PgcEdit 0.5.1 beta (with the Menu Buttons Editor)

r0lZ · 15th March 2005, 20:10

[EDIT: PgcEdit v7.0 has been released. See this thread.]

PgcEdit 0.5.1 beta 1 is available, with, at last, the menu buttons editor (and a couple bugfixes).

As with all betas, it can be downloaded only via my homepage at VideoHelp, in the "All versions" directory.

The menu editor has not been tested at all under Linux and Mac. However, it should work.

If you find a bug related to the menu editor, please report it here.

jeanl · 15th March 2005, 22:06

eeeehaaaa!
jeanl

jeanl · 15th March 2005, 22:32

r0lZ,

First of all, THANK YOU! and congrats on the menu editor. It's absolutely fantastic (like schwartzenegger would say). I should have expected no less from you, but I"m really amazed: it looks like you left nothing behind. I'm not a pro with menus, but it looks to me like you can edit every possible aspect of menus, including the color schemes! The possibilities are endless!!! I'm amazed!

I also need to report what I think is a small bug.
- open the menu editor, and set the force action button after 1 second,
- click OK then click Edit again. All good.
- click OK then click Edit again. The force action after is now -1 seconds.
Of course, this had to be the first thing I checked

The same thing happens on the 2 DVDs I tried....
Jeanl

r0lZ · 15th March 2005, 22:41

Thanks, jeanl.

Yes, the 1 is changed to -1 the second time you enter the editor. Strange! Thanks for the bug repport.

[EDIT:] Stupid bug fixed!

ShawnFumo · 15th March 2005, 23:34

Just a quick question, since I'm not totally sure how the DVD specs work for this. If you had two subpictures muxed into the video, would the latest beta of PgcEdit actually be able to create a button from that? Or does that have to be encoded as a button from the start? I just ask because I've been wanting to do Buttons Over Video, but I don't think any of the free authoring tools support it yet, but of course you can mux in regular subpictures. I'm guessing it probably isn't possible, but just wanted to make sure.

Shawn

r0lZ · 15th March 2005, 23:46

Good question. Honnestly, I don't know the answer!
PgcEdit do not scan the VOBs for subpics. You may probably mux a subpic stream, and then use the menu editor to create a new button around the visible part of the subpic, but you will have to guess where the subpic is positionned on screen. Note that I have never tested this method.

It is also possible to create transparent or translucent menu buttons without any subpic at all. Note that if there are no subpic streams defined in the IFOs, PgcEdit will create one stream definition automatically in the current PGC and in the domain streams attributes section, but will not create a new stream in the VOB.

jsoto · 16th March 2005, 00:41

@r0lZ,
A big thank you.

jsoto

blutach · 16th March 2005, 01:53

r0lZ - How can we say thank you enough?

Hope your paypal is still working!

Regards

r0lZ · 16th March 2005, 02:04

Thanks for the thanks, guys!

blutach · 16th March 2005, 02:47

@r0lZ

If I have previously hidden a button and wish to reinstate it, how can I change the width back to its regular size?

How does one change the x value?

These also apply with the New Button command.

Regards

jeanl · 16th March 2005, 03:03

you have to select one of the groups, not "all". Then the x slider is enabled.
jeanl

blutach · 16th March 2005, 03:07

Of course! What an idiot I am

Regards

blutach · 16th March 2005, 03:11

@r0lZ - the export / import feature makes copying buttons between menu cells an absolute breeze! However, when exporting and importing buttons, at first it appears the buttons's location and size info (x, y, height, width) is kept. However, on reopening the menu or just looking in the menu viewer, these settings don't seem to have "taken". Is this intended?

One suggestion - can we also have a box next to the x, y, height, width sliders, so a value can be manually input? This would be particularly useful for menu design, when you have done the first button's position and want to position the others relative to it. Maybe also a "nudge" slider with the keyboard direction keys for small adjustments (to the pixel).

Also, when we double click on a menu button in the menu viewer, it would be nice if it brought up the editor dialogue box (without having to push the Edit button). What do you think?

Regards

DMagic1 · 16th March 2005, 06:57

Very nice.
I just had a project that could have used this.
Will it be able to add buttons soon?

blutach · 16th March 2005, 06:59

It already does that. Ctrl-M to bring up the relevant menu. Press Edit --> Button --> New Button

Regards

jeanl · 16th March 2005, 07:24

It's scary, it does everything!

jeanl

blutach · 16th March 2005, 08:32

It sure does - it just made me a nice plate of scrambled eggs!

Regards

M7S · 16th March 2005, 09:49

A long wait is over, but it was for sure worth it!

The menueditor is just wonderful.

Thank you r0lZ!!

r0lZ · 16th March 2005, 10:19

Quote:

Originally posted by blutach
@r0lZ - the export / import feature makes copying buttons between menu cells an absolute breeze! However, when exporting and importing buttons, at first it appears the buttons's location and size info (x, y, height, width) is kept. However, on reopening the menu or just looking in the menu viewer, these settings don't seem to have "taken". Is this intended?

No! It should be a bug. Will see...

[EDIT:] OK. Another stupid bug fixed.
Note that if you import the menu button parameters in All Groups mode, the values of the disabled sliders are not imported! (But the current values are always exported, including the disabled sliders in All Groups mode.)

Quote:

One suggestion - can we also have a box next to the x, y, height, width sliders, so a value can be manually input? This would be particularly useful for menu design, when you have done the first button's position and want to position the others relative to it. Maybe also a "nudge" slider with the keyboard direction keys for small adjustments (to the pixel).

Difficult to add an input box. I need to verify the values so that the upper left corner is really to the left and up of the oposite corner, and that the position + width is not too much. Easy to do with sliders, but not with input boxes. However, I'll see what I can do. Maybe I can add some copy/paste buttons?

You can already make small adjustments by clicking in the 'through', white part of the sliders. One click increase/decrease the value by 1, and a long click moves the slider slowly.

The cursor keys are already used to select the adjacent buttons, relative to the current button. Handy to test if the adjacent links are setupped correctly. (Same in the viewer.)

Quote:

Also, when we double click on a menu button in the menu viewer, it would be nice if it brought up the editor dialogue box (without having to push the Edit button). What do you think?

Right. It was my intention to do that, but I forgot. Will be in the next release.

[EDIT:] Done. You'll have to use the right button. Double-clicking with the left button doesn't work for technical reasons.

Also, if you doesn't have already noted: the command button in the viewer is a shortcut to edit the command without having to go in the editor.

Quote:

If I have previously hidden a button and wish to reinstate it, how can I change the width back to its regular size?
How does one change the x value?
These also apply with the New Button command.

As jeanl explained, you have to select another group. It is only possible to edit the X or Y direction in Group All mode if the same value is shared by all groups. But I may add a computation of the correct values for all groups in the future.
Note that the X, Y, width and height values are not changed in All Groups mode if you doesn't move the sliders. This is to allow different values in several groups. So, use the position sliders in All Groups mode with care.

blutach · 16th March 2005, 13:43

Thanks r0lZ - I'll try that and await the next version with the "fixes".

Regards

15th March 2005, 20:10	#1 \| Link
r0lZ PgcEdit daemon Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 7,524	PgcEdit 0.5.1 beta (with the Menu Buttons Editor) [EDIT: PgcEdit v7.0 has been released. See this thread.] PgcEdit 0.5.1 beta 1 is available, with, at last, the menu buttons editor (and a couple bugfixes). As with all betas, it can be downloaded only via my homepage at VideoHelp, in the "All versions" directory. The menu editor has not been tested at all under Linux and Mac. However, it should work. If you find a bug related to the menu editor, please report it here. __________________ r0lZ PgcEdit homepage (hosted by VideoHelp) BD3D2MK3D A tool to convert 3D blu-rays to SBS, T&B or FS MKV Last edited by r0lZ; 22nd April 2006 at 10:36.

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jeanl Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: California, USA Posts: 2,079	eeeehaaaa! jeanl __________________ A few PgcEdit guides. DVDSubEdit a free tool to edit subtitles directly inside the vob.

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jeanl Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: California, USA Posts: 2,079	r0lZ, First of all, THANK YOU! and congrats on the menu editor. It's absolutely fantastic (like schwartzenegger would say). I should have expected no less from you, but I"m really amazed: it looks like you left nothing behind. I'm not a pro with menus, but it looks to me like you can edit every possible aspect of menus, including the color schemes! The possibilities are endless!!! I'm amazed! I also need to report what I think is a small bug. - open the menu editor, and set the force action button after 1 second, - click OK then click Edit again. All good. - click OK then click Edit again. The force action after is now -1 seconds. Of course, this had to be the first thing I checked The same thing happens on the 2 DVDs I tried.... Jeanl __________________ A few PgcEdit guides. DVDSubEdit a free tool to edit subtitles directly inside the vob.

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r0lZ PgcEdit daemon Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 7,524	Thanks, jeanl. Yes, the 1 is changed to -1 the second time you enter the editor. Strange! Thanks for the bug repport. [EDIT:] Stupid bug fixed! __________________ r0lZ PgcEdit homepage (hosted by VideoHelp) BD3D2MK3D A tool to convert 3D blu-rays to SBS, T&B or FS MKV Last edited by r0lZ; 15th March 2005 at 23:36.

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r0lZ PgcEdit daemon Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 7,524	Good question. Honnestly, I don't know the answer! PgcEdit do not scan the VOBs for subpics. You may probably mux a subpic stream, and then use the menu editor to create a new button around the visible part of the subpic, but you will have to guess where the subpic is positionned on screen. Note that I have never tested this method. It is also possible to create transparent or translucent menu buttons without any subpic at all. Note that if there are no subpic streams defined in the IFOs, PgcEdit will create one stream definition automatically in the current PGC and in the domain streams attributes section, but will not create a new stream in the VOB. __________________ r0lZ PgcEdit homepage (hosted by VideoHelp) BD3D2MK3D A tool to convert 3D blu-rays to SBS, T&B or FS MKV

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ShawnFumo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 65	Just a quick question, since I'm not totally sure how the DVD specs work for this. If you had two subpictures muxed into the video, would the latest beta of PgcEdit actually be able to create a button from that? Or does that have to be encoded as a button from the start? I just ask because I've been wanting to do Buttons Over Video, but I don't think any of the free authoring tools support it yet, but of course you can mux in regular subpictures. I'm guessing it probably isn't possible, but just wanted to make sure. Shawn

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jsoto Just a Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 2,067	@r0lZ, A big thank you. jsoto __________________ Web sites with my tools http://download.videohelp.com/jsoto http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/

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blutach Country Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: is everything! Posts: 6,499	r0lZ - How can we say thank you enough? Hope your paypal is still working! Regards __________________ Les Only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media.

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r0lZ PgcEdit daemon Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 7,524	Thanks for the thanks, guys! __________________ r0lZ PgcEdit homepage (hosted by VideoHelp) BD3D2MK3D A tool to convert 3D blu-rays to SBS, T&B or FS MKV

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blutach Country Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: is everything! Posts: 6,499	@r0lZ If I have previously hidden a button and wish to reinstate it, how can I change the width back to its regular size? How does one change the x value? These also apply with the New Button command. Regards __________________ Les Only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media. Last edited by blutach; 16th March 2005 at 07:05.

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jeanl Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: California, USA Posts: 2,079	you have to select one of the groups, not "all". Then the x slider is enabled. jeanl __________________ A few PgcEdit guides. DVDSubEdit a free tool to edit subtitles directly inside the vob.

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blutach Country Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: is everything! Posts: 6,499	Of course! What an idiot I am Regards __________________ Les Only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media.

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blutach Country Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: is everything! Posts: 6,499	@r0lZ - the export / import feature makes copying buttons between menu cells an absolute breeze! However, when exporting and importing buttons, at first it appears the buttons's location and size info (x, y, height, width) is kept. However, on reopening the menu or just looking in the menu viewer, these settings don't seem to have "taken". Is this intended? One suggestion - can we also have a box next to the x, y, height, width sliders, so a value can be manually input? This would be particularly useful for menu design, when you have done the first button's position and want to position the others relative to it. Maybe also a "nudge" slider with the keyboard direction keys for small adjustments (to the pixel). Also, when we double click on a menu button in the menu viewer, it would be nice if it brought up the editor dialogue box (without having to push the Edit button). What do you think? Regards __________________ Les Only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media. Last edited by blutach; 16th March 2005 at 07:16.

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DMagic1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 507	Very nice. I just had a project that could have used this. Will it be able to add buttons soon?

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blutach Country Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: is everything! Posts: 6,499	It already does that. Ctrl-M to bring up the relevant menu. Press Edit --> Button --> New Button Regards __________________ Les Only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media.

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jeanl Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: California, USA Posts: 2,079	It's scary, it does everything! jeanl __________________ A few PgcEdit guides. DVDSubEdit a free tool to edit subtitles directly inside the vob.

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blutach Country Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: is everything! Posts: 6,499	It sure does - it just made me a nice plate of scrambled eggs! Regards __________________ Les Only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media.

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M7S Really? Really really! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 163	A long wait is over, but it was for sure worth it! The menueditor is just wonderful. Thank you r0lZ!! __________________ How many Microsoft employees does it take to screw in a light bulb? None, they declare darkness a new standard. Last edited by M7S; 16th March 2005 at 10:00.

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blutach Country Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: is everything! Posts: 6,499	Thanks r0lZ - I'll try that and await the next version with the "fixes". Regards __________________ Les Only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media.

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