Welcome to Doom9's Forum, THE in-place to be for everyone interested in DVD conversion.

Before you start posting please read the forum rules. By posting to this forum you agree to abide by the rules.

Domains: forum.doom9.org / forum.doom9.net / forum.doom9.se

 

Go Back   Doom9's Forum > Capturing and Editing Video > New and alternative a/v containers

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 24th December 2014, 10:46   #18341  |  Link
filler56789
SuperVirus
 
filler56789's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Antarctic Japan
Posts: 1,458
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunderbolt8 View Post
I had a dts express track named the same way as I named a blu-ray remux (it was a mkv remux so I couldnt mux it into it), but I wasnt able to find and pick up that track from any menu in mpc-hc (audio switcher is activated). any idea why that is?
Please correct me if I am wrong: you've got a "pure" DTS-Express stream, and LAV Splitter does not support 'containerless' DTS Express --- you would need to wrap it in an .m2ts file, at least. You might add a .WAV header to the stream as well.
__________________
«Your software patents have expired.»

Last edited by filler56789; 24th December 2014 at 10:52. Reason: better wording
filler56789 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th December 2014, 11:03   #18342  |  Link
Thunderbolt8
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,200
Quote:
Originally Posted by filler56789 View Post
Please correct me if I am wrong: you've got a "pure" DTS-Express stream, and LAV Splitter does not support 'containerless' DTS Express --- you would need to wrap it in an .m2ts file, at least. You might add a .WAV header to the stream as well.
yes, a pure stream just with the .dts file extension.

I tried muxing that stream into a m2ts file with tsmuxer, but the result is still the same. cannot find or select the file with mpc-hc

I also cant play the .m2ts file with the dts express track itself, mpc-hc then says I cannot render the file. tried with mpc internal LAV audio and standalone LAV audio, with the dtsdecoderdll.dll placed in those directories
__________________
Laptop Lenovo Legion 5 17IMH05: i5-10300H, 16 GB Ram, NVIDIA GTX 1650 Ti (+ Intel UHD 630), Windows 10 x64, madVR (x64), MPC-HC (x64), LAV Filter (x64), XySubfilter (x64) (K-lite codec pack)

Last edited by Thunderbolt8; 24th December 2014 at 11:11.
Thunderbolt8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th December 2014, 11:42   #18343  |  Link
filler56789
SuperVirus
 
filler56789's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Antarctic Japan
Posts: 1,458
^ Make sure the checkbox for "Secondary (audio)" is ticked in the TSmuxer GUI.
__________________
«Your software patents have expired.»
filler56789 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th December 2014, 11:59   #18344  |  Link
filler56789
SuperVirus
 
filler56789's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Antarctic Japan
Posts: 1,458
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunderbolt8 View Post
...but I wasnt able to find and pick up that track from any menu in mpc-hc (audio switcher is activated).
You said "menu"?

Control + O, select the video file, then choose the "dub" file.

(I'm still using MPC-HC Lite, and I presume/hope the "LAVved" MPC-HC still supports the same trick).

P.S.: As a last resort, you will have to add a proper .WAV header to the DTSX stream:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...49#post1641949
__________________
«Your software patents have expired.»

Last edited by filler56789; 24th December 2014 at 13:10. Reason: disambiguation; add P.S.
filler56789 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th December 2014, 13:10   #18345  |  Link
Thunderbolt8
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,200
Quote:
Originally Posted by filler56789 View Post
^ Make sure the checkbox for "Secondary (audio)" is ticked in the TSmuxer GUI.
that field is greyed out for me.
Quote:
Originally Posted by filler56789 View Post
You said "menu"?

Control + O, select the video file, then choose the "dub" file.

(I'm still using MPC-HC Lite, and I presume/hope the "LAVved" MPC-HC still supports the same trick).
well, I meant right click into the picture and then either audio or filters + audio switcher or filters + lav audio. cant see the dts express track anywhere there.

didnt work with ctrl + o and then the dub file either. only can see the standard 5.1 track of that movie.
__________________
Laptop Lenovo Legion 5 17IMH05: i5-10300H, 16 GB Ram, NVIDIA GTX 1650 Ti (+ Intel UHD 630), Windows 10 x64, madVR (x64), MPC-HC (x64), LAV Filter (x64), XySubfilter (x64) (K-lite codec pack)
Thunderbolt8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th December 2014, 13:13   #18346  |  Link
filler56789
SuperVirus
 
filler56789's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Antarctic Japan
Posts: 1,458
I added a P.S. to my previous post.

Yes, it seems TSmuxer has something against 24-bit DTS Express

P.S.:

Quote:
that field is greyed out for me.
Ooops, by using TSmuxer.exe, not the GUI, it's possible to add manually the secondary switch to the .META file.
__________________
«Your software patents have expired.»

Last edited by filler56789; 24th December 2014 at 13:53. Reason: clarification
filler56789 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th December 2014, 13:49   #18347  |  Link
Thunderbolt8
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,200
thanks for the link to the waveheader. however I dont understand how to edit it. Do I edit the hex field or the text field? and what If the numbers I need exceed the space of the symbols? (e.g. \\\\ for number of bytes arent enough for that many digits I need to express the size in bytes). the track I have is a 1.0 48kHz 96kbps 24-bit track with a size of 80.674.816 bytes

I are confused
__________________
Laptop Lenovo Legion 5 17IMH05: i5-10300H, 16 GB Ram, NVIDIA GTX 1650 Ti (+ Intel UHD 630), Windows 10 x64, madVR (x64), MPC-HC (x64), LAV Filter (x64), XySubfilter (x64) (K-lite codec pack)

Last edited by Thunderbolt8; 24th December 2014 at 13:54.
Thunderbolt8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th December 2014, 13:55   #18348  |  Link
filler56789
SuperVirus
 
filler56789's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Antarctic Japan
Posts: 1,458
Before going into more complications,
please give a try to my last P.S.
__________________
«Your software patents have expired.»
filler56789 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th December 2014, 15:12   #18349  |  Link
Thunderbolt8
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,200
alright, the muxing worked. I can now select the track in mpc-hc. however I still cannot play the track. whenever I switch to it, the video just stops and doesnt continue any more -.-

do I maybe need a certain version of arcsoft here? currenly I am using 1.1.0.1
__________________
Laptop Lenovo Legion 5 17IMH05: i5-10300H, 16 GB Ram, NVIDIA GTX 1650 Ti (+ Intel UHD 630), Windows 10 x64, madVR (x64), MPC-HC (x64), LAV Filter (x64), XySubfilter (x64) (K-lite codec pack)
Thunderbolt8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th December 2014, 15:37   #18350  |  Link
filler56789
SuperVirus
 
filler56789's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Antarctic Japan
Posts: 1,458
Versions 1.1.0.8 and 1.1.0.9 support mono DTS Express.

1.1.0.8 converts mono to stereo, whereas 1.1.0.9 redirects the front center channel to the front left channel
__________________
«Your software patents have expired.»

Last edited by filler56789; 24th December 2014 at 15:38. Reason: grammar
filler56789 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th December 2014, 16:02   #18351  |  Link
Thunderbolt8
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,200
its working now with 1.1.0.8. thanks!
__________________
Laptop Lenovo Legion 5 17IMH05: i5-10300H, 16 GB Ram, NVIDIA GTX 1650 Ti (+ Intel UHD 630), Windows 10 x64, madVR (x64), MPC-HC (x64), LAV Filter (x64), XySubfilter (x64) (K-lite codec pack)
Thunderbolt8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th December 2014, 16:09   #18352  |  Link
filler56789
SuperVirus
 
filler56789's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Antarctic Japan
Posts: 1,458
Yeah, about time!
__________________
«Your software patents have expired.»
filler56789 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th December 2014, 12:36   #18353  |  Link
Boltron
Registered User
 
Boltron's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 94
Merry Christmas.

Santa Nevcairiel, my Christmas wish is for a way to display the LAV Audio Input/Output details as shown on the Status properties on the screen much like madVR displays stats when ^J is hit.

I use JRiver with LAV and madVR. This would be an awesome addition.

Thanks and all the best for the New Year!
__________________
For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert.
Boltron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th December 2014, 12:52   #18354  |  Link
nevcairiel
Registered Developer
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Hamburg/Germany
Posts: 10,406
How would the audio decoder ever show stuff on screen? Just look at the status panel, that's what its for.

If a player wanted to, it could access this information and show it on screen, but LAV will never do that.
__________________
LAV Filters - open source ffmpeg based media splitter and decoders
nevcairiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th December 2014, 13:34   #18355  |  Link
Boltron
Registered User
 
Boltron's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 94
I know the player needs to perform the display but it all starts by making the info available to the player. So my first stop was to see if LAV can provide the details by perhaps an API call. Does this already exist?

Thanks.
__________________
For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert.
Boltron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th December 2014, 14:38   #18356  |  Link
arestarh
Registered User
 
arestarh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Ukraine
Posts: 34
nevcairiel
Can you confirm that in .mkv sample below lav splitter doesn't detect subtitles at all?
Mkvinfo and mediainfo reported that two subtitle .srt strteams presented...
Sample:
http://nekaka.com/d/orXLPiFTUv
or
http://sendfile.su/1065583
arestarh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th December 2014, 01:32   #18357  |  Link
cyberbeing
Broadband Junkie
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,859
Quote:
Originally Posted by arestarh View Post
nevcairiel
Can you confirm that in .mkv sample below lav splitter doesn't detect subtitles at all?
This occurs in LAVFilters because "Track FlagEnabled" is set to false. Which is defined as 'Set if the track is usable.' in the MKV spec. You can fix this with either MKVToolNix Header Editor, or by demuxing the subtitles and muxing them in again.

How much LAV's literal interpretation of this flag makes sense to the end-user is somewhat debatable though, since why would you mux a subtitle track which could never be displayed during playback? The real question is how this flag was originally set, was it user error or something else? Which mkvmerge version was the original untrimmed version of that video muxed with?

Granted, Haali Splitter still makes such tracks available even when that flag is set. If this encode was originally muxed way back in early April 2011 when the Blu-ray was released, Haali was probably the only thing it was ever tested on. Though I suspect this is a somewhat more recent behavior in LAV Filters as a result of him refactoring, so if this was an older encode it may have even worked with LAV way back then.

Last edited by cyberbeing; 26th December 2014 at 01:40.
cyberbeing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th December 2014, 08:38   #18358  |  Link
arestarh
Registered User
 
arestarh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Ukraine
Posts: 34
cyberbeing
Thanks for pointing me out.
I think this was user error.
arestarh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th December 2014, 23:18   #18359  |  Link
Blight
Software Developer
 
Blight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Israel
Posts: 1,021
Nev:
I got this MKV+VC1 clip that causes an access violation in ntdll.dll when trying to remove the 'LAV Video Decoder' filter from the graph.
It doesn't always throw the error, perhaps some sort of race condition? Hardware acceleration is set to 'none'.

Switching the video decoder to Microsoft's DMO and the error isn't triggered anymore.

Here's the clip:
http://zoomplayer.com/t/vc1ar_anamorphic.zip
__________________
Yaron Gur
Zoom Player Developer

Last edited by Blight; 28th December 2014 at 23:47. Reason: server wouldn't serve mkv files, zipped the clip to make it downloadable
Blight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th December 2014, 23:36   #18360  |  Link
filler56789
SuperVirus
 
filler56789's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Antarctic Japan
Posts: 1,458
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blight View Post
The server returns:

404 - File or directory not found.
filler56789 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
decoders, directshow, filters, splitter

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 13:01.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.