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17th August 2014, 04:11 | #1443 | Link | ||
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Sorry for the late responses, I've been away for a while.
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I don't really mind the existence of the various Avisynth filters and such, but most parts are just so fundamentally badly designed. (Note that plenty of pixel shaders, including mine are/were just as bad.) Modern video renderers should have absolutely no need for some reference Y'CbCr, R'G'B' or RGB format. The display R'G'B' format is important to video renderers that present images, of course. When relating to display R'G'B' color management (and unfortunately dithering) should be used to change the rendered image into the presentable image. Of course, when dealing with the horrible quality of consumer-grade video sources, some denoising and debanding in Y'CbCr to get rid of purely digital artifacts (in the earliest stages of rendering) is useful. Many filters are unfortunately using Y'CbCr as something that actually represents color, or worse, a linear light model (e.g. as required by resizing filters). It simply doesn't work that way, as anyone with decent knowledge of color theory will agree with. What I find the worst about these filters is that decent quantization is lost at the end, and with most filters in between stages as well, with on top of that the common losses of the negative and positive overshoot of the common Y'CbCr format of {[16, 235], [16, 240], [16, 240]} in filtering and converting to R'G'B'. (A correct video-standard Y'CbCr to video-standard R'G'B' conversion leads to signals below 0% and above 100%. As video R'G'B' isn't display R'G'B' and both not even close to the complete-gamut color systems, these overshoots are useful.) As I said, I don't mind the existence of these filters, but given the archaic rendering methods they employ, I'm certainly never going to endorse using them. Quote:
I typically use this filter for an example why to stay away from all of such filters.
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17th August 2014, 04:42 | #1444 | Link | |
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But now what i must do? I have to use a " archaic video chain" that give me an outstanding PQ or..... I have to use a "technically perfect chain" that give me a very good PQ? What is the goal? The use of the video chain and the theories..... or watching a film with best possible quality? |
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17th August 2014, 05:17 | #1445 | Link |
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My aim is to eliminate archaic rendering methods (while still keep a great repertoire of possible filtering options). Partially by writing filters myself, partially by educating, and maybe by finally convincing the consumer-grade image, audio and video standards committees that what they've been standardizing has not been sensible in any way compared to professional formats of the past multiple decades.
I wouldn't quite only say "archaic video chain" for this case, but rather one chain and yet another one after that (and the bottleneck in between them). A technically perfect chain (singular) would certainly help. Oh well, as you might expect by now, I'm rather picky. I personally use some enhancements too, but there are even more filters that I won't use. Luckily I can simply write pretty much any filter for myself, as long as it's computationally not too expensive.
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17th August 2014, 08:18 | #1446 | Link |
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Would it be possible to allow the Play/Pause hotkey to start playback on first open similar to the Play hotkey?
This has been something which has bothered me off and on for years now. For whatever reason only the single function Play hotkey can start playback on first open, while the Play/Pause hotkey can only start playback after it's been started and stopped once by other means. This never made much sense to me, and I've never been able to figure out a workaround to allow a single hotkey to start playback on first open without losing the pause dual functionality which I'd consider even more important then the former. The behavior I desire:
While I would like to see this changed in a future official build, but for all I know this restriction on the Play/Pause hotkey was intentional for some reason? Either way, any help would be appreciated, even if it's only pointing out the related code/changes required so I could compile a personal build with the modified behavior I desire. Last edited by cyberbeing; 17th August 2014 at 16:53. |
17th August 2014, 11:51 | #1447 | Link | |
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18th August 2014, 12:15 | #1448 | Link |
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@cyberbeing: IIRC it has been designed this way. "play" command builds graph and all sort of jazz and "play/pause" just pause or start the graph. I guess we can change this behavior. I will look later at the code.
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18th August 2014, 13:47 | #1449 | Link |
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Ah okay, well if this is impractical to change for whatever reason, it may make sense to at least more accurately rename the hotkey and menu entries from "Play/Pause" to "Pause/Resume". Though that wouldn't resolve my qualms with the current behavior, it would at least eliminate any confusion why that hotkey is incapable of actually starting playback (Play) of the video. Though another key point here, is from an accessibility standpoint, there should be a way to start playback by default via the keyboard alone, even if that means entering the menu (something like 'ALT+P + ENTER' if 'Play' was added to the first entry in that menu).
Thanks for the response kasper93, the context of the current behavior was exactly what I was looking for before I create a ticket. Once I collect my thoughts, I'll plan to do that tomorrow. Last edited by cyberbeing; 18th August 2014 at 13:49. |
24th August 2014, 03:23 | #1450 | Link |
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Just updated to the last nightly from 1.7.6.82
Now when the player doesn't have any files opened (for example just after launching it) the logo is resized to the window size, so it looks horrible. 1.7.6.82: 1.7.6.164: Any suggestions? |
24th August 2014, 15:20 | #1451 | Link |
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streaming
I'm not sure if this is a LAV issue or not but I cannot get video to stream in the latest MPC-HC (1.7.6.162). I'm pretty sure that at least Windows Media streams were working at some point on an older build...
Music (M3U, PLS, AAC, OGG) play fine but RealMedia and .asx do not play. Here is a page with RealMedia, Windows Media, and Quicktime samples. None of them play for me in MPC-HC: http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/streaming/#RealMedia Also, when saving a playlist in MPC-HC itself as .asx, the playlist does not open... Any ideas? |
1st September 2014, 21:46 | #1457 | Link |
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Good evening.
With the latest version "MPC-HC.1.7.6.211" I have detected a problem with the subtitles "Pgs" blu-ray or MKV HD lossless. The facts are these: If the film is done from the beginning, without making any pause, the subtitles are detected and everything works fine. Instead, if I launch the movie and hit the pause button and then resume from the same point, the subtitles are no longer detected. For the moment I solved this problem by reinstalling the previous version "MPC-HC.1.7.6.71." with this version does not have this problem. I ask if it can be solved with later versions. Thank you Last edited by DMD; 1st September 2014 at 23:13. |
2nd September 2014, 00:17 | #1459 | Link |
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I think that is fixed in todays nightly.
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