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Old 2nd July 2021, 17:06   #61661  |  Link
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Do I assume correctly that to avoid "glitches" it's not recommended to set 1 frame to be rendered in advance and not more? Is there anything else to do? I've pretty much solved the custom refresh thing (at least with madVR, in Kodi for some reasons it's avoiding the custom refresh rates in HDR, while accepting them in SDR) and I don't want no stinking glitches in my media viewing! :-D
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Old 2nd July 2021, 20:15   #61662  |  Link
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FSE can lower presentation issues but this is usually issue with a different program interfering with madVR
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Old 3rd July 2021, 05:24   #61663  |  Link
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Getting a C1 tomorrow so it looks like I need to move to the timed betas... Is the beta closed or am I missing a really obvious link?
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Old 3rd July 2021, 07:15   #61664  |  Link
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http://madshi.net/madVRhdrMeasure134.zip
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Old 3rd July 2021, 07:40   #61665  |  Link
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Old 3rd July 2021, 16:53   #61666  |  Link
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FSE can lower presentation issues but this is usually issue with a different program interfering with madVR
Such as? This is a dedicated HTPC machine, so I don't think there's a lot going on "behind the scenes". If you have anything in mind, please share it, as it could help me looking in the right direction.

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Old 3rd July 2021, 18:00   #61667  |  Link
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i don't know the name but programs to lower blue light output.
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Old 3rd July 2021, 19:45   #61668  |  Link
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In Windows Task Manager, Details tab, add the GPU column and sort by its usage and watch it during playback (you can move the colum to the leftmost position and put TM in the lower right corner) to see if another process uses the GPU from time to time.
Maybe also use something like GPU-Z to check if there's not something wrong with clocks/GPU utilization.
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Old 4th July 2021, 00:18   #61669  |  Link
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i don't know the name but programs to lower blue light output.
f.lux I don't have installed on the HTPC. But I'll check for the similar function in Windows 10... also good suggestion on checking task manager. I'll try that as well.
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C1/CX owners how does your motion options at lowest/closest to 100% frame blending look compared to madVR's Smooth Motion? Are we almost there near MadVR quality yet?
Cinema Screen in conjunction with TruMotion Cinematic Movement is satisfactory in my limited experience (I've had the C1 for just a couple of weeks).
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Old 4th July 2021, 01:09   #61671  |  Link
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Getting a C1 tomorrow so it looks like I need to move to the timed betas
Why do you think you need to use the betas?

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Cinema Screen in conjunction with TruMotion Cinematic Movement is satisfactory in my limited experience (I've had the C1 for just a couple of weeks).
Nice. How's the upscaling?

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Old 4th July 2021, 10:41   #61672  |  Link
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Why do you think you need to use the betas?
Because I read several months ago that the betas mostly relate to HDR and I wanted to be safe rather than sorry. Now that I have an HDR display and have enabled pass-through HDR, I'm not certain the tone-mapping updates apply to me in any way, and it's possible the betas don't benefit me at all--but I nonetheless 'upgraded' from x.17. If you can enlighten me, I'd be happy to learn from you as I've read your posts for several years and I'm sure you're more informed than I am...

I just haven't paid attention closely enough to know for certain either way as I am only in the market for new equipment when I'm willing to spend the money--an event that only comes after so many years.
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The betas won't change anything for you if you use passthrough, they're only useful if you use tonemapping.
With recent LGs there is a way to avoid the TV doing any tonemapping and have only madVR do it, but you've got to really know what you're doing (there are threads at AVS Forum for that), if not passthrough is the safest option.
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Nice. How's the upscaling?
So, regarding motion... the settings I mentioned work fine for 95-99% of the times. There's "glimpses" of SOE that I catch for a second or so, because I'm currently constantly on the lookout for them. But nothing jarring, nothing that stands out unnaturally, to be honest. I think it's a satisfactory experience. And I was expecting worse.

Upscaling of TV broadcast material is ok. For movie/tv sources I always use madVR and I don't have the time to test by outputting native resolution and having the TV do the upscaling. Moreover, comparing without being able to do a side by side risks being pointless (unless TV upscaling quality is really crap, which I don't imagine to be).
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I have a couple settings questions, that I'm not sure about. I'm using MadVR for tone mapping.

1. Based on this info, "The colour depth the Epson 5050UB now supports includes 4:4:4 in 8-bit, 4:2:2 in 8/10/12 bit, and 4:2:0 in 8/10/12 bit at 60Hz. In 24Hz it supports both 4:4:4 and 4:2:2 in 8/10/12 bit resolution", should I set the Nvidia Control Panel to 8 bit or 12 bit, and should I use Full or Limited?

2. I have 2 profiles set up. One for SDR, and the other for HDR. The guy who calibrated my Epson, did SDR in BT.709, and HDR in BT.2020. Where it asks how the display was calibrated, should I put BT.709 in the SDR profile, and BT.2020 in the HDR profile? If using BT.2020 for the HDR profile, should I put a checkmark in "report BT.2020 to display"?

3. Should I put a checkmark in "enable gamma processing"?

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Old 5th July 2021, 21:28   #61677  |  Link
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1. depends on your device 8 is often just the save choice.

2. if you have an nvdiia card and you are tone mapping yes send bt 2020 and this display is calibrated to BT 2020 should be correct.

3. no only matter if you want to change the gamma.
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1. depends on your device 8 is often just the save choice.



2. if you have an nvdiia card and you are tone mapping yes send bt 2020 and this display is calibrated to BT 2020 should be correct.



3. no only matter if you want to change the gamma.
Can it screw the colors up if I set it to 12 bit, instead of 8?

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Old 5th July 2021, 21:56   #61679  |  Link
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bit deep has nothing todo with color as long as your device isn't buggy no it can't.
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Old 5th July 2021, 22:16   #61680  |  Link
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bit deep has nothing todo with color as long as your device isn't buggy no it can't.
So I may as well just set it to 12 bit then?

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