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Old 20th July 2016, 00:00   #38821  |  Link
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Asmodian, can i also ask you which settings you prefer for anime?
For 720p24 to 2560x1440@144Hz I am currently using:
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Chroma Upscaling: Reconstruction SharpAR + SR1
Luma Doubling: NNEDI3 256
Chroma Doubling: NNEDI3 32
Image Upscaling (not used): JincAR
Thin Edges: 0.6
Smooth Motion: On
Dithering: ED1, colored noise OFF, change dither OFF
Ordered dithering is also good. I have all artifact removal options disabled for this one, I will turn them on if the source needs it. I also play with the upscaling refinement options for different sources, I have never found a good set of 'default' settings for the refinement options. No trade quality for performance options checked.
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Old 20th July 2016, 00:03   #38822  |  Link
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Asmodian, what card allows you to use so much neurons?
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Old 20th July 2016, 01:02   #38823  |  Link
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I ordered a GTX1060 today. Will add it to my comparison end of this week...
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Old 20th July 2016, 01:22   #38824  |  Link
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Asmodian, what card allows you to use so much neurons?
He has a 980 Ti.
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Old 20th July 2016, 10:09   #38825  |  Link
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I have 2 problems with 3D playback using LAV + madvr.
Config i7-2600k + gtx980 + win 8.1, latest nightly builds of MPC-HC and LAV.
1. nvidia refresh rate problem - 23.971 instead of 23.976. in 2D mode i fixed it with 24Hz monitor refresh rate (24p instead of 23p in madvr settings) + reclock
in 3D i cant set 24Hz in madvr - 23p mode switches on automaticaly.... how can i set 24p in 3D?
2. artefacts in 3D mode in some scenes (every time in same moment). red car on screenshot is example of it. in powerdvd 16 all is ok, so its not BD3D problem. I think its decoder's problem, but not sure. how to fix this bug?
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Old 20th July 2016, 11:15   #38826  |  Link
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I ordered a GTX1060 today. Will add it to my comparison end of this week...
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Old 20th July 2016, 21:02   #38827  |  Link
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Thanks!
I'd like to know if the GTX 1060 is capable of 1080p -> 2160p with these settings:

Chroma: super-xbr100 + AR
Luma Doubling: NNEDI3 32 neurons
Image: Jinc + AR
Artifact Removal - Debanding On
Upscaling Refinement: SuperRes (3)
Dithering: Error Diffusion 2

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Old 21st July 2016, 00:33   #38828  |  Link
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Most certainly it is impossible unless you remove Error Diffusion from that list (and probably even without it).

Edit: Ok, with <= 30fps it might work.
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Old 21st July 2016, 00:47   #38829  |  Link
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i don't think error diffusion is a good idea at UHD
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Old 21st July 2016, 10:08   #38830  |  Link
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i don't think error diffusion is a good idea at UHD
Care to explain? Is there a major drawback except performance hit?

Is there a major difference with error diffusion from 1080->2160p?
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Old 21st July 2016, 10:33   #38831  |  Link
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I'd like to know if the GTX 1060 is capable of 1080p -> 2160p with these settings:

Chroma: super-xbr100 + AR
Luma Doubling: NNEDI3 32 neurons
Image: Jinc + AR
Artifact Removal - Debanding On
Upscaling Refinement: SuperRes (3)
Dithering: Error Diffusion 2
ok, I will test it. Card will arrive today



Edit:

Tested for you. File was 1920x1080 (with black bars), 23,976, 8 Bit AVC, D3D11 FSE, 10Bit mode:

27,04 ms / 140 w (with automatically detect hard coded black bars feature & crop black bars)
33,45 ms / 170 w (without detecting hard coded black bars)


tested with 1920x1080 (Avatar Mkv, real 16.9 fullscreen without black bars), 23,976, 8 Bit AVC:

34,1 ms / 172 w
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Old 21st July 2016, 11:58   #38832  |  Link
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guys, my gtx1060 arrvied. Started my testings but I have a problem:

Somone knwos how to deactivate the different powerstates of this card?

gtx1070's performance looked stable and it were scalable with powerconsumption.

with gtx1060 if got the problem, that in my first test, it starts with poerconsumption of 62 w and performance of 9,3 ms, but after some seconds it jumps form 62w to 41 w, and performance drops to 16,2 ms. seems to use a different power state. how can I deactivate this?
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guys, my gtx1060 arrvied. Started my testings but I have a problem:

Somone knwos how to deactivate the different powerstates of this card?

gtx1070's performance looked stable and it were scalable with powerconsumption.

with gtx1060 if got the problem, that in my first test, it starts with poerconsumption of 62 w and performance of 9,3 ms, but after some seconds it jumps form 62w to 41 w, and performance drops to 16,2 ms. seems to use a different power state. how can I deactivate this?
try to install NVIDIA Inspector and run the following command line:

nvidiaInspector.exe -forcepstate:0,0
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Old 21st July 2016, 18:16   #38834  |  Link
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Why would you want that ?
If power states are well done, you have nothing to do, you won't see a difference on your screen.
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Old 21st July 2016, 21:23   #38835  |  Link
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Why would you want that ?
If power states are well done, you have nothing to do, you won't see a difference on your screen.
for normal viewing it would be good. But for my comparison it is not, because I can't compare its performance with different settings to the other cards I've tested.



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try to install NVIDIA Inspector and run the following command line:

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And what command I have to write to reset it to default after my testings?
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Care to explain? Is there a major drawback except performance hit?

Is there a major difference with error diffusion from 1080->2160p?
It is only a matter of diminishing returns and increasing performance requirements.

As the pixels get smaller the benefits of ED over ordered dithering decrease and while the number of pixels goes up the performance hit does too. At UHD the first thing I would drop would be error diffusion in favor of ordered dithering.
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And what command I have to write to reset it to default after my testings?
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And what command I have to write to reset it to default after my testings?
Just reboot.
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ok, I will test it. Card will arrive today



Edit:

Tested for you. File was 1920x1080 (with black bars), 23,976, 8 Bit AVC, D3D11 FSE, 10Bit mode:

27,04 ms / 140 w (with automatically detect hard coded black bars feature & crop black bars)
33,45 ms / 170 w (without detecting hard coded black bars)


tested with 1920x1080 (Avatar Mkv, real 16.9 fullscreen without black bars), 23,976, 8 Bit AVC:

34,1 ms / 172 w
Could you please tell me the GPU/engine load and fan speed? My GTX 960 can manage this kind of settings but with high load and, by consequence, a high fan speed... meaning noise.
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Old 22nd July 2016, 00:32   #38840  |  Link
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Could you please tell me the GPU/engine load and fan speed? My GTX 960 can manage this kind of settings but with high load and, by consequence, a high fan speed... meaning noise.
1060 is about twice as fast as a 960, if you've got the cash it's a worthwhile upgrade. It may be better to give yourself headroom and a good cooler to avoid noise/heat.
Anyway.. may wish to avoid excessive talk about the 1060 here.
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