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[MrVideo]

Originally Posted by Lathe

I'm trying to convert an HEVC MKV file into an x264 archive file (AVC/AC3)

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That said, I'm confused as to why you would want to convert a smaller video file into a larger video file. Is the wrapper for the new file going to be MKV? If not, what?

If it is going to be a MKV file, then don't use BDRB, instead use the standalone encoder. That is assuming you have a compatible nVidia or Intel GPU. The whole process will then be quick and easy.

[Lathe]

Originally Posted by gonca

@Lathe
Try using LAV as frame server and disable your "tweaks" temporarily.

Will do, thanks!

I went ahead and used CleverFFMpeg which works great, but you don't have as much control over the parameters.

[Lathe]

Originally Posted by MrVideo

Please code wrap included text.

That said, I'm confused as to why you would want to convert a smaller video file into a larger video file. Is the wrapper for the new file going to be MKV? If not, what?

If it is going to be a MKV file, then don't use BDRB, instead use the standalone encoder. That is assuming you have a compatible nVidia or Intel GPU. The whole process will then be quick and easy.

Yeah, sorry about that, I don't know how to 'code wrap', I know that's a nuisance, my apologies...

No, I don't want to create a larger file, but my OPPO will not play HEVC files, so since I archive everything to playable disc I need to convert to x264 with the correct parameters.

It's so funny how I can never tell how big a file is going to come out (unless I do a sample and extrapolate on that of course) But, sometimes I can take a full on UHD file at like 50+ Gigs and use a fairly high CRF value (high as in low) and I'll be surprised at how small the resulting playable Blu-ray is. Then, I can take a small file like this and use basically the same CRF, and the file goes from around 3 Gigs to like 15! But, at least I can do it, I just wish I could figure out why BDRB is not doing it.

[MrVideo]

Originally Posted by Lathe

Yeah, sorry about that, I don't know how to 'code wrap', I know that's a nuisance, my apologies...

It is easy.

Here is an example.

Do a Reply w/ Quote to this posting and you will see how it is done.

No, I don't want to create a larger file, but my OPPO will not play HEVC files, so since I archive everything to playable disc I need to convert to x264 with the correct parameters.

I'm going to assume that you are creating BD-ROM discs containing MKV files. If not, you should be, as the Oppo will play those.

Use the standalone program that comes with the BDRB release to recode the H265 videos to H264. Of coursse the use of this program requires a compatible nVidia or Intel GPU. If so, you can select H.264 and the quality or bitrate. It is a one-stop shop for re-encoding videos.

If you don't have a compatible GPU, then I'm afraid that I can't be of help, as I do not use BDRB for any kind of archiving, other than building UHD discs w/ menus.

[Lathe]

Originally Posted by MrVideo

It is easy.

Here is an example.

Do a Reply w/ Quote to this posting and you will see how it is done.

I'm going to assume that you are creating BD-ROM discs containing MKV files. If not, you should be, as the Oppo will play those.

Use the standalone program that comes with the BDRB release to recode the H265 videos to H264. Of coursse the use of this program requires a compatible nVidia or Intel GPU. If so, you can select H.264 and the quality or bitrate. It is a one-stop shop for re-encoding videos.

If you don't have a compatible GPU, then I'm afraid that I can't be of help, as I do not use BDRB for any kind of archiving, other than building UHD discs w/ menus.

Thank you!

[Blurayhd]

Hello, I dont know what to do, I try encoding a movie and with procesor take almost 8 hours and with my nvidia take no more than 17 minutes, I ask because the final quality?

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Blurayhd

Hello, I dont know what to do, I try encoding a movie and with procesor take almost 8 hours and with my nvidia take no more than 17 minutes, I ask because the final quality?

My experience has been that they are of equivalent quality at a given bitrate. I can't say for sure if that holds true when you are forced to use low bitrates, as I haven't tested that. But definitely when using constant quality encodes you see similar quality at similar output sizes.

[Blurayhd]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

My experience has been that they are of equivalent quality at a given bitrate. I can't say for sure if that holds true when you are forced to use low bitrates, as I haven't tested that. But definitely when using constant quality encodes you see similar quality at similar output sizes.

And another thing is the size, I dont know what but with procesor the final size is few gb less than Nvidia

[MrVideo]

Originally Posted by Blurayhd

And another thing is the size, I dont know what but with procesor the final size is few gb less than Nvidia

If you have the software encode set for two-pass, that will help reduce the size.

[Lathe]

Originally Posted by MrVideo

that will help reduce the size.

WHAT?!! Reduce the size...??!

I've always heard that size matters...

[gonca]

Originally Posted by Lathe

WHAT?!! Reduce the size...??!

I've always heard that size matters...

Well said, PEEWEE.

[Blurayhd]

Originally Posted by MrVideo

If you have the software encode set for two-pass, that will help reduce the size.

Two pass but which biltrate to use? which one will I put?

[gonca]

Originally Posted by Blurayhd

Two pass but which biltrate to use? which one will I put?

Maybe use file size?

[coopervid]

Originally Posted by cartman0208

From my experience rewritable discs do not play well on BD Players.
Did you try a one-time writable disc for comparison?

Generally most standalone player will only recognize BD-R 50. Some 66GB (2 layers) on BD-R XL but not 100GB. Only one player is known to read 100GB from BD-Rs or be it BD-RE.

[Intel Iris the Great]

Hello everyone,

First time poster here, so I hope it’s okay to ask this right here.

I’m testing the newly available Decoding/Frame serving: QSVENCC option in BD Rebuilder v0.62.06 with my Intel Iris Plus Graphics GPU on my Intel Core i7 – 1065G7 system. It works really well and super-fast at reencoding MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080 HD video source, but fails when encountering VC-1, 1920x1080 HD video source. It also fails when encountering MPEG-4 (AVC), 720x480 SD video source within the BD structure. Needless to say, the reencoding works fine for all SD or HD video sources when using Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow.

I’m thinking there’s probably a setting(s) that needs to be changed so that Intel QuickSync can work properly on my system when using BD Rebuilder. Also, everything looks fine here:

[08/02/24] Checking System Settings
- BD-Rebuilder v0.62.06
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Working Path Free Space: 857.07GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.6.0.6, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 4504, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- X265: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[08/02/24] Systems Settings Check complete

Hoping someone can help. Thanks in advance.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Intel Iris the Great

Hello everyone,

First time poster here, so I hope it’s okay to ask this right here.

I’m testing the newly available Decoding/Frame serving: QSVENCC option in BD Rebuilder v0.62.06 with my Intel Iris Plus Graphics GPU on my Intel Core i7 – 1065G7 system. It works really well and super-fast at reencoding MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080 HD video source, but fails when encountering VC-1, 1920x1080 HD video source. It also fails when encountering MPEG-4 (AVC), 720x480 SD video source within the BD structure. Needless to say, the reencoding works fine for all SD or HD video sources when using Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow.

I’m thinking there’s probably a setting(s) that needs to be changed so that Intel QuickSync can work properly on my system when using BD Rebuilder. Also, everything looks fine here:

[08/02/24] Checking System Settings
- BD-Rebuilder v0.62.06
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Working Path Free Space: 857.07GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.6.0.6, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 4504, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- X265: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[08/02/24] Systems Settings Check complete

Hoping someone can help. Thanks in advance.

Hmm... Haven't tested that. I'll take a look at it.

[Blurayhd]

Hello, I so wish to know in Alternate movie what CRF number do you recomend to use? for amazing quality? what you use? thank you in advance

[Lathe]

Originally Posted by Blurayhd

Hello, I so wish to know in Alternate movie what CRF number do you recomend to use? for amazing quality? what you use? thank you in advance

Well, it's really personal choice, but for me if I am backing up say a normal Blu-ray (HD) if you have plenty of room and your main objective is not in shrinking it as small as it can go (like gonca does, for example...) then if you can get away with '16' that is pretty much transparent. If that is producing a file size too big for what you want (you can always run the encode and about 10% the way through check the 'Properties' of the resulting file in the 'Workfiles' to project roughly the final size) then '18' should be perfectly fine.

But, if you need smaller file sizes then many use 20-22 or so. Personally, I wouldn't go higher than that.

I hope that helps!

[Blurayhd]

Originally Posted by Lathe

Well, it's really personal choice, but for me if I am backing up say a normal Blu-ray (HD) if you have plenty of room and your main objective is not in shrinking it as small as it can go (like gonca does, for example...) then if you can get away with '16' that is pretty much transparent. If that is producing a file size too big for what you want (you can always run the encode and about 10% the way through check the 'Properties' of the resulting file in the 'Workfiles' to project roughly the final size) then '18' should be perfectly fine.

But, if you need smaller file sizes then many use 20-22 or so. Personally, I wouldn't go higher than that.

I hope that helps!

Thank You, always in Veryslow right?

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Blurayhd

Hello, I so wish to know in Alternate movie what CRF number do you recomend to use? for amazing quality? what you use? thank you in advance

It changes depending upon which encoder you are using (x264, x265, NVIDIA, INTEL). The same number delivers different quality for each.