbps 01:32:34.882 44.537 bytes 465.309 bytes 01:34:20.071
24 1:35:15.376 0:04:30.603 7.582 kbps 27.408 kbps 01:37:51.740 20.794 kbps 01:38:55.637 17.747 kbps 01:38:53.510 39.528 bytes 307.357 bytes 01:37:48.654
25 1:39:45.979 0:04:32.023 6.057 kbps 14.895 kbps 01:40:18.470 12.865 kbps 01:40:17.886 10.466 kbps 01:40:18.178 31.575 bytes 284.247 bytes 01:41:29.666
26 1:44:18.002 0:04:03.951 6.830 kbps 17.574 kbps 01:48:20.619 14.071 kbps 01:48:16.948 12.651 kbps 01:47:59.598 35.622 bytes 298.885 bytes 01:44:41.191
27 1:48:21.953 0:05:40.757 8.642 kbps 26.841 kbps 01:51:39.484 18.488 kbps 01:48:25.498 15.172 kbps 01:48:23.622 45.048 bytes 353.144 bytes 01:51:08.953
28 1:54:02.711 0:02:04.791 5.361 kbps 8.119 kbps 01:55:29.380 7.339 kbps 01:54:08.132 6.929 kbps 01:54:05.296 27.958 bytes 195.159 bytes 01:56:07.418
29 1:56:07.502 0:04:18.674 6.335 kbps 13.401 kbps 02:00:02.903 12.653 kbps 02:00:02.903 12.544 kbps 02:00:02.903 33.029 bytes 240.789 bytes 01:56:53.965
30 2:00:26.176 0:07:58.562 5.981 kbps 31.908 kbps 02:02:24.086 19.186 kbps 02:02:23.085 16.323 kbps 02:00:29.096 31.183 bytes 766.814 bytes 02:02:26.088

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets
---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -----
00000.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 7704,697 6.773 6.523.020.676 35.560.277
00000.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x82 DTS eng (English) 7704,697 1.508 1.452.748.504 8.664.504
00000.M2TS 4608 (0x1200) 0x90 PGS dan (Danish) 7704,697 26 25.271.974 145.678

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Old 29th June 2010, 13:38   #24  |  Link
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I know what is causing the oversize!

In the settings you put the track as forced subtitles but the original track has a bitrate of 26 Kbps and is therefore is not a forced subtitles track.

The general rule to follow is:
If the original track of the Blu-Ray is forced subtitles in the software select "forced subtitle" if not select "regular subtitle"

Perhaps it is not clear

The program does not scan the bitrates and therefore considered: forced subtitle < 2 Kbps, normal subtitle ~20 - 25 Kbps.

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Old 29th June 2010, 16:16   #25  |  Link
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Ok, that explains a lot, I was under the impression that the forced sub option was a say for me to force the sub as a defult sub ?

Well Sorry that I misunderstood, but it would be a cool feature for the end user to be able to force a subtitle stream : )

Will try to encode again whit the sub as non forced

Will you maybe, in a future version support an animation preset and multiple subtitles and audio streams ?

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it would be a cool feature for the end user to be able to force a subtitle stream : )
You can force a subtitle track (default = on) but only if it is forced on the original Blu-Ray and you select "forced subtitle". Because these tracks tend to have a very low bitrate, no oversize problem.

The ideal would be to detect the actual bitrate of the track but it is not easy... maybe later

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New version with a new feature: scan bitrates!


Allows to know the exact bitrate of the subtitles and HD audio tracks (VBR)

The first post is updated


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it would be a cool feature for the end user to be able to force a subtitle stream : )
It can be done!

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Cool, after turning off the forced option, no more oversized output

Will be testing the new version during the weekenden
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Old 13th July 2010, 21:49   #29  |  Link
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nice Tool and i have used for the last time the BD Rebuilder.

I missed the Features for insert more Language and Subtitle Tracks and a complete backup with Menu of my BluRay?
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Question: does installing this app install any codecs/filters? I already have mine setup the way I like them, and wouldn't want to have this one change any of it.
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Question: does installing this app install any codecs/filters? I already have mine setup the way I like them, and wouldn't want to have this one change any of it.
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KEY FEATURES
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* Do not use external codecs like avisynth or ffdshow or Haali splitter in the process of video conversion.
...and does not install codecs

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@pistacho

Does this program allow for keeping full disc structure (menus, main movie, extras, etc.), or only "main movie"?

Are you in any way associated with Mr. "DVDShrink"?
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I've been looking for an easy-to-use utility to create either an AVCHD or MKV. This utility easily satifies my need for creating AVCHD, so thanks for the good job!

However, it's a long wait to convert a Blu-ray to AVCHD DVD9. I'm using the very slow setting, which I assume gives the best quality. Being used to converting DVD9 to DVD5 with DVD Rebuilder Pro and CCE SP2, this takes far longer... even on my Core i7-956 @ 3.6ghz

Now only if I could find an easy-to-use utility to create a compressed MKV with subtitles. I know MakeMKV, but that creates an uncompressed MKV and I have to go through a lot of trouble to get the subs... a shame there isn't something like "BDtoMKV"... (hint, hint)
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if I could find an easy-to-use utility to create a compressed MKV with subtitles
If I'm not mistaken, BD-Rebuilder recently added that capability...

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April 3rd, 2010 - v0.33.02
- Added a new option "Other Movie-Only Ouput" to the
MODE menu. This allows you to create other types of
files (rather than BD). The current choices are for
iPOD and iPAD (.MP4) files) and MKV output

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a shame there isn't something like "BDtoMKV"... (hint, hint)
ripbot264 does that from long time.
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I second that. I wrote a guide for converting BD to MP4 a little while ago. All you would have to do is change your output to MKV and you should be okay. http://adubvideo.net/how-to/encoding-blurays-mp4-ripbot
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I'll look into those other utilities soon. Right now, however, I'm very satisfied with BDtoAVCHD. The only thing that I bumped into is, how do I differentiate between normal subtitles and the commentary track subtitles? My computer encoded 2012 last night, only to discover I had included the commentary track subtitles instead of the regular subtitles. Quite annoying...
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More often then not you will have to play each subtitle stream in something like Total Media Theater and discover which stream is which (they should always be displayed in the same order).
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A new version is out and this is the changelog:

Version 1.1.2 (07/24/2010)
  • New parameters are used --b-pyramid "strict" and --open-gop "bluray".
  • Now the default is used weightp = 2 (improves compression in fades) but adds a configuration option to disable this option for players that are not compatible.
  • x264 updated to version r1683.
  • Mkvextract updated to version 4.1.1
  • Fixed: the "Scan Bitrates" did not work while a conversion is in progress. Now can be used in parallel.


@ Wildfire:

I recommend you use no more than "slow" unless you have a good reason for it The visual difference is not going to notice and the time it takes the conversion is much longer.

This is a rough comparison I made some time ago:
(with only one minute of video)



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I'm sticking with the 'very slow'-setting... it can start encoding late in the evening when I'm watching TV or reading a book, continue encoding while I'm asleep and in the morning when I go through my 'morning rituals' (breakfast, reading the newspaper, showering, etc) it can finish encoding.

I always use the 'best quality'-option for my encodes, as long as the encoding time remains reasonable - which in this case, it still does. Excellent video quality, even on long movies like 2012 and Watchmen. So with that in mind: excellent utility! Thanks!
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