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Old 7th February 2016, 17:48   #1  |  Link
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ASIO renderer for MPC-HC

Hello.

I've been searching online for asio renderer for MPC-HC for some time, as some of you.
Couple of weeks ago I've stumbled upon Multichannel DirectShow ASIO Renderer.
There are both 32 and 64bit versions.

"Official" page and download link:
http://blog.familie-buchberger.at/20...asio-renderer/
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Old 7th February 2016, 21:15   #2  |  Link
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i just tried it...
im not shure w´hy that is but i cant seem to get 5.1 output with it..
it allways gives out 2.0






in LAV it also reports input 6 and output 2.

i cant see where the error is, as soon as i select the normal audio renderer again, i have back my 5.1...

if you find a solution or can make an little tutorial how you managed to set it up, i would really like that..

greetz
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Old 7th February 2016, 22:30   #3  |  Link
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I'm not sure about that since I don't have multichannel config.
The guy who made this renderer has I think 16 speakers (that's the main reason to make it), the max is 24 channels. So I'm sure this is working for multichannel audio.

Now, my sound card is 8 channel (7.1) but I'm using just stereo. In output volume I see Channel 1 to Channel 8 and also in Channel Mapping I see all 8 channels.

Check LAV Audio decoder setting, maybe you have something wrong set there (mixing to stereo or whatever)?
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Old 7th February 2016, 22:40   #4  |  Link
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yeah, allready did that.. LAV is set up for multichannel, stereo mixing is OFF..
windows is also set to 5.1 as is the soundcard..

not shure whats wrong

i even tried different players..

maybe i have to enable the "audio creation mode" in my creative panel..
not shure, ill try this later..

Thanks for teh reply doh..
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Old 8th February 2016, 01:54   #5  |  Link
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yeah, allready did that.. LAV is set up for multichannel, stereo mixing is OFF..
windows is also set to 5.1 as is the soundcard..

not shure whats wrong

i even tried different players..

maybe i have to enable the "audio creation mode" in my creative panel..
not shure, ill try this later..

Thanks for teh reply doh..
It's probably asio driver for your sound card. I have Xonar and ESI soundcardd (both 7.1) and without any additional setting I see all 8 channels in asio renderer properties.
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Old 8th February 2016, 20:28   #6  |  Link
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yep, it was teh "audio creation mode"..

i have a native ASIO card (xfi-gamer) and i had to put it in audio creation mode, now it works..
Well, i have 18 output channels now,lol..

really nice renderer from what i tested, love the "virtual speaker room" option...
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Old 9th February 2016, 17:52   #7  |  Link
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It can not be used on XP? I suggest you to use ASIO Cable 1.1 (lastest) instead.
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Old 9th February 2016, 21:18   #8  |  Link
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It can not be used on XP? I suggest you to use ASIO Cable 1.1 (lastest) instead.
I didn't try it on XP, it says Windows All on Softpedia page. I don't see a reason why wouldn't it run in XP.
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I didn't try it on XP, it says Windows All on Softpedia page. I don't see a reason why wouldn't it run in XP.
I think ASIO Cable is perfect on 2K~10.
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I think ASIO Cable is perfect on 2K~10.
Can you provide link where I can download it?

Thanks.
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Old 11th February 2016, 09:50   #11  |  Link
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Can you provide link where I can download it?

Thanks.
It's been so long. I just forgot where I d/led it and where I put the installer into.
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Can you provide link where I can download it?

Thanks.
http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/Cable/
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Old 13th February 2016, 03:35   #13  |  Link
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Not this one. This one I had tried before, and it was not perfect. The one I said is stop developing from 2012, because no need.
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After install, see pic:
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Amazing!!! This tool just published ver 1.28 in 14th, Feb. Fixed the problem in XP. Is the developer here?
But I still do NOT recommend this tool, because this tool is writen by .NET, and is NOT a standard DirectShow filter.
It can NOT be loaded as a filter in Ext. Fitlers of MPC.

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Dear nijiko,
What exactly do you mean when you say that the renderer is not loadable as external filter in MPC-HC? Can you give detailed descriptions, so I can reproduce the error.
Concerning your statement about .NET: The fact that the filter is written in .NET language does not mean that it is no "standard" filter. It's the same as any other directshow filter, also technically, but just wrapped in a .NET dll, which does not make much of a difference. By the way, what do you exactly mean by stating that it's not a "standard" filter?

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Amazing!!! This tool just published ver 1.28 in 14th, Feb. Fixed the problem in XP. Is the developer here?

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Dear nijiko,
What exactly do you mean when you say that the renderer is not loadable as external filter in MPC-HC? Can you give detailed descriptions, so I can reproduce the error.
Concerning your statement about .NET: The fact that the filter is written in .NET language does not mean that it is no "standard" filter. It's the same as any other directshow filter, also technically, but just wrapped in a .NET dll, which does not make much of a difference. By the way, what do you exactly mean by stating that it's not a "standard" filter?

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Welp, looks like you got your developer answer .
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Dear nijiko,
What exactly do you mean when you say that the renderer is not loadable as external filter in MPC-HC? Can you give detailed descriptions, so I can reproduce the error.
Concerning your statement about .NET: The fact that the filter is written in .NET language does not mean that it is no "standard" filter. It's the same as any other directshow filter, also technically, but just wrapped in a .NET dll, which does not make much of a difference. By the way, what do you exactly mean by stating that it's not a "standard" filter?

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Thank you for your attention.
Your renderer can't be registered by regsvr32 command.
And in MPC -> "Option" -> "Ext Filters",
Your renderer can't be loaded for "Add Filter" both by file and after install.
So I call it NON-standard.
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Old 16th June 2020, 01:50   #19  |  Link
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This thread was inactive for more than 4 years.
But there's new version 3 of Multichannel Asio Renderer which looks to be completely rewritten to mitigate issues from previous versions (phase shift and occasional cracklings).
New version is now shareware, license costs 30e with trial period of 10 days.
Also new official webpage and support forum are on https://www.mb-software.at/

Although GUI is almost identical to previous versions there are some new features, like high quality Lancoz resampler, and Automatic Gain Control.
Virtual Speaker Room was there in previous versions as well, and can be used to fine tune setup depending on position of speakers.

Here are couple of screenshots.


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Old 18th June 2020, 14:09   #20  |  Link
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With MPC-HC and MPC-BE there was a problem with internal Audioswitcher - if turned on, then MBSE Multichannel ASIO Renderer will not be loaded.
In MPC-HC you can turn internal Audioswitcher off in the options, in MPC-BE this is not possible and you must use a work around in that you need to select "Dual output" and use MBSE Multichannel ASIO Renderer as primary and Null Renderer as secondary audio renderer. This way, MPC-BE will not add the internal Audioswitcher and MBSE Multichannel ASIO Renderer will be loaded.

However, with new release of MPC-HC 1.9.5 this bug was fixed, and in MPC-BE it will be fixed in next version:
https://github.com/clsid2/mpc-hc/issues/463
https://sourceforge.net/p/mpcbe/tickets/644/
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