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Old 27th May 2017, 08:17   #43901  |  Link
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happens with the most recent version of the player. Reverted to a previous version and videos play automatically
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Old 27th May 2017, 08:36   #43902  |  Link
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That happens because of a bug in XySubFilter.

There is no benefit in using XySubFilter except for a few idiotically complex Anime fansubs where is renders a bit faster. If you want something that just works reliably, stick with ISR.
oh and try the ISR on UHD even not that complicated subtitles make you problems.

the biggest problem of the ISR is that it doesn't use the "new" subtitle interface. ISR is not correct by a 3D LUT for example. well it can read the colorspace flags of ASS files and use them but it doesn't know the output colorspace.

it would be nice if we could just forget the XY vsfilter/XY subfilter and move on to a bug fixed xy version, a ISR that can do the same or something new like libassmod but we are not that far yet.
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Old 27th May 2017, 09:14   #43903  |  Link
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Setting up a new JVC 7500 PJ and I'm having some issues with 3D. madVR OSD is showing a 3D rendering path but it shows it is scaling from 1920x1080 --> 5720 x 3240 and it is (of course) dropping frames all over the place.

Any suggestions?

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Old 27th May 2017, 09:15   #43904  |  Link
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canyou start with a screen of the OSD?
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Old 27th May 2017, 09:18   #43905  |  Link
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A quick look at the specs suggests that the projector needs to be in 1920x1080 mode for 3D to work anyway, so should do that and avoid all troubles.
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Old 27th May 2017, 09:32   #43906  |  Link
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well madVR "should" output 1080p with frame packed 3D anyway.

quite odd...
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Old 27th May 2017, 10:24   #43907  |  Link
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The subtitles start in the bottom but througt the movi they go up to the movie position.
This is most likely a known bug with external .srt files and italic text (if I remember correctly). Shouldn't happen with all subtitles.
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Old 27th May 2017, 12:38   #43908  |  Link
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i can see the difference between true 23p and 60 hz SM.
but getting 23p in a screen doesn't mean they can handle this properly. the number of 2016 screen that can't handle 23p properly is terrifying. the Samsung KU series can't do such simple stuff.

some people care about frame interpolation and that doesn't work well with SM what so ever at the TV side.

I tried (madvrs)display modes back then and returned to 60hz and SM cause you were right.
Just yesterday I tried the new option ( "hack Direct3D to make 24.000Hz and 60.000Hz work") and it seems to work wonders,for 23.976 it gives me 1 frame drop every 1 hour which seems good but it disables PC mode.
Now I am confused which is the best choice.
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Old 27th May 2017, 13:39   #43909  |  Link
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A quick look at the specs suggests that the projector needs to be in 1920x1080 mode for 3D to work anyway, so should do that and avoid all troubles.
Yeah something is odd. I've even tried putting the PC in 1920x1080/24/3D mode first in the nVidia control panel (I had to also select YCbCr over RGB or I get odd colours as well).... but same thing. I'll play more tomorrow
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edit: and the PJ reports it is getting 1920x1080/24/3D

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Old 27th May 2017, 14:03   #43910  |  Link
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That happens because of a bug in XySubFilter.

There is no benefit in using XySubFilter except for a few idiotically complex Anime fansubs where is renders a bit faster. If you want something that just works reliably, stick with ISR.
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oh and try the ISR on UHD even not that complicated subtitles make you problems.

the biggest problem of the ISR is that it doesn't use the "new" subtitle interface. ISR is not correct by a 3D LUT for example. well it can read the colorspace flags of ASS files and use them but it doesn't know the output colorspace.

it would be nice if we could just forget the XY vsfilter/XY subfilter and move on to a bug fixed xy version, a ISR that can do the same or something new like libassmod but we are not that far yet.
I play mostly 720p and 1080p content on 1080p screen with external and internal subtitles in various formats, mostly .srt and .ssa.

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This is most likely a known bug with external .srt files and italic text (if I remember correctly). Shouldn't happen with all subtitles.
It appears to be that. Ive tested it removing all italic and special stuff from a .srt subtitle and it appeared to solve the problem. Anyway. Its not worthy doing that every time i watch something. So i will use MPC-HC ISR until @huhn`s idea sees the greenlight.


Thanks for the answers
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Old 27th May 2017, 18:48   #43911  |  Link
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Amd

Everyone here running AMD 460/470/480 cards, how are you getting MadVR to work with 4k HDR videos?

It's just black for me. I've updated to the latest version of MadVR, and it's still not working.

Thanks!
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Old 27th May 2017, 19:45   #43912  |  Link
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No black for me,just washed out image if it ever gets enabled.
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Old 27th May 2017, 19:57   #43913  |  Link
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No black for me,just washed out image if it ever gets enabled.
Didn't you also have this issue before though? How did you fix it?
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Old 27th May 2017, 20:00   #43914  |  Link
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That's a different problem.It has to do with the combination of 10 bit HEVC,dxva2(native) and Madvr.If you mean this just don't put dxva2(native) in LAV filters.
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Old 27th May 2017, 20:14   #43915  |  Link
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That's a different problem.It has to do with the combination of 10 bit HEVC,dxva2(native) and Madvr.If you mean this just don't put dxva2(native) in LAV filters.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. So it's not resolved then?
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Old 27th May 2017, 20:19   #43916  |  Link
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No,I get a black screen and madshi doesn't see the problem,he suggests dxva2(copy-back).I just set hardware decoder to none and all good.
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Old 27th May 2017, 22:45   #43917  |  Link
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Hey do you know if a Splash Motion2 or SVP like feature is planned for madVR?
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Old 27th May 2017, 23:22   #43918  |  Link
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madshi usually keeps quite about possible future features. However it seems unlikely anytime soon because it is so hard to do "correctly", there are always errors. Never say never though.

There have been rumors about possible VapourSynth integration which would allow 3D party versions similar to SVP.
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Old 27th May 2017, 23:23   #43919  |  Link
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Hey do you know if a Splash Motion2 or SVP like feature is planned for madVR?
Thats a joke right? Madvr Smooth motion already does it and better with less cpu usage even thought i dont use it because i dislike it. Soap opera and blur doesnt suits me.

I once experimented those "payable" options like Splash and JRiver to discover all of them are utterly a piece of crap claiming to be great in whatever they think they are. I experimented and disliked it. There are similar options available for free and sometimes even better if not all the time.
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Old 27th May 2017, 23:43   #43920  |  Link
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Hey do you know if a Splash Motion2 or SVP like feature is planned for madVR?
SVP integration with madVR (through planned avisynth interface) looks more realistic. However, if madshi will suddenly create GPU-based frame interpolation without typical MVTools/SVP artifacts, it would be fantastic.
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