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Old 23rd May 2015, 00:58   #2221  |  Link
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New version, D3D exclusive lockup, and XYSubFilter bug

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@AnimeViewer, do you still get the lockup problem when you go into of FSE mode?
I installed the the most recent version (v2.26.3) on top of my previous version (using the new installer), and still had the problem. I wiped out (uninstalled) MPDN from control panel, and then went into my MPDN profile settings (in C:\Users\Myname\AppData\Local and deleted the MediaPlayerDotNet directory (to reset everything). It worked in that default state (D3D 9Ex), but when I try either of the other (D3D 10.1 or D3D 11) its back to freezing the window/screen (except sometimes I can hear audio still playing).

On another note XYSubFilter seems to be a problem in the new version. When subtitles are on the screen the rest of the screen (aside from the subtitles) turns black. When characters stop talking (thus no subtitles) the video appear back on the screen, but the minute the subtitles appear again the screen turns black again until the subtitles disappear off the screen.
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Old 23rd May 2015, 02:09   #2222  |  Link
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Black Screen

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What happened? All I get is black screen & audio
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Old 23rd May 2015, 02:45   #2223  |  Link
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Did you guys use the installer? I suspect it may be due to a bad XySubFilter version. I'll investigate later when I get done time. In the meantime, try downloading another version of the filter and install that instead.

@animeviewer did you manage to get the dump file when it locked up? It should crash on purpose when it detects a lockup after about 5 seconds. You'll then get a dump file. Check my post a few pages back.
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Old 23rd May 2015, 03:15   #2224  |  Link
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It wasn't the xysubfilter. Its something else. Reverted back to its predecessor. Everything is ok now
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Old 23rd May 2015, 03:16   #2225  |  Link
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Well then it's certainly something I'm not experiencing on my end. Is the OSD showing?

Anyway I'll investigate.
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Old 23rd May 2015, 03:20   #2226  |  Link
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Yes OSD is fine
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Old 23rd May 2015, 03:26   #2227  |  Link
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So just to confirm, 2.26.2 was fine?

Can you also zip up your MPDN config folder so I could use the same settings to try and replicate the problem?
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Old 23rd May 2015, 03:32   #2228  |  Link
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So just to confirm, 2.26.2 was fine?

Can you also zip up your MPDN config folder so I could use the same settings to try and replicate the problem?
Yes! Working perfectly for now
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Old 23rd May 2015, 03:35   #2229  |  Link
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You might wanna upload the file on a file upload website, that way I don't have to wait for the attachment to be approved.
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Old 23rd May 2015, 03:41   #2230  |  Link
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2.26.2 -> works great
2.26.3 -> turn on any render script even blank one=no video only audio and xysubfilter blinking picture as explained by Anime Viewer

By blank one I mean you can select image processor with no shaders and the moment you press apply blank picture.

Great player BTW :-)

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Old 23rd May 2015, 03:57   #2231  |  Link
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Thanks for the report. Appreciate it.

In the meantime, I'd recommend just to use 2.26.2 for now until I sort out the issues with the latest version.
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@animeviewer did you manage to get the dump file when it locked up? It should crash on purpose when it detects a lockup after about 5 seconds. You'll then get a dump file. Check my post a few pages back.
It doesn't appear to create any dump file (I'm not sure that it detects a crash). Since it locks the screen (keyboard still works for capslock, numlock , ctrl+alt+delete, alt-tabing (even though it will not switch to anything else. Unless you choose ctrl+alt+del and choose log-off. At that time you can alt-tab between windows, but can't interact or navigate on any of them. The MPDN app shows in the taskbar, but right-clicking on it and choosing close all windows will not do anything (it doesn't react). The only way to shut out of it is to tell it to switch users (or restart). As far as I can tell it didn't create any file in the user config folder, nor the install location of MPDN.
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Was the mouse cursor showing a wait cursor or was it a normal pointer cursor? The next time it happens, could you wait for 30 seconds and see if it manages to detect that it's locked up?
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Old 23rd May 2015, 11:07   #2234  |  Link
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So my TV accepts 12 bit input at <24hz but Nvidia's drivers don't remember the previous setting at that refresh rate.
Any chance of having MPDN be able to set the bit depth output of the graphics card via the display changer?
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Old 23rd May 2015, 11:10   #2235  |  Link
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2.26.2 -> works great
2.26.3 -> turn on any render script even blank one=no video only audio and xysubfilter blinking picture as explained by Anime Viewer

By blank one I mean you can select image processor with no shaders and the moment you press apply blank picture.

Great player BTW :-)
Exact same issue here!
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Was the mouse cursor showing a wait cursor or was it a normal pointer cursor? The next time it happens, could you wait for 30 seconds and see if it manages to detect that it's locked up?
No, the mouse cursor does not show during the MPDN freeze. I've waited longer than 30 seconds (a few minutes with nothing changing).
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Exact same issue here!
Fixed in v2.26.4.
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Old 23rd May 2015, 15:21   #2238  |  Link
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No, the mouse cursor does not show during the MPDN freeze. I've waited longer than 30 seconds (a few minutes with nothing changing).
OK try this when you have the chance. When it locks up, double click the full screen windows a few time. Then wait for 30 seconds. If it still doesn't auto-terminate, it probably means something terminal has occurred...
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OK try this when you have the chance. When it locks up, double click the full screen windows a few time. Then wait for 30 seconds. If it still doesn't auto-terminate, it probably means something terminal has occurred...
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It froze again, and I double clicked (when there is a nonexistent mouse cursor during the initial freeze), and nothing ever happened). After I did switch user to were it is still running, and I double clicked on it on the taskbar (again with no change, and it not switching to it) I again waited 30+ seconds but nothing ever happened. Task Manager in that state reports it as not responding, but it never times out (and just like how I can't interact with MPDN I can't interact act with any other programs except to switching to them with alt-tab, but I can't do anything other than display their windows - for example I can't scroll or type anything on this forum), and can't close out of them during that non-responsive MPDN state.

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Odd. It doesn't appear to occur with one file I have tested (with the following properties).
Code:
Unique ID            : 0
Complete name        : (file name omitted)
Format               : Matroska
File size            : 157209197
Duration             : 1452199
Overall bit rate     : 866048
Encoded date         : 2/22/2010 9:41:29 PM
Writing application  : no_variable_data
Writing library      : no_variable_data

Video
ID                   : 1
Format               : AVC
Format profile       : Main@L3.1
Format settings      : CABAC / 6 Ref Frames
Codec ID             : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration             : 1452202
Bit rate             : 0
Width                : 848
Height               : 480
Display aspect ratio : 1.006
Frame rate mode      : CFR
Frame rate           : 23.976
Chroma subsampling   : 4:2:0
Bit depth            : 8
Scan type            : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)   : 0
Stream size          : 
Writing library      : x264 - core 120 r2120 0c7dab9
Encoding settings    : cabac=1 / ref=6 / deblock=1:1:1 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=umh / subme=8 / psy=1 / psy_rd=0.40:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=4 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=768 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=1536 / vbv_bufsize=3840 / nal_hrd=none / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:0.60
Language             : 

Audio
ID                   : 2
Format               : AAC
Codec ID             : A_AAC
Duration             : 1452199
Bit rate mode        : 
Bit rate             : 0
Channel(s)           : 2
Sampling rate        : 44100
Bit depth            : 0
Compression mode     : Lossy
Stream size          : 0
Language             : 

Subtitle
ID                   : 3
Format               : ASS
Muxing Mode          : 
Codec ID             : S_TEXT/ASS
Language             :
But appears to occur with every other file I test. (For example):
Code:
Unique ID            : 199100304361845660068191694678274133701
Complete name        : (file name ommited)
Format               : Matroska
File size            : 474810722
Duration             : 1440000
Overall bit rate     : 2637837
Encoded date         : 5/17/2015 11:53:54 AM
Writing application  : mkvmerge v7.7.0 ('Six Voices') 32bit built on Feb 28 2015 23:23:00
Writing library      : libebml v1.3.1 + libmatroska v1.4.2

Video
ID                   : 18041449390369659311
Format               : AVC
Format profile       : Main@L4.1
Format settings      : CABAC / 6 Ref Frames
Codec ID             : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration             : 1439982
Bit rate             : 0
Width                : 1280
Height               : 720
Display aspect ratio : 1
Frame rate mode      : CFR
Frame rate           : 23.976
Chroma subsampling   : 4:2:0
Bit depth            : 8
Scan type            : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)   : 0
Stream size          : 
Writing library      : x264 - core 142 r2479 dd79a61
Encoding settings    : cabac=1 / ref=6 / deblock=1:1:1 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=0.40:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=5 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=2432 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=50000 / vbv_bufsize=62500 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:0.60
Language             : ja

Audio
ID                   : 15032933852594981766
Format               : AAC
Codec ID             : A_AAC
Duration             : 1440000
Bit rate mode        : 
Bit rate             : 0
Channel(s)           : 2
Sampling rate        : 48000
Bit depth            : 0
Compression mode     : Lossy
Stream size          : 0
Language             : ja

Subtitle
Edit:
On the frozen video screen if I have CTRL+J active it shows the Render queue at 0/12 at the point it switched and froze. Running with "Use new windowed mode rendering path when possible" unchecked the problem doesn't appear to occur in the second video - that normally freezes. **edit: scratch that...it still occurred with new mode unchecked, but for some reason that one time it didn't.

Edit:
Anyone else noticing Fluid Motion fluctuating on and off almost every second when watching 23.976Hz files on 59/60Hz screens? (Its actually causing Judder (and tons of dropped and delayed frames - probably as a result of the constant switching on and off) on my screen as opposed to the same video running smoothly with it turned off).
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Hey Zach

Do you know where I can download denoise shader for your player? Maye other shaders as well too? Thanks a lot
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