ffdshow tryouts project: Discussion & Development - Page 486

whurlston · 3rd December 2009, 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamuriHL

Yea, thanks a lot!

I have the same problems now thanks to you!

Um... Merry Christmas???

SamuriHL · 3rd December 2009, 17:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by whurlston

Um... Merry Christmas???

Gee, uhhhh, thanks.

So, Default DS plays it back in sync for me. Waveout never makes a connection at all. Any of the ATI ones are either out of sync or crash MPC-HC. I'm of the opinion....fix DS for TrueHD and call it good.

SamuriHL · 3rd December 2009, 17:14

So, I thought I'd share my new laziness story with you.

I've discovered that I can bitstream while on a remote desktop session to my HTPC without having to have the tv on. So I can control it all from my laptop. As long as the receiver is set to the HDMI port of my HTPC, it'll bitstream(or not as the case may end up being). In short....NICE

albain · 3rd December 2009, 17:31

Man, so many posts, so much information ...

Here is a new build

Changes :

For xonar : DTS HD structure changed. I hope that it will work (with arcsoft renderer or other). From the logs I got from liquidskin only mkvs seem not to strip off DTS HD block. I still believe that something is wrong on your MPC or m2ts filter.
ATI 5xxx TrueHD : added a new structure to try in the list (changed channels mask). Which is weird is that on some samples directsound won't work unlike waveout. So I changed the only field that is different between working and non working samples

SamuriHL · 3rd December 2009, 17:39

Default DS still doesn't work for TrueHD. Getting decoded LPCM instead. Will post logs in a bit.

Waveout still won't lock for DTS-HD MA, either. It just sits there trying to identify the stream.

whurlston · 3rd December 2009, 17:46

Beta 45: TrueHD 6 ch decoded to PCM using DirectSound.

http://www.oshinetworks.com/DirectSh...5TrueHD6ch.txt

Are you ready for a vacation yet albain? You deserve one.

albain · 3rd December 2009, 18:04

Sorry, beta45 is incomplete for the ati & thd

whurlston · 3rd December 2009, 18:25

No problem. Just reporting.

blackEyEz · 3rd December 2009, 18:55

Awesome work guys, i been following this thread for some months on HD bitstreaming. I am not as technical could someone recap what has been achieved and what hardware you need to bitstream truehd and dts-ma? And could someone say if (and when) i can bitstream truehd/dts-ma within MediaPortal?

Thank you

albain · 3rd December 2009, 19:14

Here is an updated build for both xonar and ATI 5xxx

SamuriHL · 3rd December 2009, 19:20

Oh thank God man! You fixed Default DirectSound!

Now we got the best of all worlds because that was in sync for DTS-HD MA and now it works for TrueHD, as well. HURRAY! I'm gonna uninstall the MPC audio renderer now and just use DS for all my testing. Thank you!!!!

SamuriHL · 3rd December 2009, 19:21

@whurlston

Use Default DirectSound on Watchmen. I bet it works fine. And kick some TrueHD tracks through it that would only play as LPCM before. Those should now play correctly as TrueHD. WOO HOO!

albain · 3rd December 2009, 19:38

great !

Now what about regular formats : AC3/DTS & analogs streams encoded to AC3 in output section, are they still okay ?

This works fine on my side but I would like to be sure

Two others thing to test :
1/ Audio & video synchronisation : is it okay on HD formats ?
2/ when you do some jump to another part of the video, do you still have audio & video in sync (especially for TrueHD) ?

The last beta I have made is taken from the last revision of the bitstreamHD branch that I merged from the trunk so this one is a good build for non regressions testing.

I wait for these last feedbacks (and for the xonar too) and for clsid's go to perform the merge to the trunk

SamuriHL · 3rd December 2009, 20:11

Audio sync is good now from what I can see. Even moving around in the video is good. I just tested an AC3 file, that seems fine. I haven't tested a DTS file yet. Don't have one handy.

whurlston · 3rd December 2009, 20:57

Audio still loses sync for me. Happening on all sources actually if I let them play longer than 5 minutes. Audio is playing faster than the video. I think that is a separate issue though and not related to ffdshow. Possibly the renderer, maybe this is the reason for the glitches in WinDVD?

As for bitstreaming, both DTS-HD and TrueHD work great with the DSound renderer. Even 96/24 5.1 TrueHD.

@albain:

albain · 3rd December 2009, 21:05

Can what whurlston says be confirmed ?

Do you all have lost of sync on THD, DTSHD ?

With all the renderers ? directsound, waveout, MPC wasapi ?

Why do you say that this is not related to ffdshow ? Is powerdvd having glitches or lost of sync too ? Means that this is a bug in the ATI driver but I doubt it

whurlston · 3rd December 2009, 21:19

Definitely not an ffdshow issue!!! I forgot to set the clock on the audio renderer. I'll blame it on lack of sleep. DTS-HD and TrueHD 48/16 as well as TrueHD 96/24 (everything I tested) all in sync now. I'll try to find a DTS file to test.

SamuriHL · 3rd December 2009, 21:21

Watchmen is still sync screwed. I'm watching a TrueHD movie right now and it's fine so far. I think watchmen is just not a happy freaking movie to be playing in MPC-HC in general. I mean, I watched an entire DTS-HD MA movie last night with this and had ZERO sync problems.

SamuriHL · 3rd December 2009, 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by whurlston

Definitely not an ffdshow issue!!! I forgot to set the clock on the audio renderer. I'll blame it on lack of sleep. DTS-HD and TrueHD 48/16 as well as TrueHD 96/24 (everything I tested) all in sync now. I'll try to find a DTS file to test.

Play watchmen. I can't get it to stay in sync.

whurlston · 3rd December 2009, 21:24

That was one of the ones I tested and it works up to 5 minutes (which was out of sync without the clock set). I'll let it play longer and report back.

3rd December 2009, 17:14	#9703 \| Link
SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	So, I thought I'd share my new laziness story with you. I've discovered that I can bitstream while on a remote desktop session to my HTPC without having to have the tv on. So I can control it all from my laptop. As long as the receiver is set to the HDMI port of my HTPC, it'll bitstream(or not as the case may end up being). In short....NICE __________________ HTPC: Windows 11, AMD 5900X, RTX 3080, Pioneer Elite VSX-LX303, LG G2 77" OLED

3rd December 2009, 17:31	#9704 \| Link
albain Media Control author Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Paris Posts: 1,014	Man, so many posts, so much information ... Here is a new build Changes : For xonar : DTS HD structure changed. I hope that it will work (with arcsoft renderer or other). From the logs I got from liquidskin only mkvs seem not to strip off DTS HD block. I still believe that something is wrong on your MPC or m2ts filter. ATI 5xxx TrueHD : added a new structure to try in the list (changed channels mask). Which is weird is that on some samples directsound won't work unlike waveout. So I changed the only field that is different between working and non working samples

3rd December 2009, 17:39	#9705 \| Link
SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	Default DS still doesn't work for TrueHD. Getting decoded LPCM instead. Will post logs in a bit. Waveout still won't lock for DTS-HD MA, either. It just sits there trying to identify the stream. __________________ HTPC: Windows 11, AMD 5900X, RTX 3080, Pioneer Elite VSX-LX303, LG G2 77" OLED Last edited by SamuriHL; 3rd December 2009 at 17:41.

3rd December 2009, 19:20	#9711 \| Link
SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	Oh thank God man! You fixed Default DirectSound! Now we got the best of all worlds because that was in sync for DTS-HD MA and now it works for TrueHD, as well. HURRAY! I'm gonna uninstall the MPC audio renderer now and just use DS for all my testing. Thank you!!!! __________________ HTPC: Windows 11, AMD 5900X, RTX 3080, Pioneer Elite VSX-LX303, LG G2 77" OLED

3rd December 2009, 19:21	#9712 \| Link
SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	@whurlston Use Default DirectSound on Watchmen. I bet it works fine. And kick some TrueHD tracks through it that would only play as LPCM before. Those should now play correctly as TrueHD. WOO HOO! __________________ HTPC: Windows 11, AMD 5900X, RTX 3080, Pioneer Elite VSX-LX303, LG G2 77" OLED

3rd December 2009, 17:46	#9706 \| Link
whurlston Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 207	Beta 45: TrueHD 6 ch decoded to PCM using DirectSound. http://www.oshinetworks.com/DirectSh...5TrueHD6ch.txt Are you ready for a vacation yet albain? You deserve one.

3rd December 2009, 18:04	#9707 \| Link
albain Media Control author Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Paris Posts: 1,014	Sorry, beta45 is incomplete for the ati & thd

3rd December 2009, 18:25	#9708 \| Link
whurlston Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 207	No problem. Just reporting.

3rd December 2009, 18:55	#9709 \| Link
blackEyEz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 15	Awesome work guys, i been following this thread for some months on HD bitstreaming. I am not as technical could someone recap what has been achieved and what hardware you need to bitstream truehd and dts-ma? And could someone say if (and when) i can bitstream truehd/dts-ma within MediaPortal? Thank you

3rd December 2009, 19:14	#9710 \| Link
albain Media Control author Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Paris Posts: 1,014	Here is an updated build for both xonar and ATI 5xxx

3rd December 2009, 19:38	#9713 \| Link
albain Media Control author Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Paris Posts: 1,014	great ! Now what about regular formats : AC3/DTS & analogs streams encoded to AC3 in output section, are they still okay ? This works fine on my side but I would like to be sure Two others thing to test : 1/ Audio & video synchronisation : is it okay on HD formats ? 2/ when you do some jump to another part of the video, do you still have audio & video in sync (especially for TrueHD) ? The last beta I have made is taken from the last revision of the bitstreamHD branch that I merged from the trunk so this one is a good build for non regressions testing. I wait for these last feedbacks (and for the xonar too) and for clsid's go to perform the merge to the trunk

3rd December 2009, 20:11	#9714 \| Link
SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	Audio sync is good now from what I can see. Even moving around in the video is good. I just tested an AC3 file, that seems fine. I haven't tested a DTS file yet. Don't have one handy. __________________ HTPC: Windows 11, AMD 5900X, RTX 3080, Pioneer Elite VSX-LX303, LG G2 77" OLED

3rd December 2009, 20:57	#9715 \| Link
whurlston Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 207	Audio still loses sync for me. Happening on all sources actually if I let them play longer than 5 minutes. Audio is playing faster than the video. I think that is a separate issue though and not related to ffdshow. Possibly the renderer, maybe this is the reason for the glitches in WinDVD? As for bitstreaming, both DTS-HD and TrueHD work great with the DSound renderer. Even 96/24 5.1 TrueHD. @albain:

3rd December 2009, 21:05	#9716 \| Link
albain Media Control author Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Paris Posts: 1,014	Can what whurlston says be confirmed ? Do you all have lost of sync on THD, DTSHD ? With all the renderers ? directsound, waveout, MPC wasapi ? Why do you say that this is not related to ffdshow ? Is powerdvd having glitches or lost of sync too ? Means that this is a bug in the ATI driver but I doubt it

3rd December 2009, 21:19	#9717 \| Link
whurlston Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 207	Definitely not an ffdshow issue!!! I forgot to set the clock on the audio renderer. I'll blame it on lack of sleep. DTS-HD and TrueHD 48/16 as well as TrueHD 96/24 (everything I tested) all in sync now. I'll try to find a DTS file to test. Last edited by whurlston; 3rd December 2009 at 21:21.

3rd December 2009, 21:21	#9718 \| Link
SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	Watchmen is still sync screwed. I'm watching a TrueHD movie right now and it's fine so far. I think watchmen is just not a happy freaking movie to be playing in MPC-HC in general. I mean, I watched an entire DTS-HD MA movie last night with this and had ZERO sync problems. __________________ HTPC: Windows 11, AMD 5900X, RTX 3080, Pioneer Elite VSX-LX303, LG G2 77" OLED

3rd December 2009, 21:24	#9720 \| Link
whurlston Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 207	That was one of the ones I tested and it works up to 5 minutes (which was out of sync without the clock set). I'll let it play longer and report back.

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