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Old 18th July 2016, 21:14   #38821  |  Link
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Hmmm, I thought I had tested that and noticed a difference and stuck with the relaxed setting... either way, it's soft or relaxed or NO AR... I'll stick with AR on.
I hear you, it all get pretty confusing at times.....anyway if SR AB is gone for good, I'll try my luck adding AB at the downscaling stage on top of SSIM 2D 100%. I forgot it's even there as I can't read it at all(using big fonts on W7).
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Old 18th July 2016, 21:30   #38822  |  Link
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Addition to my report from above:

SSIM downscaling in v0.90.23 does work for a full downscale (i.e. 1920x1080 ==> 1024x768)... last night I had forgot to check that scenario. So again it seems that mixed scaling is to blame

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Old 19th July 2016, 16:44   #38823  |  Link
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Hi madshi, are you still using AMD card? If yes what driver version are you using?
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Old 19th July 2016, 21:35   #38824  |  Link
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Thanks I didn't have D3D11 checked now It seams to work perfect now. Yes I always do clean installation of drivers.

Any settings suggestion you would shear I'm very new to this and there is over 1000 pages

I should add that I'm on 1440p 144hz mostly playing mp4 1080p
Try the guide in my signature.
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Old 19th July 2016, 21:58   #38825  |  Link
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I've been using madVR with no Dithering at all for the past two months. It's better this way with anime.

When dithering is active, the background moves around a lot and is distracting, it gives a sense of flickering / a sense that there is something wrong with the screen.

At any rate, the dithering algorithms are great by themselves, it's just not that great with anime.

In other order of thoughts, seems the newest version of madVR works great for me!
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Old 19th July 2016, 22:02   #38826  |  Link
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I ordered a GTX1060 today. Will add it to my comparison end of this week...
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Old 19th July 2016, 23:20   #38827  |  Link
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Georgel, what setting do you use for 720p anime? Sunset1982 i will be waiting!
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Old 19th July 2016, 23:45   #38828  |  Link
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I've been using madVR with no Dithering at all for the past two months. It's better this way with anime.

When dithering is active, the background moves around a lot and is distracting, it gives a sense of flickering / a sense that there is something wrong with the screen.

At any rate, the dithering algorithms are great by themselves, it's just not that great with anime.

In other order of thoughts, seems the newest version of madVR works great for me!
You do not need to turn off dithering! To keep the background still simply turn off "change dither for every frame".

Dithering is very important for anime! Doesn't the banding bother you without it?
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Old 19th July 2016, 23:50   #38829  |  Link
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Asmodian, can i also ask you which settings you prefer for anime?
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Old 20th July 2016, 01:00   #38830  |  Link
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Asmodian, can i also ask you which settings you prefer for anime?
For 720p24 to 2560x1440@144Hz I am currently using:
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Chroma Upscaling: Reconstruction SharpAR + SR1
Luma Doubling: NNEDI3 256
Chroma Doubling: NNEDI3 32
Image Upscaling (not used): JincAR
Thin Edges: 0.6
Smooth Motion: On
Dithering: ED1, colored noise OFF, change dither OFF
Ordered dithering is also good. I have all artifact removal options disabled for this one, I will turn them on if the source needs it. I also play with the upscaling refinement options for different sources, I have never found a good set of 'default' settings for the refinement options. No trade quality for performance options checked.
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Asmodian, what card allows you to use so much neurons?
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Old 20th July 2016, 02:02   #38832  |  Link
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I ordered a GTX1060 today. Will add it to my comparison end of this week...
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Old 20th July 2016, 02:22   #38833  |  Link
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Asmodian, what card allows you to use so much neurons?
He has a 980 Ti.
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Old 20th July 2016, 11:09   #38834  |  Link
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I have 2 problems with 3D playback using LAV + madvr.
Config i7-2600k + gtx980 + win 8.1, latest nightly builds of MPC-HC and LAV.
1. nvidia refresh rate problem - 23.971 instead of 23.976. in 2D mode i fixed it with 24Hz monitor refresh rate (24p instead of 23p in madvr settings) + reclock
in 3D i cant set 24Hz in madvr - 23p mode switches on automaticaly.... how can i set 24p in 3D?
2. artefacts in 3D mode in some scenes (every time in same moment). red car on screenshot is example of it. in powerdvd 16 all is ok, so its not BD3D problem. I think its decoder's problem, but not sure. how to fix this bug?
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Old 20th July 2016, 12:15   #38835  |  Link
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I ordered a GTX1060 today. Will add it to my comparison end of this week...
Thanks!
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Thanks!
I'd like to know if the GTX 1060 is capable of 1080p -> 2160p with these settings:

Chroma: super-xbr100 + AR
Luma Doubling: NNEDI3 32 neurons
Image: Jinc + AR
Artifact Removal - Debanding On
Upscaling Refinement: SuperRes (3)
Dithering: Error Diffusion 2

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Old 21st July 2016, 01:33   #38837  |  Link
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Most certainly it is impossible unless you remove Error Diffusion from that list (and probably even without it).

Edit: Ok, with <= 30fps it might work.
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Old 21st July 2016, 01:47   #38838  |  Link
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i don't think error diffusion is a good idea at UHD
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Old 21st July 2016, 11:08   #38839  |  Link
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i don't think error diffusion is a good idea at UHD
Care to explain? Is there a major drawback except performance hit?

Is there a major difference with error diffusion from 1080->2160p?
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Old 21st July 2016, 11:33   #38840  |  Link
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I'd like to know if the GTX 1060 is capable of 1080p -> 2160p with these settings:

Chroma: super-xbr100 + AR
Luma Doubling: NNEDI3 32 neurons
Image: Jinc + AR
Artifact Removal - Debanding On
Upscaling Refinement: SuperRes (3)
Dithering: Error Diffusion 2
ok, I will test it. Card will arrive today



Edit:

Tested for you. File was 1920x1080 (with black bars), 23,976, 8 Bit AVC, D3D11 FSE, 10Bit mode:

27,04 ms / 140 w (with automatically detect hard coded black bars feature & crop black bars)
33,45 ms / 170 w (without detecting hard coded black bars)


tested with 1920x1080 (Avatar Mkv, real 16.9 fullscreen without black bars), 23,976, 8 Bit AVC:

34,1 ms / 172 w
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