KiSS DP-558

Lord_KiRon · 17th January 2005, 21:46

Here : http://www.mpeg-playcenter.com/modul...er=asc&start=0
is my "blog style" review of this new KiSS recorder with DivX capabilities (Sigma EM8560 based) .

The thread is a bit long and sorry for my sometimes bad english but it covers recorder from user expirience point of view.
I was adding problems and ideas from the day I got this recorder up until now (and going to continue) .

But if you wish to know how this recorder performs day by day read that thread.

I intentionaly did NOT covered MPEG4 playback , just general user expirience.
In that area it's basicly same as my old DP-500 player but with better DivX 3.11 support , bit faster (but still slow) FF/REW and a lot of freezes

Bottom line - it's really bad

, I don't know may be with time software(firmware) will be more mature but for now it stinks, I'd say not even Beta level - Alpha.

bond · 19th January 2005, 13:54

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Originally posted by Lord_KiRon
this new KiSS recorder with DivX capabilities (Sigma EM8560 based)

are you sure about the "EM8560"? sigma doesnt offer such a chip (also not an EM8650)

the most easiest way to test whether this player uses an old generation chip or a new generation one is probably to try playing a file using qpel, as qpel is supported on the all the new sigma chips, but on none of the old ones

Lord_KiRon · 19th January 2005, 14:12

Quet sure

I also "chated" with Keith (Sigma engeneer) at AVS forums and he confirmed this.
Acording to him EM8560/8510 is "overclocked" (CPU clocked 200 or 233Mhz) versions of EM8550/8500 with support for more video memory (up to 16MB instead of 4MB) and RAM (up to 64MB instead of 12/8).
also DSP is separated from main ARM CPU.

He sais they did not updated the site because was busy with CES and few other things.

Btw: they are mentioned here : http://www.sigmadesigns.com/products...tion_guide.htm

Anyway except better DivX 3.11 support that still goes slideshow on higher bitrates but this time no at 800+ but at about 1300+ that quet acceptable and faster FF/REW that still slow + promise for Nero support "soon" there are no real changes.
At lest for good

, DP-558 freezes hell lot more and have more problems playing files (especially XviD) then older DP-500.

Please note no QPel support , QPel is only in EM8620L and newer chips , this one is new version of EM8550.

bond · 19th January 2005, 14:33

thanks a lot!

so this player uses a slightly modified EM8510 as mentioned on the sigmadesigns homepage here
pretty old one

17th January 2005, 21:46	#1 \| Link
Lord_KiRon Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 151	KiSS DP-558 Here : http://www.mpeg-playcenter.com/modul...er=asc&start=0 is my "blog style" review of this new KiSS recorder with DivX capabilities (Sigma EM8560 based) . The thread is a bit long and sorry for my sometimes bad english but it covers recorder from user expirience point of view. I was adding problems and ideas from the day I got this recorder up until now (and going to continue) . But if you wish to know how this recorder performs day by day read that thread. I intentionaly did NOT covered MPEG4 playback , just general user expirience. In that area it's basicly same as my old DP-500 player but with better DivX 3.11 support , bit faster (but still slow) FF/REW and a lot of freezes Bottom line - it's really bad , I don't know may be with time software(firmware) will be more mature but for now it stinks, I'd say not even Beta level - Alpha.

19th January 2005, 14:12	#3 \| Link
Lord_KiRon Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 151	Quet sure I also "chated" with Keith (Sigma engeneer) at AVS forums and he confirmed this. Acording to him EM8560/8510 is "overclocked" (CPU clocked 200 or 233Mhz) versions of EM8550/8500 with support for more video memory (up to 16MB instead of 4MB) and RAM (up to 64MB instead of 12/8). also DSP is separated from main ARM CPU. He sais they did not updated the site because was busy with CES and few other things. Btw: they are mentioned here : http://www.sigmadesigns.com/products...tion_guide.htm Anyway except better DivX 3.11 support that still goes slideshow on higher bitrates but this time no at 800+ but at about 1300+ that quet acceptable and faster FF/REW that still slow + promise for Nero support "soon" there are no real changes. At lest for good , DP-558 freezes hell lot more and have more problems playing files (especially XviD) then older DP-500. Please note no QPel support , QPel is only in EM8620L and newer chips , this one is new version of EM8550. Last edited by Lord_KiRon; 19th January 2005 at 14:14.

19th January 2005, 14:33	#4 \| Link
bond Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 9,770	thanks a lot! so this player uses a slightly modified EM8510 as mentioned on the sigmadesigns homepage here pretty old one __________________ Between the weak and the strong one it is the freedom which oppresses and the law that liberates (Jean Jacques Rousseau) I know, that I know nothing (Socrates) MPEG-4 ASP FAQ \| AVC/H.264 FAQ \| AAC FAQ \| MP4 FAQ \| MP4Menu stores DVD Menus in MP4 (guide) Ogg Theora \| Ogg Vorbis use WM9 today and get Micro$oft controlling the A/V market tomorrow for free Last edited by bond; 19th January 2005 at 14:52.