Media Player Classic - BE Win32/x64 - Page 442

Aleksoid1978 · 1st October 2021, 00:20

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Originally Posted by lanzorg

There are more and more windows 11 devices with dolby vision support.
Does it mean we could play dv files on windows 11 with mpc-be soon?

No...

Nabukodonosor · 1st October 2021, 22:38

Hey guys. How to disable embedded subtitles? Or if not, how to force external subtitles? I'm using the latest 1.5.8 x64 BE player and the 2.41 vsfilter. I don't have this issue with the classic MPC, it loads fine, but with BE it doesn't. I mean the app loads it, it's in the selection menu, but it plays embedded subtitle. I have to manually select. Check my screenshots. Any ideas?

v0lt · 2nd October 2021, 15:29

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Originally Posted by Nabukodonosor

How to disable embedded subtitles?

This is not provided.

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Or if not, how to force external subtitles?

Options > Subtitles > Prefer external subtitles over embedded subtitles.

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I'm using the latest 1.5.8 x64 BE player and the 2.41 vsfilter.

I advise you to use the built-in subtitle renderer

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Check my screenshots.

No one will see your screenshots here until you upload pictures on the external hosting for pictures (better just links, and embed an image to the message).

Nabukodonosor · 2nd October 2021, 16:59

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I advise you to use the built-in subtitle renderer

If I do that vsfilter doesn't load at all.

v0lt · 2nd October 2021, 18:44

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Originally Posted by Nabukodonosor

If I do that vsfilter doesn't load at all.

That's the whole point.

Nabukodonosor · 2nd October 2021, 21:43

I'm really trying but I don't understand you. Can you elaborate? Why wouldn't I want vsfilter to load?

clsid · 3rd October 2021, 00:03

Because it is inferior compared to the internal renderer.

Nabukodonosor · 3rd October 2021, 11:42

When I do that, the subtitle doesn't even load anymore.

Klaus1189 · 3rd October 2021, 12:01

Upload sample to google drive or similar and post link here.

Nabukodonosor · 3rd October 2021, 12:27

I've tried internal renderer in classic MPC-HC and it works fine. I try this with BE, the same movie, doesn't load. I have it on my other PC, I will try it there too.

Nabukodonosor · 3rd October 2021, 12:46

Here's the solution:
https://sourceforge.net/p/mpcbe/tickets/874/

Zarxrax · 3rd October 2021, 16:19

I have a question. Are there some settings which can affect the synchronization of the audio and video? Such as splitters, renderers, or other settings? Or should I always have frame perfect audio regardless of those?
Some things sometimes feel just slightly off when I am watching content that heavily relies on the synchronization, but because its such minor difference, its hard to be sure if I'm not just imagining it.

wushantao · 4th October 2021, 05:29

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ryrynz · 4th October 2021, 18:55

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Originally Posted by Zarxrax

I have a question. Are there some settings which can affect the synchronization of the audio and video?.

Test with other renderers and see. Default our of box setups should always be in sync. Could be the files themselves.

Liisachan · 4th October 2021, 22:03

@Zarxrax
FYI if you (re)encode audio (e.g. AAC) when muxing and creating your file, there tends to be encoder delay, typically 20-50 ms, which may be noticeable in e.g. karaoke. This is NOT a player-side problem.

As a rare exception, if you use LAME MP3 with the default settings, then while an audio player that understands the LAME tag hack can play it sample-accurate, an audio player that doesn't understand it will delay the audio by one MP3 frame. Even without the LAME tag padding, MP3 audio is typically delayed by ~23 ms against the video anyway, though.

Anima123 · 6th October 2021, 07:33

Just tried 6581 with only 16-bit integer output for audio, and the sound has apparent delay, I suppose it's due to the new dither option?

There must have some room for the dithering to improve, as I know dithering should be quite fast enough which means something might be wrong at some point of the audio processing line.

Aleksoid1978 · 6th October 2021, 12:02

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Originally Posted by Anima123

Just tried 6581 with only 16-bit integer output for audio, and the sound has apparent delay, I suppose it's due to the new dither option?

There must have some room for the dithering to improve, as I know dithering should be quite fast enough which means something might be wrong at some point of the audio processing line.

Show MPC AR status page.

v0lt · 6th October 2021, 17:28

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Originally Posted by Anima123

Just tried 6581 with only 16-bit integer output for audio, and the sound has apparent delay, I suppose it's due to the new dither option?

I can’t confirm. I was comparing with 1.6.0.6553.

@wushantao
Thanks. Updated in r6574.

Anima123 · 7th October 2021, 06:40

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Originally Posted by v0lt

I can’t confirm. I was comparing with 1.6.0.6553.

I can't reproduce it with my Windows 8.1 laptop neither. But it still is there with my Windows 10 laptop.

v0lt · 8th October 2021, 03:55

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Originally Posted by Anima123

But it still is there with my Windows 10 laptop.

Reset all "Sound processing" settings (you can force Int16 output if needed) and compare with 1.6.0.6553.
Write the specifications of your laptop (CPU, sound card, Windows version).

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Nabukodonosor Registered User Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 22	Hey guys. How to disable embedded subtitles? Or if not, how to force external subtitles? I'm using the latest 1.5.8 x64 BE player and the 2.41 vsfilter. I don't have this issue with the classic MPC, it loads fine, but with BE it doesn't. I mean the app loads it, it's in the selection menu, but it plays embedded subtitle. I have to manually select. Check my screenshots. Any ideas? Attached Images Last edited by Nabukodonosor; 1st October 2021 at 23:00.

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clsid ***** Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,647	Because it is inferior compared to the internal renderer. __________________ MPC-HC 2.2.1

2nd October 2021, 21:43	#8826 \| Link
Nabukodonosor Registered User Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 22	I'm really trying but I don't understand you. Can you elaborate? Why wouldn't I want vsfilter to load?

3rd October 2021, 11:42	#8828 \| Link
Nabukodonosor Registered User Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 22	When I do that, the subtitle doesn't even load anymore.

3rd October 2021, 12:01	#8829 \| Link
Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,667	Upload sample to google drive or similar and post link here.

3rd October 2021, 12:27	#8830 \| Link
Nabukodonosor Registered User Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 22	I've tried internal renderer in classic MPC-HC and it works fine. I try this with BE, the same movie, doesn't load. I have it on my other PC, I will try it there too.

3rd October 2021, 12:46	#8831 \| Link
Nabukodonosor Registered User Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 22	Here's the solution: https://sourceforge.net/p/mpcbe/tickets/874/

3rd October 2021, 16:19	#8832 \| Link
Zarxrax Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,219	I have a question. Are there some settings which can affect the synchronization of the audio and video? Such as splitters, renderers, or other settings? Or should I always have frame perfect audio regardless of those? Some things sometimes feel just slightly off when I am watching content that heavily relies on the synchronization, but because its such minor difference, its hard to be sure if I'm not just imagining it.

4th October 2021, 05:29	#8833 \| Link
wushantao Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 144	Update Simplified Chinese https://files.catbox.moe/7c5tyh.7z https://anonfiles.com/t4P5z0Laua/mplayerc.sc.rc_7z

4th October 2021, 22:03	#8835 \| Link
Liisachan 李姗倩 Lǐ Shān Qiàn Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,340	@Zarxrax FYI if you (re)encode audio (e.g. AAC) when muxing and creating your file, there tends to be encoder delay, typically 20-50 ms, which may be noticeable in e.g. karaoke. This is NOT a player-side problem. As a rare exception, if you use LAME MP3 with the default settings, then while an audio player that understands the LAME tag hack can play it sample-accurate, an audio player that doesn't understand it will delay the audio by one MP3 frame. Even without the LAME tag padding, MP3 audio is typically delayed by ~23 ms against the video anyway, though.

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Anima123 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 504	Just tried 6581 with only 16-bit integer output for audio, and the sound has apparent delay, I suppose it's due to the new dither option? There must have some room for the dithering to improve, as I know dithering should be quite fast enough which means something might be wrong at some point of the audio processing line.