BD3D2MK3D v1.33: Convert 3D BDs or MKV to 3D SBS, TAB or FS MKV - Support thread

[r0lZ]

Originally Posted by Moonbase

Guess I found the culprit

I see. V1.1 has been developed at my request, because it was impossible to use v1.0 without problem from within BD3D2MK3D. I have made some quick tests when beta2 has been released, and since it worked, I have used it in v24. I have already written an email to the author, but I have not yet received a reply. Sorry, but that will probably take some time. In the meantime, try v1.23, that should be OK now. Dl the working v1.23 here.

[Moonbase]

Thanks for your support! So let’s hope something evolves out of talking to the OFSExtractor programmer.

In the meantime, I’ll try 1.23 again, and will let you know the outcome. (I actually did miss the edit.)

EDIT: 11 hours later… I can report success using v1.23, converting both the KODI test file mentioned above and the full Gravity 3D BluRay (31.5 GB) with 6 audio and 15 subtitle tracks. Hooray!

[r0lZ]

Thanks for the confirmation.

I am still waiting for a reply by TheGreatMcPain, but in the worst case, I will release a new version with either MVCPlanes2OFS alone, or an option to select the extractor. In the meantime, keep using v1.23.

Thanks again for the bug report, and its discussion.

[von Suppé]

Hi r0lZ,

Reading these latest posts, possibly a similar/related case is mentioned here: https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/...al-instruction

Probably OP wasn't aware of the general BD3D2MK3D support thread there. I can imagine him needing some input from its author.

[r0lZ]

Thanks ! I have replied at VideoHelp.

[r0lZ]

I have received a reply from TheGreatMcPain. He suggests to check the beta-2 32-bit from the CIO as administrator, because he suspects a permission problem. Someone can do that test ?

[r0lZ]

OK, here is v1.27. MVCPlanes2OFS has been reintroduced, and the problem encountered by some users is certainly fixed. I will perhaps release another version with OFSExtractor again, when the problem will be identified and fixed...

v1.27 (September 13, 2022)
- Re-introduced MVCPlanes2OFS instead of OFSExtractor because it creahes under some Windows versions or implementations.
- Added Help -> Download free 3D ISO for testing, to open the Kodi Wiki page where you can download up to 13 3D samples ready to encode.
- Removed Help -> Check for Update, because the current http package doesn't support https, now required by VideoHelp.

Download the latest version here.

[Sixsupersonic]

Hi Moonbase,

I was unable to reproduce the issue on my WIndows 10 VM (QEMU), but I'll try to setup a Windows 11 VM on VirtualBox at somepoint.
Since my desktop is running AMD Ryzen I suspect there might be a CPU issue, so I'll also test on my laptop which is an Intel Ivybridge i3.

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EDIT: I was able to reproduce the issue with both of the above 1.1-beta2-1-g1d345fb binaries on my laptop, so this is most likely a compiler issue. (which is really strange since GCC shouldn't be doing any CPU specific optimizations unless it's told to.)

EDIT2: I'll try my best to explain what happened, but it turns out the Mingw64 toolchain I use to create WIndows binaries on my Gentoo Linux machine was compiled with AMD Ryzen specific optimizations (via the '-march=native' compiler flag). So, even if GCC wasn't doing any CPU optimizations, the Mingw64 runtime, which was compiled with CPU specific optimizations, made the binaries incompatible with some Intel systems.

I'll upload some fixed binaries to my Gitlab shortly.

EDIT3: The fixed binaries are now up.

[r0lZ]

Originally Posted by Sixsupersonic

EDIT3: The fixed binaries are now up.

Great. Thanks.
And a new release of BD3D2MK3D should be issued shortly, but I prefer to wait a few moments to have confirmation that it works...

[Moonbase]

@r0lZ: Thanks for the new version, I’ll test shortly!

EDIT: Tested v1.27 with above-mentioned setup (Win11 VM on Linux Mint 21, i7 CPU), using both the same Gravity 3D ISO and the MakeMKV-generated 3d.mvc.mkv file. Worked without a glitch.

@Sixsupersonic: Thanks for investigating and nailing down the problem. I’m currently a little short of time, but I gave OFSExtractor 1.1-beta2 a quick spin on the above-said Win11 VM (using another movie, though). Seems to run fine now, and rather fast:

>C:\Users\Anyone\Downloads\OFSExtractor32.exe 00800.track_4114.mvc "test-ofs"
OFSExtractor 1.1-beta2 32bit by TheGreatMcPain (aka Sixsupersonic on doom9)
Last git commit was on .

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Checking 3D-Planes for valid depth values.

3D-Plane #00
NumFrames: 232608
Minimum depth: -1
Maximum depth: 26
Average depth: 5.71
Number of changes of depth value: 1062
First frame with a defined depth: 953
Last frame with a defined depth: 232607
Number of frames with undefined depth: 953
Identical Planes: None

3D-Plane #01
NumFrames: 232608
Minimum depth: -1
Maximum depth: 26
Average depth: 6.00
Number of changes of depth value: 1007
First frame with a defined depth: 0
Last frame with a defined depth: 232607
Number of frames with undefined depth: 0
Identical Planes: None

3D-Plane #02
NumFrames: 232608
Minimum depth: -1
Maximum depth: 26
Average depth: 5.69
Number of changes of depth value: 1045
First frame with a defined depth: 0
Last frame with a defined depth: 232607
Number of frames with undefined depth: 0
Identical Planes: None

3D-Plane #03
NumFrames: 232608
Minimum depth: -1
Maximum depth: 27
Average depth: 5.74
Number of changes of depth value: 1060
First frame with a defined depth: 953
Last frame with a defined depth: 232607
Number of frames with undefined depth: 953
Identical Planes: None

3D-Plane #04
NumFrames: 232608
Minimum depth: -1
Maximum depth: 26
Average depth: 5.72
Number of changes of depth value: 1058
First frame with a defined depth: 0
Last frame with a defined depth: 232607
Number of frames with undefined depth: 34
Identical Planes: None

3D-Plane #05
NumFrames: 232608
Minimum depth: -1
Maximum depth: 26
Average depth: 5.71
Number of changes of depth value: 1061
First frame with a defined depth: 0
Last frame with a defined depth: 232607
Number of frames with undefined depth: 0
Identical Planes: None

3D-Plane #06
NumFrames: 232608
Minimum depth: -1
Maximum depth: 26
Average depth: 5.70
Number of changes of depth value: 1056
First frame with a defined depth: 0
Last frame with a defined depth: 232607
Number of frames with undefined depth: 0
Identical Planes: None

3D-Plane #07
NumFrames: 232608
Minimum depth: -1
Maximum depth: 26
Average depth: 5.72
Number of changes of depth value: 1061
First frame with a defined depth: 953
Last frame with a defined depth: 232607
Number of frames with undefined depth: 953
Identical Planes: None

3D-Plane #08
NumFrames: 232608
Minimum depth: 3
Maximum depth: 3
Average depth: 3.00
Number of changes of depth value: 1
First frame with a defined depth: 0
Last frame with a defined depth: 232607
Number of frames with undefined depth: 0
Identical Planes: None
*** Warning This 3D-Plane has a fixed depth of 3! ***

Number of 3D-Planes in MVC stream: 9
Number of 3D-Planes written: 9
Number of frames: 232608
Framerate: 23.976


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Same for OFSExtractor64.exe 1.1-beta2. Good work!

Side note: Both don’t show the last Git commit: "Last git commit was on ."

[r0lZ]

Thanks for the confirmation, Moonbase. I will release a new version of BD3D2MK3D with the fixed OFSExtractor when I will have a few moments...

[sfatula]

Originally Posted by r0lZ

Unfortunately, BD3D2MK3D relies on many M$-only utilities, so that's impossible. Perhaps you could try to run it under Wine HQ? Honestly, I don't know if it works.

I run bd3d2mk3d just fine under wine (or wine64) on ubuntu. So, it does still run. FYI

[r0lZ]

Thanks for the good info, sfatula !

[Moonbase]

Good info indeed @sfatula, thanks!

Would there be a "to-do list" somewhere? I.e., what version of Wine to use (repo or installed from WineHQ), if it runs on Ubuntu 22.04/Linux Mint 21, what else to install (.NET something?)?

Reason being, I haven’t used Wine for years and try to keep my Linuxes as unbloated as possible, but this sounds like a useful usage of Wine. And it’d keep me from wasting almost 200 GB on a Windows 11 VM …

Btw, does anyone here know or use the sView player on Linux? I couldn’t make the suggested PotPlayer to work, not even in the Windows VM. But I’m rather happy with sView – a good means to quick-check stereo videos, say, on the laptop. Even plays MakeMKV-ripped BluRay MVC files.

[r0lZ]

Of course, you need to install AviSynth.
.NET and Java should be necessary/recommended only if you want to convert some subtitle streams to 3D.
Although not absolutely necessary, it may be also good to install a player that can play the MPLS and M2TS files from the command line. The preview is useful to locate easily what you want to convert in a BD with a lot of short 3D clips. sView may be a good solution.
The rest should run without additional requirements, but as I wrote above, I have never tried to run BD3D2MK3D under Linux/Wine, so I can't be sure.

[r0lZ]

OK, finally, here is v1.28. Now, OFSExtractor (fixed) and MVCPlanes2OFS are available. Since OFSExtractor should now run without problem under all versions of Windows (and probably Linux/Wine), it is now the default, but if you experience some problems, you can easily revert to MVCPlanes2OFS with the menu Settings -> Extract 3D-Planes (OFS Files) from MVC with...
So, I should not need to release another version just for an additional incompatibility ! ;-)

I have also updated the 3rd-party exes.

v1.28 (September 25, 2022)
- Re-introduced OFSExtractor (fixed version v1.1-beta2) together with MVCPlanes2OFS. OFSExtractor is the default, but this can be changed in the Settings menu.
- Updated x264 to the latest version (v0.164.3098)
- Updated x265 to the latest version (v3.5+39)
- Updated the mkvtoolnix tools to the latest version (v70.0.0 'Caught A Lite Sneeze')

As usual, you can download the latest version here.

[Moonbase]

Just FYI: Converted a few more BR rips (MakeMKV MVC files) in my Win11 VM (described above), using both v1.27 and v1.28. Both versions work fine for my use case (FireTV 4k stick on Samsung 3D TV, using KODI 19.4). I usually convert to HTAB, crf=18, preset=slow, tune=film, BD compat, 8 bit, 3D subs only, taking all audio, subtitle and chapter streams.

One thing I wonder about, though: I tend to remux the original MakeMKV rip using MKVToolNix (keeping the "3d-plane" tags, if any), describe the audio & subtitles with a name, and set the "forced" and "commentary" flags on the appropriate tracks.

Now BD3D2MK3D sometimes detects the "forced" subs correctly and marks them correctly in the stream selection, sometimes it does not. How come?

[Moonbase]

Looks like I need your help again: Just tried to rip my "Cargo 3D" (2009) Blu-Ray with subtitles, and MakeMKV doesn’t show (or save) any 3D-Plane info.

How can I easily determine on which plane they should go? And possibly store that info in my original MKV file for later conversions?

It would be helpful if this could be done without Windows tools (I’m on Linux), except maybe those you deliver with your software.

Taking a quick peek using sView, they don’t even look much like 3D, but they display okay, and I’d very much like to have them converted to HTAB, like the movie…

Screenshots in attachments.

[von Suppé]

Maybe a flawly authored disc. Try importing the 3D disc into BD3D2MK3D. Maybe it will be able to show the proper 3D-Planes. But I think that no 3D-planes are assigned to the subtitles in this case. I've seen it on poorly authored blurays.
In which case you can extract the 3D-planes from the mvc stream and see which is the most compatible with BD3D2MK3D's "Verify 3D-planes compatibility" tool. No guarantees though, there's a lot of bad 3D discs out there.

[Moonbase]

Originally Posted by von Suppé

In which case you can extract the 3D-planes from the mvc stream and see which is the most compatible with BD3D2MK3D's "Verify 3D-planes compatibility" tool.

How would I do that? Process the file using "plane 0" until just before it starts encoding? And then do what? (Sorry for the noob question, I don’t know too much about all this video black magic… What a hassle just to convert one’s own, paid-for, Blu-Ray main titles into a KODI-playable 3D-format. Sigh.)