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Old 17th July 2019, 16:07   #1  |  Link
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How to scale 2160p i420 to 1080p i444 without rescaling chroma (UV) components?

So, since the UV components in a YUV i420 source are half the resolution of the full-res luma (Y′) component:

How does one re-scale a i420 2160p source to a i444 1080p source without re-scaling the UV components thus keeping their original quality/resolution/detail/...?
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This is it in avisynth, but methinks that it might need some kind of chroma shift to be properley standard.
Code:
ColorBars(pixel_Type="YV12")
U=UToY8
V=VToY8
Y=Spline36Resize(Width/2,Height/2)        # Some Resizer
YtoUV(U,V,Y)    # Just uses Y channel from Y clip
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This is it in avisynth, but methinks that it might need some kind of chroma shift to be properley standard.
Code:
ColorBars(pixel_Type="YV12")
U=UToY8
V=VToY8
Y=Spline36Resize(Width/2,Height/2)        # Some Resizer
YtoUV(U,V,Y)    # Just uses Y channel from Y clip
info
Hey StainlessS,

Thanks for the reply and helping me out (again)!
Just to be sure, this supports 10 and 12bit sources?
Also, is it possible to do this with vapoursynth? Since I've read it has better support for high bitrates (I've configured staxrip to use vapoursynth).
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Sorry, no idea how to do it in vapoursynth, me never tried it.

but
Code:
ColorBars(width=1440,height=1080,pixel_Type="YV12")
BITS=16    # Or 10, or 12, or 14, dont work with 32 for some reason. EDIT: Yes it does. VDub2 loads ok.
ConvertBits(BITS)
U=UToY    # EDIT: Changed UToY8 to UToY, still worked for some strange reason, probably should have thrown error @ YtoUV()
V=VToY    # EDIT: Changed VToY8 to VToY
Y=Spline36Resize(Width/2,Height/2)        # Some Resizer
YtoUV(U,V,Y)                              # Just uses Y channel from Y clip
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EDIT: I imagine that the function names to do similar are not so very different.
EDIT: Works with BITS=32, was the player that failed, VDub2 loads ok.
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The approach is the same, but core.std.ShufflePlanes is used for plane extraction, and if you don't want to do something with colors, there is no need to extract UV planes at all.
source = <some source filter>
Y = core.std.ShufflePlanes(source, 0, vs.GRAY)
Y = core.resize.Spline36(Y, 1920, 1080)
clip1080 = core.std.ShufflePlanes([Y, source], [0,1,2], vs.YUV)
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Thanks to the both of you

I got it working in StaxRip with some very minor editing. (Had to change the name of source clip variable... just added a '1' behind it and rename 'clip1080' to 'clip' so that StaxRip sees it correctly as the output).
Just posting it here in case if someone else gets into the same StaxRip error I had without the adjustment. (this is assuming you use a ffms2 source)

Code:
clip1 = core.ffms2.Source(r"%source_file%", cachefile = r"%source_temp_file%.ffindex")
source = clip1
Y = core.std.ShufflePlanes(source, 0, vs.GRAY)
Y = core.resize.Spline36(Y, 1920, 1080)
clip = core.std.ShufflePlanes([Y, source], [0,1,2], vs.YUV)

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Comparison of result with saturation boosted (to better show the difference).


Can make quite a noticeable difference especially with HDR.

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Was curious about doing this, and this seemed the most recent thread...

Trying out StainlessS' second AVS script, it seems to work well:



Here's a 1080p 4:4:4 script scaled back up to 2160p (with a slight zoom) for comparison's sake. It keeps more of the reds (very noticeable in the shirt), while a simple z.lib resizer kills a lot of it, and merges them with the surrounding colors. It's even keeping a tiny bit of the red on the makeup pen

Script:
Code:
DGSource("Test.dgi")
U=UToY
V=VToY
Y=z_Spline36Resize(Width/2,Height/2)
YtoUV(U,V,Y)
Source file: 2160p/HEVC/8-bit/BT.709

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...it might need some kind of chroma shift to be properley standard.
I was curious about this comment though, wanted to make sure I'm doing it right. Should we be shifting the chroma/chromaloc at some point? My sources are all top-left chroma
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Trying out StainlessS' second AVS script, it seems to work well:

Here's a 1080p 4:4:4 script scaled back up to 2160p (with a slight zoom) for comparison's sake. It keeps more of the reds (very noticeable in the shirt), while a simple z.lib resizer kills a lot of it, and merges them with the surrounding colors. It's even keeping a tiny bit of the red on the makeup pen

Script:
Code:
DGSource("Test.dgi")
U=UToY
V=VToY
Y=z_Spline36Resize(Width/2,Height/2)
YtoUV(U,V,Y)
Source file: 2160p/HEVC/8-bit/BT.709


I see the difference in your screenshots, but I cannot reproduce that difference on some random camera UHD source. There are negligible difference using subtract(a,b) for me. It might be different versions of plugins, or avs version, not sure

If there was a material difference between the methods, you should be able to use subtract(a,b) and see difference on a synthetic test like colorbarshd

Can you reproduce it on this

Code:
ColorBarsHD(3840, 2160)
ConvertToYV12()
U=UToY
V=VToY
Y=z_Spline36Resize(Width/2,Height/2)
YtoUV(U,V,Y)
a=last

ColorBarsHD(3840, 2160)
ConvertToYV12()
BITS=16    # Or 10, or 12, or 14, dont work with 32 for some reason. EDIT: Yes it does. VDub2 loads ok.
ConvertBits(BITS)
U=UToY    # EDIT: Changed UToY8 to UToY, still worked for some strange reason, probably should have thrown error @ YtoUV()
V=VToY    # EDIT: Changed VToY8 to VToY
Y=Spline36Resize(Width/2,Height/2)        # Some Resizer
YtoUV(U,V,Y)
ConvertBits(8)
b=last

subtract(a,b)
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