iuvcr best capture prog !?!?!

komaklar · 5th February 2002, 18:26

hiho!

month ago i read a thread about iuvcr (iulab) and i was surprised about its quality!

virtual dub + my original anubis driver failed totally!
i wasn't even able to capture 320*240 huffyuv....
but iulab and its special wdm-capture driver (compatible with winxp) works just perfect!
only disadvantage, its not free and has a limt of days, so you have to install it again.

did nobody else heard about this prog, this might be interesting for everyone who has problems with vitual dub!

cya
komaklar

http://www.iulab.com

Milos · 8th February 2002, 18:00

I agree with you, iuVCR is by far the best capturing prog I've used so far, with my Asus V8200 deluxe.

CPU usage is so low, I can even crop video in real-time.

This comes (I think) from a very good WDM interface; which is obviously better than vfw.

All you need is a good WDM driver for your video card ...

phrentec · 9th February 2002, 03:13

iuVCR is good but for my slow p3 i get too many dropped frames. I like the way the program steals audio resources from other programs. The only thing about it is that i cant get the audio and video to be in synch no matter how many different options i mess around with. Right now for my computer i prefer avi_io_trial for video capture with DivX4.12 as it has given me almost perfect captures, it also comes with a scheduler.

Arepiv · 13th February 2002, 17:47

I am using iuVCR as well but I am quite confused with the frame rate I get. It's programmed for 25 fps but the result is an average of 24.7 fps. What confuses me is that there are 0 frame drops ! How can this be ?

Any idea on this ?

Arepiv

komaklar · 14th February 2002, 19:38

@ phrentec
i have the same prob when leaving the audio-stream in original pcm! encoding to mp3 solves the sync problems... (dont ask me why)

henriQ · 15th February 2002, 15:55

Yes. FLYCAP it is. And lighter on demands over
your system. And: it is Freeware.

cjaar · 12th December 2002, 09:11

@ Milos

did the corp filter come with iuvcr??? or u installed it saperately... can i know where can i get the same

TA
cj

tuco · 12th December 2002, 13:50

I still prefer vdub with a/v sync mod with both vfw and wdm drivers (you need the wrapper for wdm.) iuvcr was too buggy on my system and there are better programs out there that can capture just as well or better for free. Virtualvcr is another good one with wdm drivers.

DaveQB · 14th January 2003, 07:41

VirtulVCR performs slightly better here then iuVCR

i love iuVCR but frames are like 24.72 etc
but Virtual VCR gets it up to 24.99xxxx

but still with both proggies i get the video racing ahead of the aduio to wheres its over a second ahead after bout 45 mins

Video: mjpeg @ 19
Audio: PCM @ 44100hz, 16, stereo

i'll try komaklar idea to compress the Audio, see what happens

(if it works, that sux ya cant cap in uncompressed)

ohliuv · 14th January 2003, 09:08

VirtualDub Sync works best for me. My system is PIII/1GHz, NVIDIA graphic, TerraTVValue, capture in half PAL to DivX5.02

DaveQB · 14th January 2003, 09:10

yeah i never had a sync problem with that

problem now is that i have a CX23881 based card and want to cap @ larger then 320x240 res

i found a solution for everyone

http://www.vcdhelp.com/forum/viewtop...=425910#425910

anyone know what VD does different to other cap programs to keep sync so well ???

14th January 2003, 19:51

I've never had sync problems with IUVCR. I usually cap in MJPEG at 90% or 95%(Morgan MJPEG is a fine product, worth the $$$), and PCM audio. 1 hour cap and it's synced at the end, zero dropped frames at 640x480. Athlon 2000 and a 100 GB drive with 8 MB cache helps.

I don't like it's scheduler, it's not friendly to setting up weekly timed recordings. It does tend to drop frames the first 10 seconds on timed recording, but so what, I always start 1 minute early. It doesn't like to pause and resume either. PowerVCR sucks because it's MPEG only, but it's really nice about timed captures.

DaveQB · 14th January 2003, 20:34

hmmm changing the frame rate through VD doesnt always work

i capped a file from my Camcorder (8mm tapes) and ran it through (intially saying Video was @ 25.000 and Audio @ 24.826) but even after syncing them the Video was still a bit ahead after half way through.

so tried setting the frame rate to 24.800 and that was too much compensation,
so trying now @ 24.820

but why this is happening i have no idea,
yet to try Audio compression
i never had this trouble before when using a BT878 and VD and capping @ 352x288

this sux!

one think though, now using Virtual VCR, i can cap and do many other things with a single frame drop

hahhaha, but now i need frames to be droped

(to keep sync)

NeVeRLiFt · 14th January 2003, 22:16

I like iuVCR and use it alot, but I also use AVI_IO and recommend people to try it out to.

DaveQB · 14th January 2003, 23:11

hmm i have tried AVI_IO but it either crashes on me @ low Res and hi res it wont capture

i am very happy with Virtual VCR anyway

fasttimes · 15th January 2003, 00:06

The best capture apps are VirtualVCR (WDM) or VirtualDub Mod (VfW), with the universal BTWinCap drivers. These are the only capture apps that maintain AV sync by resampeling the audio, not duping/dropping frames (yuck!) And the BTWinCap universal drivers are much more compatible than the iulabs universal drivers.

DaveQB · 15th January 2003, 00:10

Quote:

Originally posted by fasttimes
The best capture apps are VirtualVCR (WDM) or VirtualDub Mod (VfW), with the universal BTWinCap drivers. These are the only capture apps that maintain AV sync by resampeling the audio, not duping/dropping frames (yuck!) And the BTWinCap universal drivers are much more compatible than the iulabs universal drivers.

cool,
i still got sync problems with Virtual VCR

but i used a copy i had on my HDD (ver2.3 build 2301 or something )

so downloaded the lastest and will try that
i notice alot of sync fixes in th change log

fasttimes · 15th January 2003, 00:23

Quote:

Originally posted by DaveQB
cool,
i still got sync problems with Virtual VCR
but i used a copy i had on my HDD (ver2.3 build 2301 or something )

I don't know what to tell you poor guys. Some rare people, continue to have the sync problems. My fisrt instinct would be that they have VVCR configured incorrectly. But, I'm sure this is *not* the case, for many having problems.

DaveQB · 15th January 2003, 00:32

Quote:

Originally posted by fasttimes
I don't know what to tell you poor guys. Some rare people, continue to have the sync problems. My fisrt instinct would be that they have VVCR configured incorrectly. But, I'm sure this is *not* the case, for many having problems.

you dont have sync problems ???

can you post yuor exact settings here for us ??

so we can compare
and maybe a cable configuration too

much appreciated

fasttimes · 15th January 2003, 01:13

Quote:

Originally posted by DaveQB
you dont have sync problems ???

Not a one

I just upgraded to the latest version. Here are my settings:

Settings - AV Sync Tab - Check *only* "Resample Audio" and select "Resample Audio Dynamically".

5th February 2002, 18:26	#1 \| Link
komaklar Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 7	iuvcr best capture prog !?!?! hiho! month ago i read a thread about iuvcr (iulab) and i was surprised about its quality! virtual dub + my original anubis driver failed totally! i wasn't even able to capture 320240 huffyuv.... but iulab and its special wdm-capture driver (compatible with winxp) works just perfect! only disadvantage, its not free and has a limt of days, so you have to install it again. did nobody else heard about this prog, this might be interesting for everyone who has problems with vitual dub! cya komaklar http://www.iulab.com Last edited by komaklar; 6th February 2002 at 12:46.*

15th February 2002, 15:55	#6 \| Link
henriQ Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 38	At least as good but with an EXTRA asset Yes. FLYCAP it is. And lighter on demands over your system. And: it is Freeware.

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tuco Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 51	I still prefer vdub with a/v sync mod with both vfw and wdm drivers (you need the wrapper for wdm.) iuvcr was too buggy on my system and there are better programs out there that can capture just as well or better for free. Virtualvcr is another good one with wdm drivers. __________________ tuco

14th January 2003, 07:41	#9 \| Link
DaveQB Theora and Mkv fan! :) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 347	VirtulVCR performs slightly better here then iuVCR i love iuVCR but frames are like 24.72 etc but Virtual VCR gets it up to 24.99xxxx but still with both proggies i get the video racing ahead of the aduio to wheres its over a second ahead after bout 45 mins Video: mjpeg @ 19 Audio: PCM @ 44100hz, 16, stereo i'll try komaklar idea to compress the Audio, see what happens (if it works, that sux ya cant cap in uncompressed) __________________ Can't we all just get along? Opty 146 @ 2.5Ghz \|\| nForce3 \|\|1x330 + 3x120gig \|\| CX23881 Capture Card OCAU \|\| My blog Proud to be an Aussie!

14th January 2003, 09:10	#11 \| Link
DaveQB Theora and Mkv fan! :) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 347	yeah i never had a sync problem with that problem now is that i have a CX23881 based card and want to cap @ larger then 320x240 res i found a solution for everyone http://www.vcdhelp.com/forum/viewtop...=425910#425910 anyone know what VD does different to other cap programs to keep sync so well ??? __________________ Can't we all just get along? Opty 146 @ 2.5Ghz \|\| nForce3 \|\|1x330 + 3x120gig \|\| CX23881 Capture Card OCAU \|\| My blog Proud to be an Aussie! Last edited by DaveQB; 14th January 2003 at 09:12.

8th February 2002, 18:00	#2 \| Link
Milos Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 8	I agree with you, iuVCR is by far the best capturing prog I've used so far, with my Asus V8200 deluxe. CPU usage is so low, I can even crop video in real-time. This comes (I think) from a very good WDM interface; which is obviously better than vfw. All you need is a good WDM driver for your video card ...

9th February 2002, 03:13	#3 \| Link
phrentec waprout? Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: LA Posts: 224	iuVCR is good but for my slow p3 i get too many dropped frames. I like the way the program steals audio resources from other programs. The only thing about it is that i cant get the audio and video to be in synch no matter how many different options i mess around with. Right now for my computer i prefer avi_io_trial for video capture with DivX4.12 as it has given me almost perfect captures, it also comes with a scheduler.

13th February 2002, 17:47	#4 \| Link
Arepiv Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1	I am using iuVCR as well but I am quite confused with the frame rate I get. It's programmed for 25 fps but the result is an average of 24.7 fps. What confuses me is that there are 0 frame drops ! How can this be ? Any idea on this ? Arepiv

14th February 2002, 19:38	#5 \| Link
komaklar Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 7	@ phrentec i have the same prob when leaving the audio-stream in original pcm! encoding to mp3 solves the sync problems... (dont ask me why)

12th December 2002, 09:11	#7 \| Link
cjaar Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 186	@ Milos did the corp filter come with iuvcr??? or u installed it saperately... can i know where can i get the same TA cj

14th January 2003, 09:08	#10 \| Link
ohliuv Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Belgium Posts: 113	VirtualDub Sync works best for me. My system is PIII/1GHz, NVIDIA graphic, TerraTVValue, capture in half PAL to DivX5.02

14th January 2003, 19:51	#12 \| Link
Gazorgan Guest Posts: n/a	I've never had sync problems with IUVCR. I usually cap in MJPEG at 90% or 95%(Morgan MJPEG is a fine product, worth the $$$), and PCM audio. 1 hour cap and it's synced at the end, zero dropped frames at 640x480. Athlon 2000 and a 100 GB drive with 8 MB cache helps. I don't like it's scheduler, it's not friendly to setting up weekly timed recordings. It does tend to drop frames the first 10 seconds on timed recording, but so what, I always start 1 minute early. It doesn't like to pause and resume either. PowerVCR sucks because it's MPEG only, but it's really nice about timed captures.

14th January 2003, 20:34	#13 \| Link
DaveQB Theora and Mkv fan! :) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 347	hmmm changing the frame rate through VD doesnt always work i capped a file from my Camcorder (8mm tapes) and ran it through (intially saying Video was @ 25.000 and Audio @ 24.826) but even after syncing them the Video was still a bit ahead after half way through. so tried setting the frame rate to 24.800 and that was too much compensation, so trying now @ 24.820 but why this is happening i have no idea, yet to try Audio compression i never had this trouble before when using a BT878 and VD and capping @ 352x288 this sux! one think though, now using Virtual VCR, i can cap and do many other things with a single frame drop hahhaha, but now i need frames to be droped (to keep sync) __________________ Can't we all just get along? Opty 146 @ 2.5Ghz \|\| nForce3 \|\|1x330 + 3x120gig \|\| CX23881 Capture Card OCAU \|\| My blog Proud to be an Aussie!

14th January 2003, 22:16	#14 \| Link
NeVeRLiFt Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In the shadows of the Megacorporations Posts: 146	I like iuVCR and use it alot, but I also use AVI_IO and recommend people to try it out to.

14th January 2003, 23:11	#15 \| Link
DaveQB Theora and Mkv fan! :) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 347	hmm i have tried AVI_IO but it either crashes on me @ low Res and hi res it wont capture i am very happy with Virtual VCR anyway __________________ Can't we all just get along? Opty 146 @ 2.5Ghz \|\| nForce3 \|\|1x330 + 3x120gig \|\| CX23881 Capture Card OCAU \|\| My blog Proud to be an Aussie!

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fasttimes What-- Me Worry? Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 111	The best capture apps are VirtualVCR (WDM) or VirtualDub Mod (VfW), with the universal BTWinCap drivers. These are the only capture apps that maintain AV sync by resampeling the audio, not duping/dropping frames (yuck!) And the BTWinCap universal drivers are much more compatible than the iulabs universal drivers.

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