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Old 30th November 2005, 15:56   #41  |  Link
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You can use my AutoYUY2() filter. It will make that decision automatically for you.
Thanks. That's fine in case of 2) and 3) above.
But when I pass YV12 to DivX via VDub ?
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Old 30th November 2005, 18:16   #42  |  Link
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The question makes no sense for number 1. If you pass the YV12 to DivX via VirtualDub and Fast Recompress, there is no conversion and thus nothing to choose.

Perhaps you can clarify your question?
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If you pass the YV12 to DivX via VirtualDub and Fast Recompress, there is no conversion and thus nothing to choose.

Perhaps you can clarify your question?
So, DV/MPEG2 chroma sampling option in the decoder settings is applicable when upsampling to YUY2/RGB only ?
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Old 5th December 2005, 15:08   #44  |  Link
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I haven't studied the code, but that's how it should work. I'd be surprised if it wasn't that way.
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Old 7th December 2005, 15:01   #45  |  Link
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Yeah, that makes sense. But this seems to suggest otherwise.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...779#post747779
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Is it possible to uninstall the cedocida codec? If so, how ?

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Old 7th March 2006, 08:35   #47  |  Link
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Is it possible to uninstall the cedocida codec?
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rundll32.exe setupapi.dll,InstallHinfSection DefaultUninstall 132 c:\windows\inf\cedocida.inf
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Old 7th March 2006, 12:30   #48  |  Link
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You can also disable Cedocida with VCSwap if you simply wish to avoid conflict with other installed DV codecs. Heres the link:

http://members.chello.nl/~p.bekke/
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Complete newbie here. For some reason I cannot get this DV codec to appear in the list of available video compressors in VirtualDub. I have all the standard ones in there, plus X264.

I need to get source material into DV format for importing into a Roland Edirol device for playback. I feel like I'm so close!! I take the source through an Avisynth script for the necessary manipulations -- I really only need VirtualDub to output the file. Or do I? Any advice would be great. Thanks.
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Old 26th May 2006, 10:38   #51  |  Link
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lq> How did you "install" the Cedocida DV codec?
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I try tyhis codec.
It is good, thanks.

But I have some comments:
I like to have YUY2 (not YV12) for decode toAvisynth. But when I use "force" option, and YUY2 switch,
I can not open any DV avi in VirtualdubMod (it accept RGB only).
So, in my opinion, we must have not radio buttons to decode option, but check boxes for enabled video formats (RGB, YUY2, YV12). In this case "force" option box can be omitted.
The same for encode options.
What anybody (and author) think about it?
I can try implement it myself, but I have some other programs to code
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More comments (I look to its source a little).

Cedocida DV decoder v0.1.6 always firstly produce raw YV12-DV frame.
If output format is YV12 DV, it directly output this frame.
If output format is not YV12-DV, Cedocida always convert this DV-frame to YUY2. (YUY2 is formed correctly, by averaging, and Reinterpolate420 is not needed).
If output format is YUY2, Cedocida output this YUY2.
If format is RGB, Cedocida converts this YUY2 frame
to RGB and output it. The last conversion is the same as Avisynth function ConverttoRGB().
If format is YV12, Cedocida convert this YUY2 frame to YV12 (interlaced or progressive)and output. The last conversion is the same as Avisynth function ConverttoYV12(interlaced=true or false).
So, output to YV12 produce exactly the same results as output to YUY2 with followed function ConverttoYV12(...).

It is possible to implement direct (one-step) conversion YV12-DV to YV12 normal (MPEG2), with appropriate pixel chroma interpolation . But I am not sure, that the difference will be visible.
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Does anyone know how to bring the configuration screen in one command line?
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configuration is stored in cedocida.ini file (windows folder). But in hex format.
You may try save and copy various versions of this file.
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Hi Fizick,

As you've probably noted, there's been some dialogue on this same issue in the 'DV Decoder Differences - Update' thread

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...039#post863039

Out of interest, if I configure Cedocida with forced output to YV12 (DV) and then apply ConvertToYV12(interlaced=true) what will be the YV12 subsample format of the output AVS stream i.e. is the YV12 (DV) subsample format retained or will ConverttoYV12 convert it to YV12 'normal' (MPEG2, interlaced) format? If the latter, then one assumes that conversion via a YUY2 intermediate is avoided, unless of course ConvertToYV12 does the same.

On that note, I wonder if anyone is aware of an AVS filter or ''analyzer'' that can reveal the YV12 sub-sample format of an AVS stream? 'Info' doesnt (afaik) provide this level of analysis.

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If Cedocida adopts simple linear interpolation, "DV 4:1:1/4:2:0 Interlaced" -> YUY2 -> "MPEG2 4:2:0 Interlaced" would be equivalent to direct "DV 4:1:1/4:2:0 Interlaced" -> "MPEG2 4:2:0 Interlaced", except for more rounding errors.
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Henry,

Thanks for your input but it does really answer the fundamental question:

If fed with YV12 (DV), what is the output from ConvertToYV12(interlaced=true). Is it:

a) YV12(DV) i.e. unchanged?
or
b) YV12 (MPEG2, interlaced) ?

If b), does ConvertYV12 make the conversion:

c) Directly, with no intermediate involved?
or
d) Via YUY2 or another intermediate that incurs an additional color space conversion step

Since I am not aware of a means of analyzing the YV12 sub-sample format of an AVS output stream, I cannot answer the question myself, hence my inquiry whether such an AVS filter or analyzer exists.

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@WorBry, I was indeed not answering your questions. I was actually responding to Fizick. Let's move to other threads for discussions not directly related to Cedocida.

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Well you can do so if you like, but since my query quite clearly does relate directly to Cedocida and was specifically put to Fizick in response to his post above, which itself refers to ConvertToYV12, I think it is appropriately placed in this thread. If he or someone else with credible insight chooses to respond, then I will have learned something of value. If not, then it is only I who have wasted my time. I must apologize if my post has interrupted your own highly charged exchange of original ideas,, but I dont see Moderator under your avitar. Thank-you.

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