Try to convert a HD-DVD into a m2ts-file (tsmuxer can´t recognize VC1 stream)

[OliBoe]

Hi,
i´m trying to convert my original Herbert Grönemeyer HD-DVD (live concert) to a format which will be accepted by my PS3.

I demuxed the .evo files with eac3to and with EVOdemux and both times the tsMuxeR (1.8.4 or 1.8.8) wont recognize the VC1 stream.

The VC1 stream is in real 1080i60 interlaced and i´ve no idea what to do next?

So maybe you can help me with some hints?

best regards,
Oliver

[dat720]

Even if you successfully get tsMuxer to recognise the vc1 stream, your not going to have much joy, i've yet to be able to get my PS3 to playback a HD DVD VC1 Stream....

I convert the VC1 stream to h264 then mux to a M2TS container, the PS3 plays them perfectly.... as long as they have AC3/MP3 audio.

[OliBoe]

Hm...
how do you convert the VC1 stream into a h.264 one?
I guess that this kind of conversion is not lossless?
What are the steps you are doing?

The concert (the .evo´s) contains three audio-tracks:
- 2 channel PCM
- 5.1 channel DTS 96kHz (1.5 MBit/s)
- 7.1 channel DTS-HD (aprox. 2.5 MBit/s)

I would prefer to keep one of the DTS tracks.
Best regards,
Oliver

[OliBoe]

Another short reply...

I just created a MKV (with eac3to) and tsMuxeR wont accept this MKV either.

So i think i´ve to cobvert or transcode the VC1 to "something"...

Or should i try to use the MKV and convert this one into a format the PS3 will accept?

[dat720]

PS3 won't play MKV, yoru choice for HD containers are MP4 or M2TS.... MP4 is picky as hell...... M2TS is easy to make work.

DTS is also a no go when streaming/playing from a container... it will need to be AC3 or MP3, convert the 5.1 DTS track to 640kbps AC3 using eac3to

I use mencoder to convert VC1 to h264, it's very reliable and i always end up with a PS3 compatible stream with teh command line i use.

[rack04]

Sounds like RipBot264 is exactly what you need.

[OliBoe]

Hi,

i just tried the RipBot264 yesterday evening (installed all the neccessary filters, programs etc.) and at one point the software tried to open "getinfo.avs" and i get the following error message:
DirectShowSource: Timeout waiting for graph to start
(c:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\getinfo.avs, line 2)

The corresponding avs file looks like this:

DirectShowSource("C:\HD_Tools\eac3to\groeni.mkv",audio=false).ConvertToYV12()
WriteFile("C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","Framecount")
WriteFile("C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","Framerate")
WriteFile("C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","AudioRate")
WriteFile("C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","AudioChannels")
WriteFile("C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","AudioLength")
WriteFile("C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","Width")
WriteFile("C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","Height ")
Trim(0,-1)

So what did i wrong or what´s the problem?

Best regards,
Oliver

[QuadcoreHD]

Is EVODemux still used? Probably a rediculous question...

[OliBoe]

Hi,
i still tried the guide in your footer once again but because there are the same steps as i tried in first time - txMuxeR can´t recognize the VC-1 video-stream once again.

Here are the details from Evodemuxer:

Open VPLST100.XPL
Filesize: 18193 bytes
Done.

.
Opening file L0_Concert.EVO
Reading...
File size: 13614 Mbytes.
VOB number 1 contains 2 video , 4 audio and 2 subpicture streams.
PTM of first video frame = 0000D2F0
PTM of last video frame = 1933CD85
Duration = 1:18:17.459
VC-1 video stream 0 found!
First PTS = 0000D2F0
Substream id = 55
Profile = Advanced
Level = 3
Chroma Format = 4:2:0
Size = 1920x1080
Display size = 1920x1080
Aspect ratio = 1:1 (square samples)
Frame Rate = 23,976 (24000/1001)
LPCM audio stream 0 found!
First PTS = 0000D2F0
Substream id = A0
Number of frame headers = 13
First acces unit pointer = 0006
Emphasis = off, mute = off
Frame number = 0
Quantization length = 16 bits
Sampling frequency = 48 kHz
Number of audio channels = 2
DTS HD (DTS) audio stream 1 found!
First PTS = 0000D2F0
Substream id = 89
PCM core samples = 32
PCM sample blocks = 16
Primary frame byte size = 2011
Channel arrangement = C + L + R + Ls + Rs
Sampling frequency = 48 kHz
Transmission bitrate = 1536 kbit/s
Extension audio = Frequency extension
LFE channel = present (IF:64)
Encoder software rev. = 7, Current
Source PCM resolution = 24 bits
Frequency extensiond found (96 kHz)
VC-1 video stream 1 found!
First PTS = 0000D2F0
Substream id = 56
Profile = Advanced
Level = 2
Chroma Format = 4:2:0
Size = 720x480
Display size = 720x480
Aspect ratio = 40:33 (704x480 16:9)
Frame Rate = 23,976 (24000/1001)
Dolby Digital Plus audio stream 8 found!
First PTS = 0000D2F0
Substream id = C8
Stream 8 is Dolby Digital Plus
frame size = 768 bytes, number of blocks per frame = 6
Sampling frequency = 48 kHz
Transmission bitrate = 192 kbit/s
Channel arrangement = L + R, bsid = 16
LFE channel = not present
DTS HD (DTS) audio stream 2 found!
First PTS = 0000D6B0 (+10ms)
Substream id = 8A
Frequency extensiond found (96 kHz)
PCM core samples = 32
PCM sample blocks = 16
Primary frame byte size = 2011
Channel arrangement = C + L + R + Ls + Rs
Sampling frequency = 48 kHz
Transmission bitrate = 1536 kbit/s
LFE channel = present (IF:64)
Encoder software rev. = 7, Current
Source PCM resolution = 24 bits, DTS ES
Subpicture stream 1 found!
First PTS = 00081C15 (+5305ms)
Substream id = 21
Format = 8bitRLE
.
Opening file L1_Concert.EVO
Reading...
File size: 4280 Mbytes.
VOB number 1 contains 2 video , 4 audio and 2 subpicture streams.
PTM of first video frame = 0000D2F0
PTM of last video frame = 08C58369
Duration = 0:27:14.533
VC-1 video stream 0 found!
First PTS = 0000D2F0
Substream id = 55
Profile = Advanced
Level = 3
Chroma Format = 4:2:0
Size = 1920x1080
Display size = 1920x1080
Aspect ratio = 1:1 (square samples)
Frame Rate = 23,976 (24000/1001)
DTS HD (DTS) audio stream 2 found!
First PTS = 00001BDB (+47721338ms)
Substream id = 8A
PCM core samples = 32
PCM sample blocks = 16
Primary frame byte size = 2011
Channel arrangement = C + L + R + Ls + Rs
Sampling frequency = 48 kHz
Transmission bitrate = 1536 kbit/s
LFE channel = present (IF:64)
Encoder software rev. = 7, Current
Source PCM resolution = 24 bits, DTS ES
LPCM audio stream 0 found!
First PTS = 000036FC (+47721415ms)
Substream id = A0
Number of frame headers = 13
First acces unit pointer = 004E
Emphasis = off, mute = off
Frame number = 26
Quantization length = 16 bits
Sampling frequency = 48 kHz
Number of audio channels = 2
DTS HD (DTS) audio stream 1 found!
First PTS = 000039DB (+47721423ms)
Substream id = 89
Frequency extensiond found (96 kHz)
Dolby Digital Plus audio stream 8 found!
First PTS = 0000451B (+47721455ms)
Substream id = C8
Stream 8 is Dolby Digital Plus
frame size = 768 bytes, number of blocks per frame = 6
Sampling frequency = 48 kHz
Transmission bitrate = 192 kbit/s
Channel arrangement = L + R, bsid = 16
LFE channel = not present
VC-1 video stream 1 found!
First PTS = 00000000 (+47721258ms)
Substream id = 56
Profile = Reserved
Level = 0
Chroma Format = Reserved
Size = 2x894
Progressive segmented frames.
Subpicture stream 0 found!
First PTS = 0012C948 (+13079ms)
Substream id = 20
Format = 8bitRLE
Done.

7130 counted frames (0:04:57.380) in video stream 0.
151816 calculated frames in video stream 0.
7126 counted frames (0:04:57.214) in video stream 1.
151816 calculated frames in video stream 1.

Reading HVA00001.VTI
7 VTS_EVOB_ATRs found.
28 VTS_EVOBIs found.
Done.

Creating C:\Temp\L0_Concert_MERGED.VC-1.stream.0.mpv
Creating C:\Temp\L0_Concert_MERGED.LPCM.stream.00.mpa
Creating C:\Temp\L0_Concert_MERGED.DTSHD.stream.01.mpa
Opening file L0_Concert.EVO
File size: 13614 Mbytes.
Demuxing L0_Concert.EVO
Opening file L1_Concert.EVO
File size: 4280 Mbytes.
Demuxing L1_Concert.EVO
Done.

189790 counted frames (2:11:55.825) in video stream 0.
151816 calculated frames in video stream 0.
151816 calculated frames in video stream 1.

Best regards,
Oliver

[dat720]

EVODemux is old and hasn't been updatedfor a long time, demux the disc with eac3to, and don't demux files you have already dumped to you hard drive, let eac3to dump straight off the disc.

[OliBoe]

Hi,

i (just before i read your reply) converted the .evo (video only) in a MKV (with eac3to) and tried to feed RipBot264 with it.
After 30s the media player starts with "DirectShowSource: Timeout waiting for graph" (again).

And eac3to worked with the original HD-DVD (AnyDVD HD enabled).

Also tsMuxeR just said: Unsupported format...

So my last try is to demux all tracks with eac3to again (directly from the disc)...

I don´t know if RipBot264 problably will work but i´m just unable to build up the correct graph for VC-1?
Best regards,
Oliver

[dat720]

Not sure, i don't use ripbot, i use mencoder, it does not need avs scripts or graph's to work.

[OliBoe]

Hi,
i think i should just give up trying to convert the HD DVD concert to a blu-ray format... :-(

I used your guide step for step some two days ago and it didn´t work either...

Demux with eac3to directly from the drive: works
Muxing the sound into the MKX: works
Encode using Mencoder: fails
...okay, fails isn´t correct.
Mencoder try´s his best but...
- every 1,5s a frame is skipped
- speed is about 2fps/s on a Athlon64X2 4850e
- Mencoder states that the framerate is 23,997fps - but it is original 60Hz interlaced (TV)
- tsMuxeR can´t recognize the video-stream. The audio-stream is no problem but not the video-stream.

Mplayer isn´t able to playback the demuxed MKV (without audio).

So - i´ve no clue what to do next.
Only two things come to my mind which may be the problem:
- there are two video-streams in the EVO (Picture-in-picture)
- the framrate is (because it is a broadcast conzert) real 1080i60.
It´s interessting that eac3to recognizes this framerate (and names the filenname of the video 'xxx1080i' but all other tools recognizes the video as 23,997fps.

This conversion should be a little christmas present to my wife which is one of the biggest Grönemeyer fans and we have a HD-DVD player in my home-cinema but only a Blu-Ray player (PS3) in our living-room. So i tried to convert to concert and store it on the Harddisk of the ps3...

Best regards,
Oliver

[dat720]

Here is the batch file i use to transcode my VC1/h264 to h264 for use on the PS3

mencoder.exe %1 -vf harddup-ovc x264 -x264encopts crf=18:frameref=3:bframes=3:b_pyramid:direct_pred=auto:weight_b:partitions=all:8x8dct:me=umh:mixed_refs:brdo:bime:trellis=1:nopsnr:nossim:subq=6:level_idc=41:threads=auto -oac copy -of lavf -o "%~dpn1.crf.mkv"

Save that command to a file called ps3.bat or something similar... then drag the mkv that eac3to created onto that batch file....

Sit back and relax, after 6-8 hours you should have a mkv file that can be remuxed to a m2ts (mencoder cannot yet create m2ts containers)

And welcome to the world of HD Video encoding I have a 2.83ghz Quad Core Intel Q9550 that is baught to its knees with HD content... it stuggles to stay at 10fps.... 12 if easy content, and some content will drag it down to 6-8

When the performance difference between the Q9x50's and the i7's is resonable i'll be down to the PC shop to get one!

[OliBoe]

Hi,

thank you for your mencoder statement but it didn´t work.

Here is the log:

C:\HD_Tools\MPlayer-p4-svn-28126>mencoder.exe hddvd.mkv -vf harddup -ovc x264 -x
264encopts crf=18:frameref=3:bframes=3:b_pyramid:direct_pred=auto:weight_barti
tions=all:8x8dct:me=umh:mixed_refs:brdo:bime:trellis=1:nopsnr:nossim:subq=6:leve
l_idc=41:threads=auto -oac copy -of lavf -o out.mkv
MEncoder Sherpya-SVN-r28126-4.2.5 (C) 2000-2008 MPlayer Team
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Dual Core Processor 4850e (Family: 15, Model: 107, Stepping:
2)
3DNow supported but disabled
3DNowExt supported but disabled
CPUflags: Type: 15 MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1
Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX MMX2 SSE SSE2

Option x264encopts: Unknown suboption brdo
Option x264encopts: Unknown suboption bime
success: format: 0 data: 0x0 - 0x5120fb9a
[mkv] Track ID 1: video (V_MS/VFW/FOURCC), -vid 0
[mkv] Track ID 2: audio (A_DTS), -aid 0, -alang und
[mkv] Will play video track 1.
Matroska file format detected.
VIDEO: [WVC1] 1920x1080 0bpp 29.970 fps 0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
[V] filefmt:31 fourcc:0x31435657 size:1920x1080 fps:29.970 ftime:=0.0334
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [libdca] DTS decoding with libdca
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 1536.0 kbit/100.00% (ratio: 192000->192000)
Selected audio codec: [dts] afm: libdca (DTS-libdca)
==========================================================================
** MUXER_LAVF *****************************************************************
REMEMBER: MEncoder's libavformat muxing is presently broken and can generate
INCORRECT files in the presence of B-frames. Moreover, due to bugs MPlayer
will play these INCORRECT files as if nothing were wrong!
*******************************************************************************
OK, exit.
Opening video filter: [expand osd=1]
Expand: -1 x -1, -1 ; -1, osd: 1, aspect: 0.000000, round: 1
Opening video filter: [harddup]
==========================================================================
Opening video decoder: [dmo] DMO video codecs
DMO dll supports VO Optimizations 0 1
DMO dll might use previous sample when requested
GetOutput r=0x0 size:6220800 align:1
StreamCount r=0x0 1 1
Decoder supports the following formats: YV12 YUY2 UYVY YVYU RGB8 RGB555 RGB565 R
GB24 RGB32
Decoder is capable of YUV output (flags 0x1b)
VDec: vo config request - 1920 x 1080 (preferred colorspace: Packed YUY2)
Could not find matching colorspace - retrying with -vf scale...
Opening video filter: [scale]
VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0)
Movie-Aspect is 1.78:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
[swscaler @ 01C50FA0]using unscaled yuv420p -> yuv420p special converter
FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver.
VDecoder init failed
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
[vc1 @ 00E90400]Incomplete extradata
Could not open codec.
VDecoder init failed
Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x31435657.
Read DOCS/HTML/en/codecs.html!
==========================================================================

Exiting...

My last try worked (mencoder worked - not the movie which was created...)

mencoder.exe -o Out.mkv -of lavf -ovc x264 -x264encopts vbv-bufsize=30000:vbv-maxrate=30000:level=4.1:ref=4:bitrate=12000:subq=6artitions=all:8x8dct:me=umh:frameref=4:bframes=3:b_pyramid:weight_b -oac copy hddvd.mkv

Oliver

[dat720]

try this :

mencoder.exe %1 -vf harddup-ovc x264 -x264encopts crf=18:frameref=3:bframes=3:b_pyramid:direct_pred=auto:weight_b:partitions=all:8x8dct:me=umh:mixed_refs:brdo:bime:trellis=1:nopsnr:nossim:subq=6:level_idc=41:threads=auto -nosound -of rawvideo -o "%~dpn1.crf.264"