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Old 7th January 2018, 15:30   #48101  |  Link
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It seems that igv finally succeeded in doing better than ngu sharp with fsrcnnx.
I literally can't see any differences...

Will madVR 1.00.00 be released this year?
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Old 7th January 2018, 15:54   #48102  |  Link
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960 or 1050ti ideally on a budget but that 950 is looking good for the price. You're downscaling so it doesn't use much processing power to do that unless you're doing 60fps or using ssim2D. I'd stick it in bicubic 150 and probably not bother with any other enhancements as you have tons of detail already.
I have no idea what i will be doing, lol. i want to get the most iq/quality of the videos, filmed with my phone, this is the mediainfo on the clips if needed,


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950 can't do HEVC in HW as I understand it...I'd say 960 if cheaper, 1050 otherwise (Ti is more expensive)
Is 1050 2gb better then GTX 750 ti 4gb, while it cost around 70$ more?

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Forget 950 or 960 the dont have HDMI 2.0b only HDMI 2.0. Grab GTX 1050Ti ( Palit makes a passive one ).
I cant afford 1050 ti at this moment.

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Why is 2.0b gonna even matter for madVR? Yeah 960/1050+ for HEVC / decent performance for sure.
960 4gb used is around same money as new 1050 2gb, what to get, or maybe even GTX 750 ti 4gb for almost 50% chaper?

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GTX 950 has the same hardware decoder as GTX 960.
So does this make the 950 2gb better vs 750 ti 4gb?

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OK. At the time I eventually purchased the GTX 960, there was a net-wide consensus it was the lowest GTX to feature a HEVC decoder
9604gb is the best option compared to the other cards?

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you can generally ignore minor HDMI difference for GPUs. it doesn't matter it is all up to the driver what type of 0 and 1 are send over the cable.

the stuff a GPU driver can't fix is HDCP which is doesn't matter to us madVR user and the bandwidth of the HDMI connector.
hdmi 2.0a-z doesn't matter as long as the bandwidth is present to send the data and the driver is able to creates the data. there is a reason kepler cards can do limited HDMI 2.0
So with my U2414h should i be worried about hdmi/dp stuff?

Thanks all!
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Old 7th January 2018, 16:07   #48103  |  Link
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So with my U2414h should i be worried about hdmi/dp stuff?
nothing i'm aware of.
a used 960 4Gb is faster than a 1050 ti and cheaper at the same time but it may not support HDr 4k netflix. sorry i'm not 100% sure how this copy protection rubbish works
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Old 7th January 2018, 16:11   #48104  |  Link
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nothing i'm aware of.
a used 960 4Gb is faster than a 1050 ti and cheaper at the same time but it may not support HDr 4k netflix. sorry i'm not 100% sure how this copy protection rubbish works
Thanks dude, i do not use Netflix online, i sometimes download tv shows, that will make the issue not existent right?
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Old 7th January 2018, 19:32   #48105  |  Link
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Old 7th January 2018, 23:44   #48106  |  Link
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Will madVR 1.00.00 be released this year?
I'd put money on it that this is a no. Next year maybe.


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a used 960 4Gb is faster than a 1050 ti
Nev said 1050ti is faster. Have you tested both cards?

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Old 8th January 2018, 03:18   #48107  |  Link
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I'm still getting reports on d3rd3vil, so I guess I should post to state that he was given strikes at the time for the latest DV post and another completely useless post, and informed that the next post on the topic would mean a ban. Let me know if it happens again; with any luck the problem is taken care of.
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Old 8th January 2018, 03:47   #48108  |  Link
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I have no idea what i will be doing, lol.
Then there's no way to give you a recommendation. Based on your one listed use-case, a 4K AVC video, anything since a 600-generation can hardware decode it perfectly, though the 900-generation can do it with even less power. I don't really know what you mean by IQ; AVC and HEVC either decode perfectly or don't. What matters is what enhancements you want MadVR to provide, and at what resolution, not what the original video is. Tell us what you expect to do to the video, then we can get an idea of what minimum baseline you'll need.

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Is 1050 2gb better then GTX 750 ti 4gb, while it cost around 70$ more?
The 1050 is definitely better in every way than the 750, including price. At Newegg, the 1050ti 4GB is actually $25 cheaper than the cheapest 750ti 2G, might pay to look around more. Unless you're talking a used 750, then you just have to weigh the extra performance and future-proofing against the price for yourself.

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I cant afford 1050 ti at this moment.
Well then why even ask? Grovel the used markets until you find something that meets your budget and performance requirements. If you can't find anything, either lower your expectations or drop it.
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Old 8th January 2018, 09:01   #48109  |  Link
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Nev said 1050ti is faster. Have you tested both cards?
no my assumption is based pure processing power and the knowable that Maxwell and Pascal do similar.
the 960 is only interesting when bought used.
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Old 8th January 2018, 15:09   #48110  |  Link
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I just saw a 390.65 driver has been released by nvidia, can't install it yet as not home.... Maybe this will finally fix HDR.
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Old 8th January 2018, 15:37   #48111  |  Link
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Finally.... Nvidia... finally....

I can report HDR on win7x64 is now correctly enabling at the start of, and disabling correctly at end of HDR movie playback with 390.65 drivers released today
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Old 8th January 2018, 15:43   #48112  |  Link
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Well that's very good news. I'll install it later and test for 3D and see if they broke anything there. LOL
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Old 8th January 2018, 17:57   #48113  |  Link
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workaround

is there any workaround 4 FS that works with fall creators update?
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Old 8th January 2018, 18:18   #48114  |  Link
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is there any workaround 4 FS that works with fall creators update?
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what do you mean by FS, full screen exclusive?
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Old 8th January 2018, 18:39   #48115  |  Link
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what do you mean by FS, full screen exclusive?
when going full screen,the screen turns black,when you right click the mouse the picture is restored,it turns black as soon as you release the mouse!
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Old 8th January 2018, 18:57   #48116  |  Link
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It seems that igv finally succeeded in doing better than ngu sharp with fsrcnnx.
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Old 8th January 2018, 19:10   #48117  |  Link
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Finally.... Nvidia... finally....

I can report HDR on win7x64 is now correctly enabling at the start of, and disabling correctly at end of HDR movie playback with 390.65 drivers released today
Tried the new drivers with my GTX1080 and not switching to HDR, before it would black screen so there's some improvement.

Have enabled FSE mode and > 10 bit for the display, tried difference HDR settings in madVR as well(decide / passthru etc..) but same results.
Could you perhaps share some of the settings needed for this to work?
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Old 8th January 2018, 19:24   #48118  |  Link
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Good news today. New NVidia driver 390.65-desktop-win10-64bit-international-whql.exe now engages and disengages HDR mode properly. The stereoscopic wizard is also functioning as intended and 3D is working fine. However, one persistent problem remains. Even though stereoscopic is enabled in NCP and W10 display properties, after playback of HDR, stereoscopic is disabled. Stereoscopic must be enabled again before 3D playback. This has been an ongoing issue since HDR was introduced. This is why I created the .bats to enable stereoscopic automatically prior to 3D playback in the guide and has been working perfectly for a year now. Tested using MPC-BE. Previously PowerDVD was engaging 3D perfectly using the script as well. With the new driver, the display reports 3D engaged but PowerDVD is rendering 2D. Color Space is correct. Desktop mode is at 60Hz RGB limited 8bit. 3D Video mode is at 24Hz with 10/12 bit using FSE. 2D Video mode is at 23Hz with D3D11 FSE 10bit and Windowed 8bit. This is all automated.

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Enable stereoscopic and wizard auto runs
Adjust 3D resolution to 1080p (24Hz should already be displayed)
Adjust native resolution to 2160p @60Hz
Under Manage 3D Settings/Program Settings - Add MPC-BE then Vertical Sync to ON
Global Tab - Set power management mode to ADAPTIVE
Adjust Image settings for QUALITY
Configure PhysX to my GTX 960
Content Type Reported leave at AUTO
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Old 8th January 2018, 19:35   #48119  |  Link
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Tried it again after reboot and TV reports HDR but madVR doesn't show it in the top left corner, also color space gets converted to DCI-P3 as in below screenshot.
Any idea what might be going wrong here?

Seems Windows isn't enabling HDR on its own, manually enabling it beforehand and it shows up in madVR but it all looks washed out then.


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Old 8th January 2018, 20:27   #48120  |  Link
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Rick164 - first thing I noticed is that you havent set a custom 23.976 resolution in MADVR, thats why you are getting 23.98xxx and dropped frames.

If you have a HDR TV or display double check you have MADR set to pass thru HDR and dont turn it on in windows, MADVR should be doing that for you.

Turn FSE off, dont need it with NVIDIA card at all.

Power cycle your TV full, if its anything like my LG OLED sometimes it gets stuck and stops triggering HDR or 3D until I full power cycle it, and I dont meab put it in standby, unplug it for a seconds. This happens about once a month for me, usually though when MADVR has crashed and it hasnt for a while now.

I'm using an RX 550 though so my experience will be different to yours, currently HDR is all working as it should on AMD cards.
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