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View Poll Results: Which tool do you use to encode x264?
Avidemux 0 0%
Handbrake 5 1.42%
MeGUI 109 31.05%
MeGUI x264 76 21.65%
RealAnime 16 4.56%
StaxRip 26 7.41%
VirtualDub/VirtualDubMod/GordianKnot/other VFW 33 9.40%
batch, script 44 12.54%
command shell 14 3.99%
other 28 7.98%
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Old 15th January 2006, 23:18   #21  |  Link
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Old 16th January 2006, 03:59   #22  |  Link
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Both MeGUI should have been as one, since it's the same soft.
Not really, I've used both and I greatly prefer MeGui X264.
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Not really, I've used both and I greatly prefer MeGui X264.
I'm not complaining or anything, I'm just intrigued. Why do you prefer MeGUI x264 when MeGUI full offers exactly the same and more if you want it?
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I can't speak for anyone else, but it is rather convenient since it's included in the x264 full package (so you usually get the applicable updates for both in one simple download with installer), and contains almost everything you need if you only use MeGUI for x264 encoding.

It's also really convenient when you want to quickly set up a slave for encoding the video jobs while you typeset or edit, or slap out spreadsheets on another box. Not that I'd ever put work computers to use for anything that wasn't ultimately aiding the shareholders... Employee morale is important to productivity, right?
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Both MeGUI should have been as one, since it's the same soft.
As part of the MeGUI team, I find it rather important that this distinction was made.. it helps up with an eventual decision to dump or not the conditional compilation.

What I'd like to know (and I'm sure stax and Sirber as well), is why there are 9.5% using VfW and why people make their own scripts which is more effort than using a GUI with profiles.
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What I'd like to know (and I'm sure stax and Sirber as well), is why there are 9.5% using VfW
I'm one of those I guess not everyone is bothered to install .NET (yes i know the CLI version doesn't need that, but i avoid CLI versions when possible).

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Ehm ... Not everyone uses it for encoding his clean dvd's.
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So? There's an avisynth script creator and you can have profiles that you can fill with exotic filters that would make me run away screaming..
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I'm one of those I guess not everyone is bothered to install .NET
RealAnime is in Delphi 7, so no .NET to install or any other framework
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What I'd like to know (and I'm sure stax and Sirber as well), is why there are 9.5% using VfW and why people make their own scripts which is more effort than using a GUI with profiles.
This is why I make my own (bash and Perl) scripts:

1) It is hard to get most of these GUIs running on other operating systems than Windows.

2) Scripts can be easily used through SSH remote connections and they can be left running in the background when there is no connection.

3) Not everyone uses x264 to encode DVD sources. TV recording (timeshifting) and for example 24h video surveillance both require more automatic encoding which can be done either by including x264 support directly in the video capture program, or by simple scripting to enhance existing programs.
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yep i also prefer commandline encodeing and batch/bash especialy remotely
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2) Scripts can be easily used through SSH remote connections and they can be left running in the background when there is no connection.
Well.. there's x11 tunneling over SSH and RDP for Windows
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What I'd like to know (and I'm sure stax and Sirber as well), is why there are 9.5% using VfW and why people make their own scripts which is more effort than using a GUI with profiles.
That's a good question indeed. Maybe coz VFW is editable in VDub...
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i use batch script(s) for providing my editing stuff to the people (you know like work in progress stuff), it is avi->mp4 centric, and it is a one click encoding (just a button in total commander.)

however if i wanna be fancy i have set different encoding methods for both audio and video and you can call the script with a command line like:

x264_ c:\file.avi d:\template.avs itunes slow

(which is: use avisynth template called template.avs, use itunes for sound, use slow preset for x264)

also the script will automagically hint the mp4 file, upload it to my ftp server and return the url, so that url gets mailed asap. - basically it is about the specific need....

edit: oh, i do use megui actually, mostly to rip shartooths presets.

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Well.. there's x11 tunneling over SSH and RDP for Windows
Both require an order of magnitude more bandwidth and persistency is difficult to achieve at least with X11 tunneling (if the connection is closed, the app goes down). Actually I use VNC myself to always have a persistent remote desktop running. However, I mostly use it to have some terminal windows running, so it would be better to have a script or a simple program that uses SSH+screen to easily connect to multiple remote shells at once.

But don't listen to me, I use X (which is my only desktop) just to have multiple terminal windows on the same screen, run a browser, an IM client and the occasional MPlayer instance
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As part of the MeGUI team, I find it rather important that this distinction was made.. it helps up with an eventual decision to dump or not the conditional compilation.
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and why people make their own scripts which is more effort than using a GUI with profiles.
I've been using UltraEdit + VDub to write scripts for like 5 years. Many GUIs have been written, but none of them seemed good enough to invest the necessary time to get comfortable/fast with them, so I didn't. Now that I'm kinda involved with MeGUI maybe I'll change workflow.

I'm certain VFW has only stayed alive because of VDub.
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That's a good question indeed. Maybe coz VFW is editable in VDub...
MeGUI CLI encodes can be edited in Vdub using VDub's frameserving function.

"your .avs" or "your.avi" file --> Open in Vdub and edit and frameserve to "your.vdr" file--> open "your.vdr" file in avisynth using avisource("mydrive:\your.vdr")--> open this .avs file in MeGUI, RealAnime, StaxRip, etc and encode. It's a little more of a hassle, but at least you get the better quality that the CLI version provides.
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I used to use GKnot for bitrate calculation and avs generation and manually encoded in VDub.. but that was before I started adding all those tools to MeGUI.. I haven't installed GKnot anymore with the latest PC resetup back in June.. I've never had the need anymore.
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What I'd like to know ... why people make their own scripts which is more effort than using a GUI with profiles.
How is click here, click there, pull down this menu, select this tab, press this radio button, click OK, click File->Save, click Yes, click OK.... easier than execute encode.bat?
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Ok: batch file operation:
1. Open command prompt.
2. Navigate to your directory.
3. Type encode your_avs_script.avs

MeGUI approach.
1. Open a window with your_avs_script.avs
2. Drag it onto MeGUI.
3. Press Queue. (With Autostart Queue turned on, that's enough)
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