Hard Subtitles from Bluray

whipdancer · 22nd December 2009, 22:56

Hopefully this is the right place to ask this question...

I have 2 different movies on BD that I have converted to mp4 (Gran Torino and Mongol). I am missing subtitles (different kinds) in both cases.

In Gran Torino - the scenes in the Hmong house, I see the forced subtitles when I play it on my BD player. I see several PGS streams for subtitles. Is there some way to identify the forced subtitles? I would like to hard code the forced subtitles into the MP4.

In Mongol - I need the full subtitles. Again, I see several PGS streams to choose from. I found suprip, that was able to extract a mongol.sup file, but I don't know what to do with it.

I've been searching for a while and most of the posts I find on subtitles refer to including them in an MKV or something. I'm not interested in multiple subtitles. I have a bunch of foreign language DVD's that I was able to hardcode the subtitles when I converted them. I'm finding it is not nearly as easy with BD.

Any guidance would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
~Whip

Inspector.Gadget · 23rd December 2009, 00:34

Use eac3to against the ripped folder to get a list of tracks (including subs) and demux them to .SUP files and then use Suprip to convert to .SRT - check the "Only forced subtitles" box in the "SRT" tab in Suprip.

whipdancer · 23rd December 2009, 15:54

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Originally Posted by Inspector.Gadget

Use eac3to against the ripped folder to get a list of tracks (including subs) and demux them to .SUP files and then use Suprip to convert to .SRT - check the "Only forced subtitles" box in the "SRT" tab in Suprip.

Thanks, I must have missed that setting.

I will try it this evening.

I'm assuming I have to re-encode the video if I want to hard code the subtitles - is that correct?

I've converted my BD to mp4 so that I can play them anywhere in the house. So I've already reduced the size to about 8 to 10gigs per movie. Any tips on adding the subtitles without degrading the video?

Much appreciated,
~Whip

Inspector.Gadget · 23rd December 2009, 17:42

Quote:

I'm assuming I have to re-encode the video if I want to hard code the subtitles - is that correct?

Yes.

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Any tips on adding the subtitles without degrading the video?

Begin anew from the disc.

whipdancer · 24th December 2009, 00:51

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Originally Posted by Inspector.Gadget

Yes.

Begin anew from the disc.

That's kinda what I figured. Thanks for the info.

~Whip

Blue_MiSfit · 24th December 2009, 01:02

Suprip is a nightmare, it constantly crashes and has poor OCR accuracy.

I suggest just using SupTitle (an AviSynth plugin) to burn the subs into your video stream. It has an option for "forced only". Works great!

~MiSfit

whipdancer · 27th December 2009, 03:13

If this belongs in a different forum - please tell me.

How would you suggest I proceed? (or maybe pointers on what I list below)

So, I start over with the original disc and video.

I rip the BD to my HD.

Demux(? is that correct) the subtitle stream I am after.

Convert the m2ts to mp4 (my preferred format), importing the SRT file I created in the process of demuxing the subtitle stream - so that I create a video with burned-in subtitles.

Does that sound basically correct?

Again, thanks for all the help.
~Whip

Zachs · 1st January 2010, 08:21

If you want to use SupTitle, then you could skip the SRT part.
Just use the PGS .SUP file as-is for hardsubbing.

whipdancer · 7th January 2010, 03:07

Thanks for the help. It is very much appreciated.

~Whip

22nd December 2009, 22:56	#1 \| Link
whipdancer Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 104	Hard Subtitles from Bluray Hopefully this is the right place to ask this question... I have 2 different movies on BD that I have converted to mp4 (Gran Torino and Mongol). I am missing subtitles (different kinds) in both cases. In Gran Torino - the scenes in the Hmong house, I see the forced subtitles when I play it on my BD player. I see several PGS streams for subtitles. Is there some way to identify the forced subtitles? I would like to hard code the forced subtitles into the MP4. In Mongol - I need the full subtitles. Again, I see several PGS streams to choose from. I found suprip, that was able to extract a mongol.sup file, but I don't know what to do with it. I've been searching for a while and most of the posts I find on subtitles refer to including them in an MKV or something. I'm not interested in multiple subtitles. I have a bunch of foreign language DVD's that I was able to hardcode the subtitles when I converted them. I'm finding it is not nearly as easy with BD. Any guidance would be much appreciated. Thanks, ~Whip

24th December 2009, 01:02	#6 \| Link
Blue_MiSfit Derek Prestegard IRL Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,025	Suprip is a nightmare, it constantly crashes and has poor OCR accuracy. I suggest just using SupTitle (an AviSynth plugin) to burn the subs into your video stream. It has an option for "forced only". Works great! ~MiSfit __________________ These are all my personal statements, not those of my employer :)

27th December 2009, 03:13	#7 \| Link
whipdancer Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 104	one more question If this belongs in a different forum - please tell me. How would you suggest I proceed? (or maybe pointers on what I list below) So, I start over with the original disc and video. I rip the BD to my HD. Demux(? is that correct) the subtitle stream I am after. Convert the m2ts to mp4 (my preferred format), importing the SRT file I created in the process of demuxing the subtitle stream - so that I create a video with burned-in subtitles. Does that sound basically correct? Again, thanks for all the help. ~Whip

23rd December 2009, 00:34	#2 \| Link
Inspector.Gadget Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,618	Use eac3to against the ripped folder to get a list of tracks (including subs) and demux them to .SUP files and then use Suprip to convert to .SRT - check the "Only forced subtitles" box in the "SRT" tab in Suprip.

1st January 2010, 08:21	#8 \| Link
Zachs Suptitle, MediaPlayer.NET Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,721	If you want to use SupTitle, then you could skip the SRT part. Just use the PGS .SUP file as-is for hardsubbing.

7th January 2010, 03:07	#9 \| Link
whipdancer Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 104	Thanks for the help. It is very much appreciated. ~Whip