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Old 6th August 2020, 12:51   #1  |  Link
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XviD on Windows 10 without the junk installer?

These newer versions of XviD are bloated and have some sort of horrible junk installer.

Is there a version of XviD for Windows 10 without the bloated installer?

Will older versions of XviD (v 1.22 or older) work on Windows 10?

Which do you think was the best build of XviD?
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Old 7th August 2020, 18:29   #2  |  Link
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Maybe use xvid_encraw which is a command line xvid encoder.
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XviD is an outdated codec, H.264 and H.265 are much higher quality.

Don't use XviD in 2020.
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These newer versions of XviD are bloated and have some sort of horrible junk installer.

Is there a version of XviD for Windows 10 without the bloated installer?

Will older versions of XviD (v 1.22 or older) work on Windows 10?

Which do you think was the best build of XviD?
Some options below, none of them is very-easy or convenient :-/

1) compile yourself the Xvid DLLs and install them manually through the registry;

2) use xvid_encraw.exe;

3) forget Xvid and use the olde and goode DivX 6.9.2
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I am curious what the use case is for XviD in 2020
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I am curious what the use case is for XviD in 2020
SD files to be played back on ancient decoders from the brontosaurus era is the only not totally meaningless thing I can think of xD
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SD files to be played back on ancient decoders from the brontosaurus era is the only not totally meaningless thing I can think of xD
I think I do qualify for this use case...

My ancient P3 Coppermine machine still does most things I do, but it sure does not play HD videos. So whenever I come across a HD AVC clip I convert it to SD MPEG4 ASP (XviD), and it looks pretty good to me. I either use an FFmpeg build with libXviD enabled or an old CelticDruid build of XviD (I never liked the Koepi builds). Wouldn't want to live without it...
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The cost of energy to

a) Transcode this
b) Operate an old P3 Coppermine

would quickly be saved by the cost of a modern inexpensive media streaming device, like a cheap Android TV settop box, a Roku, or an Amazon FireTV, or even a Rasberry Pi!

But hey, nothing wrong with throwing away perfectly working stuff if you don't mind the inefficiency. Eventually it becomes exotic enough that you can be a successful YouTuber
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Yeah, you are not the first one to call me "exotic"...

Of course I do own a streaming box (Xtreamer Sidewinder) connected to my old CRT TV which handles AVC HD clips just fine (It does not handle HEVC, but I do not care for HEVC anyways). And I own 3 medium age Thinkpads (T410, T510, T530) with Core i5 CPUs which handle pretty much everything I throw at them.

But I am a person who tends to get attached to technical things just as much as to human beings. My ancient desktop Big Tower machine is originally from 1993, most components have been replaced several times, but it still has its original power supply, and it still boots from a 5.25" floppy. The mainboard is from 2001, and there is no upgrade path since it is a Baby AT. But it is by far the most reliable computer I ever owned, and I will keep it as long as possible.

Compared to modern computers its power consumption is very low, and it has not the slightest tendency to overheat during days like these (almost 30° Celsius room temperature).

I already mentioned my CRT TV set which I will not replace by a modern LCD or OLED just for its natural skin tones. My motorcycle is a Yamaha XJ 900 from 1991, it has 180.000 KM on its odometer without any major repairs. I just came back from a week long trip to Austria, Italy and Switzerland driving beautiful passes in the Alpes. Needless to say that I will keep this bike as long as I can get parts.

My point is that I do not feel that I am missing anything by clinging to my old stuff. Call me "exotic" if you want...

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I am curious what the use case is for XviD in 2020
Another potential use case (albeit an increasingly uncommon one) would be playback of SD video on an Original Xbox with XBMC4Xbox, as H.264 decoding is not perfect. Interestingly, this use case also involves a computing device with a P3 (equivalent) CPU
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Another potential use case (albeit an increasingly uncommon one) would be playback of SD video on an Original Xbox with XBMC4Xbox, as H.264 decoding is not perfect. Interestingly, this use case also involves a computing device with a P3 (equivalent) CPU
Better buy a cheap "china tv box" for that. You can put openelec/libreelec on it and playback every format without converting anything.
Alternative would be Fire tv stick.
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I am curious what the use case is for XviD in 2020
For me, it's purely because of visual aesthethics. I prefer the look of XviD encoded videos (SD resolution only).

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These newer versions of XviD are bloated and have some sort of horrible junk installer.

Is there a version of XviD for Windows 10 without the bloated installer?
What do you mean by "junk installer"?
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I am curious what the use case is for XviD in 2020
It works with Virtualdub and many other programs that don't accept x264/x265

Interoperability > performance. Every time.
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What do you mean by "junk installer"?

An installer that contains an unneeded DirectShow decoder plus a superfluous GUI for the Xvid DLL.

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/...vid-1-3-3-(VFW)
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An installer that contains an unneeded DirectShow decoder plus a superfluous GUI for the Xvid DLL.
Wrong conclusion. After installation, Xvid 1.3.7 files (ax/dll x86/x64) are 2.05 megabytes in size. Utilities and text files are 471 kilobytes in size. And the installer files (autoupdate-windows.exe, uninstall.exe) are 10.2 megabytes in size.

This is a longstanding issue with the installer of the official Xvid build. Older Xvid 1.2.2 installers are less than 1 megabyte.
https://www.videohelp.com/software/X...c/old-versions
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Wrong conclusion. After installation, Xvid 1.3.7 files (ax/dll x86/x64) are 2.05 megabytes in size. Utilities and text files are 471 kilobytes in size. And the installer files (autoupdate-windows.exe, uninstall.exe) are 10.2 megabytes in size.
Many for making things clear.


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This is a longstanding issue with the installer of the official Xvid build. Older Xvid 1.2.2 installers are less than 1 megabyte.
https://www.videohelp.com/software/X...c/old-versions
I agree, an installer that is bigger than the installed files themselves is a very-serious design flaw. ¬¬
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