VirtualDub2

[Midzuki]

Originally Posted by shekh

I thought about this and renaming "VirtualDub.exe" still does not look more appealing. It is 50/50 to me (no go).

In any case, I sorted various occurences of "VirtualDub" which I have to consider. Comments enabled. https://sourceforge.net/p/vdfiltermod/tickets/101/

That's fine. I will keep NOT using your mod, even though it is better than the original VirtualDub.

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[wonkey_monkey]

Originally Posted by shekh

You cannot zoom less than to fill entire window and it means with small picture you have no options at all. With 1920 picture on 1920 screen you can zoom 100, 150, 200 etc. Not 75.

Oh... well, that would be a really useful change if it could be possible. Otherwise it's impossible to view all of a video at the right aspect ratio unless it happens to match your screen.

[LigH]

Is this now officially "Quengelware" (pester power item)?

[shekh]

Originally Posted by davidhorman

Oh... well, that would be a really useful change if it could be possible. Otherwise it's impossible to view all of a video at the right aspect ratio unless it happens to match your screen.

I agree but it is quite difficult to do.

[wonkey_monkey]

Originally Posted by shekh

I agree but it is quite difficult to do.

Fair enough! Thanks again for your continuing efforts!

[GMJCZP]

I look forward to this program in the near future can coexist with other versions of VDub and VDubMod (adding to contextual menu), but at this rate I think they will go to eternal rest, lol.

I have a proposal, is it possible to add the "Streams" menu, including "Stream list" command, like the one VirtualDubMod has, this is one of the reasons why I still use it, the other one is for the script editor, which already has VDub 2.

[StainlessS]

I look forward to this program in the near future can coexist with other versions of VDub and VDubMod

It never proved much of a problem for me (having just banished about 3 versions of Vdub from my machine), only ever problem
may have been context menu opening, and even that was easily solved with a registry fix.
I had about 4 or 5 versions all avialable via hotkeys. just needed to copy the directory, and uninstall, then make shortcuts and
add hotkeys. Easy peasy, but no longer necessary due to the fantabulous fan-dabby-dozy Vdub2

EDIT: I used to rename VirtualDubFilterMod to VirtualDub_DEEP.exe for use with the reg fix
(just so I knew which option to click in open with menu).

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally Posted by GMJCZP

I look forward to this program in the near future can coexist with other versions of VDub and VDubMod...

I'm with StainlessS. Up until this weekend I ran the last version of the original VirtualDub and VirtualDub2 both launched ok from the 'taskbar' and ran without any major issues. Now it's just VirtualDub2

[shekh]

Originally Posted by GMJCZP

I have a proposal, is it possible to add the "Streams" menu, including "Stream list" command, like the one VirtualDubMod has, this is one of the reasons why I still use it, the other one is for the script editor, which already has VDub 2.

Currently this feature (multiple streams) is very far.

[Revan654]

I would Thank anyone who put work into this and picked up where VDub left off. I was hoping someone would pick it up at some point, Didn't even know VDub2 even existed until I came across this while searching for another encoder.

I do have one question if someone could answer this. I couldn't find any subject on the matter. Is there any kind of support for HDR capturing or planned support? I do have a HDR capture card I was wondering if I could use this program to capture a HDR signal.

- Thanks

[shekh]

Originally Posted by Revan654

I would Thank anyone who put work into this and picked up where VDub left off. I was hoping someone would pick it up at some point, Didn't even know VDub2 even existed until I came across this while searching for another encoder.

I do have one question if someone could answer this. I couldn't find any subject on the matter. Is there any kind of support for HDR capturing or planned support? I do have a HDR capture card I was wondering if I could use this program to capture a HDR signal.

- Thanks

Hi, I am not sure about HDR capture specifics. There is selection for 10 bit and 16 bit input formats (confirmed to work with Magewell and some Decklink drivers). Is this what are you looking for?
Possible formats are v210, P210, P216, P010, P016, v410, Y410, Y416, r210, R10k.
If you need to capture any HDR metadata, this is absent.

[GMJCZP]

StainlesS, here I have what originally shekh sent me via PM, includes the files .avi and .avs:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\VirtualDub2.media.x86\shell\open\command]
@="\"C:\\Program Files\\GordianKnot\\VirtualDub2_41489\\VirtualDub.exe\" \"%1\""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.avi\OpenWithProgids]
"VirtualDub2.media.x86"=hex(0):

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.avs\OpenWithProgids]
"VirtualDub2.media.x86"=hex(0):

It is only defined for 32b.

I have a script that I have that VD 1.10.4 opens very slowly and VDMod opens it in better way, but VD2 opens it up much better. I think it's time to let VD 1.10.4 die in peace.

[StainlessS]

Good choice mine already gone.

[Yanak]

Done, VersionInfo updated.

I know i'm a bit late but thank you very much for this and all the rest
( did not had time to install yet as not on my machine tho )

[Revan654]

Originally Posted by shekh

Hi, I am not sure about HDR capture specifics. There is selection for 10 bit and 16 bit input formats (confirmed to work with Magewell and some Decklink drivers). Is this what are you looking for?
Possible formats are v210, P210, P216, P010, P016, v410, Y410, Y416, r210, R10k.
If you need to capture any HDR metadata, this is absent.

Yes I would need the metadata(Atlease I think I do, not 100% sure). I know shortly Magewell will be releasing there new SDK that has fully HDR support. Maybe that can be added in?

I don't know how the programming works with SDK or how VDub 2 is programmed in general.

I found this from Magewell Maybe you can make sense of it.

"If you have the ability or the experience on how to preview the HDR signal,you do not need to wait for our SDK.
In our SDK,you will know how to capture the HDR singal ,and we will provide a filter to present the recorded video.

We will provide the HDR preview filter,render,and a series of examples in our SDK. We just provide a way to show/record the HDR video.How to integrate HDR fuction into the third-party software is your job.You just provide the filter and render on Microsoft Directshow based software,such as GraphEdit."

^an EDID file must be uploaded to the card first, Which is the easy task. It figuring out how to capture the HDR signal which has been confusing.

[shekh]

Originally Posted by Revan654

If you have the ability or the experience on how to preview the HDR signal

Sad part it's exactly what I don't have. I loosely follow various hdr-related threads but I still have no clue how HDR10 metadata is stored in video and what it might look like.
The capture in vd2 is (mostly) based on DirectShow (much like GraphEdit), so the talk about preview filters etc. makes sense to me.

[Revan654]

Originally Posted by shekh

Sad part it's exactly what I don't have. I loosely follow various hdr-related threads but I still have no clue how HDR10 metadata is stored in video and what it might look like.
The capture in vd2 is (mostly) based on DirectShow (much like GraphEdit), so the talk about preview filters etc. makes sense to me.

I think filter can be built for HDR, I'm just not sure how.

I been searching on the subject matter. It gets very confusing at times.

This is what the HDR section of metadatalooks like:

Mastering display color primaries : R: x=0.680000 y=0.320000, G: x=0.265000 y=0.690000, B: x=0.150000 y=0.060000, White point: x=0.312700 y=0.329000
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0200 cd/m2, max: 1200.0000 cd/m2

Entire Video Metadata

Video
ID : 256 (0x100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : HEVC
Format/Info? : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
Codec ID : 36
Duration : 2 s 83 ms
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Writing library : ATEME Titan KFE 3.7.0 (4.7.0.2002)
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : SMPTE ST 2084
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : R: x=0.680000 y=0.320000, G: x=0.265000 y=0.690000, B: x=0.150000 y=0.060000, White point: x=0.312700 y=0.329000
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0200 cd/m2, max: 1200.0000 cd/m2

More Here: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/5831

HDR used by Youtube with MKV looks like this:

+ EBML head
|+ EBML version: 1
|+ EBML read version: 1
|+ EBML maximum ID length: 4
|+ EBML maximum size length: 8
|+ Doc type: webm
|+ Doc type version: 4
|+ Doc type read version: 2
+ Segment, size 29548815
|+ Seek head (subentries will be skipped)
|+ EbmlVoid (size: 45)
|+ Segment information
| + Timecode scale: 1000000
| + Duration: 154.538s (00:02:34.538)
| + Multiplexing application: google
| + Writing application: google
|+ Segment tracks
| + A track
| + Track number: 1 (track ID for mkvmerge & mkvextract: 0)
| + Track UID: 11717489602804838
| + Track type: video
| + Default duration: 16.683ms (59.940 frames/fields per second for a video track)
| + Codec ID: V_VP9
| + Video track
| + Pixel width: 1280
| + Pixel height: 720
| + Video colour information
| + Colour matrix: 9
| + Colour range: 1
| + Colour transfer: 16
| + Colour primaries: 9
| + Video colour mastering metadata
| + Max luminance: 1000
| + Min luminance: 0.001
| + Red colour coordinate x: 0.68
| + Red colour coordinate y: 0.31996
| + Green colour coordinate x: 0.26494
| + Green colour coordinate y: 0.68996
| + Blue colour coordinate x: 0.15
| + Blue colour coordinate y: 0.05998
| + White colour coordinate x: 0.3127
| + White colour coordinate y: 0.32896
|+ Cues (subentries will be skipped)
|+ Cluster

[shekh]

I examined the Exodus_UHD_HDR_Exodus_draft.mp4 with ffprobe. Now I see "side_data_type=Mastering display metadata" attached to each frame, but the parameters are the same through entire demo. Boring example.

[kolak]

They will be the same as HDR10 uses static matadata for whole stream. It should be repeated every GOP for seeking needs.

HDR10+ uses dynamic metadata but I don't think that you can find any samples yet.
DolbyVision is also dynamic metadata, but it's proprietary, so even if you can extract it, you won't know what to do with it.

[shekh]

Originally Posted by kolak

They will be the same as HDR10 uses static matadata for whole stream. It should be repeated every GOP for seeking needs.

HDR10+ uses dynamic metadata but I don't think that you can find any samples yet.
DolbyVision is also dynamic metadata, but it's proprietary, so even if you can extract it, you won't know what to do with it.

Thanks. Following Revan654 question I was thinking what can be done with metadata capture. Because it can be a sequence of unrelated clips it must be possible to preserve variable metadata (per scene) despite its static nature. The fact that it is included per GOP helps this idea.