Best Blu-ray subtitle settings in tsMuxeR?

hbenthow · 26th October 2022, 22:59

For years, I've been using tsMuxeR to make simple Blu-rays without menus. I've been using the following settings for the subtitles:

Font: Arial
Font size: 65
Additional border: 5 pixels
Bottom offset: 155 (for letterboxed 2:35:1) or 110 (for 1:85 aspect ratio).

However, I've been wondering whether these settings are ideal. For example, is 110 pixels too high of a bottom offset for the 1:85 aspect ratio, is 65 an ideal font size (perhaps too big?), and is 5 pixels an ideal font border size? I'm very satisfied with a 155 pixel bottom offset for 2:35:1 movies, but I'm iffy about the rest of the settings. And I'm fairly satisfied with the Arial font, although it's possible that there are better ones.

What settings would you recommend?

Emulgator · 26th October 2022, 23:55

Some favourite and well-rendering Latin fonts: Verdana, Clear Sans.
More suggestions:
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=182397
Positions, sizes: You decide where it fits.

hbenthow · 27th October 2022, 00:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emulgator

Some favourite and well-rendering Latin fonts: Verdana, Clear Sans.
More suggestions:
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=182397
Positions, sizes: You decide where it fits.

What do you personally use for position and size settings?

Emulgator · 28th October 2022, 03:19

For a 2,35:1 movie

1-liners in black letterbox
2-liners split picture/black
3-liners upper 2 lines in picture, lower line in black letterbox

Verdana 48
bottom offset 48
color 240,230,0
additional border 5
line spacing 1,0
animation fast

Fits all other AR too (all lines inside picture).

maldon · 7th November 2022, 14:22

In my case I want the .srt subtitles I add to tsMuxeR to have the same settings as the ones included in the m2ts file of the movie. How can I find out the settings of the original .pgs?

When exporting the new .m2ts I want all the .pgs subtitles I get to be identical. I mean, same color, font, size, line spacing, additional border pixels, bottom off screen...

Emulgator · 10th November 2022, 13:49

Either you find matching fonts by comparison and remuxing tests.
Just trial and error, trial and error.
Or if you must have everything absolutely identical:
OCR all (SubtitleEdit with Tesseract) and render all new.

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hbenthow Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 45	Best Blu-ray subtitle settings in tsMuxeR? For years, I've been using tsMuxeR to make simple Blu-rays without menus. I've been using the following settings for the subtitles: Font: Arial Font size: 65 Additional border: 5 pixels Bottom offset: 155 (for letterboxed 2:35:1) or 110 (for 1:85 aspect ratio). However, I've been wondering whether these settings are ideal. For example, is 110 pixels too high of a bottom offset for the 1:85 aspect ratio, is 65 an ideal font size (perhaps too big?), and is 5 pixels an ideal font border size? I'm very satisfied with a 155 pixel bottom offset for 2:35:1 movies, but I'm iffy about the rest of the settings. And I'm fairly satisfied with the Arial font, although it's possible that there are better ones. What settings would you recommend?

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Emulgator Big Bit Savings Now ! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: close to the wall Posts: 2,040	Some favourite and well-rendering Latin fonts: Verdana, Clear Sans. More suggestions: https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=182397 Positions, sizes: You decide where it fits. __________________ "To bypass shortcuts and find suffering...is called QUALity" (Die toten Augen von Friedrichshain) "Data reduction ? Yep, Sir. We're that issue working on. Synce invntoin uf lingöage..."

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Emulgator Big Bit Savings Now ! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: close to the wall Posts: 2,040	For a 2,35:1 movie 1-liners in black letterbox 2-liners split picture/black 3-liners upper 2 lines in picture, lower line in black letterbox Verdana 48 bottom offset 48 color 240,230,0 additional border 5 line spacing 1,0 animation fast Fits all other AR too (all lines inside picture). __________________ "To bypass shortcuts and find suffering...is called QUALity" (Die toten Augen von Friedrichshain) "Data reduction ? Yep, Sir. We're that issue working on. Synce invntoin uf lingöage..." Last edited by Emulgator; 28th October 2022 at 03:28.

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Emulgator Big Bit Savings Now ! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: close to the wall Posts: 2,040	Either you find matching fonts by comparison and remuxing tests. Just trial and error, trial and error. Or if you must have everything absolutely identical: OCR all (SubtitleEdit with Tesseract) and render all new. __________________ "To bypass shortcuts and find suffering...is called QUALity" (Die toten Augen von Friedrichshain) "Data reduction ? Yep, Sir. We're that issue working on. Synce invntoin uf lingöage..."

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maldon Registered User Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 70	In my case I want the .srt subtitles I add to tsMuxeR to have the same settings as the ones included in the m2ts file of the movie. How can I find out the settings of the original .pgs? When exporting the new .m2ts I want all the .pgs subtitles I get to be identical. I mean, same color, font, size, line spacing, additional border pixels, bottom off screen...