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Old 10th February 2023, 22:28   #73  |  Link
DTL
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Yes - most of torrent-releases of any new title and broadcast recordings have now xvid-based version of SD resolution with very low bitrate. It is defacto hard standard of media files today. It is sort of natural public voting against zilions non-supported in old hardware players modern codecs with some % of better quality and with requirement to make payment for new hardware or look for software decoder in geeks boxes with updatable firmware/software. Most of real people are simple and like to have plug-and-play media workflow with once for decades purchased simple stable video playback hardware.

The era of computer geeks @home is gone in the past. Very fast in about 20 years - only about 1/5 of a century.

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I mean, we're here talking about H.266 VVC getting ready soon-ish and there are people still encoding in XVID... It definitely makes you wonder...
In practice the residuals of this current dying civilization do not need new non-compatible video codes every 3..5 and even 10 years. The colour analog SDTV work for about half of a century and most users where happy. So may be one new digital codec every half or 1 century may be enough (if civilization do not die too fast and can keep itself stable at the level like 2000 at least a century).

The quality of video codecs reach its 'saturation for general public' at about transition from MPEG-4 ASP to AVC. The MPEG2 was yet about too simple and blocky.

Only moneymakers tried to take more money from general more and more poor public forcing it to move to 265 with 10bit and HD/UHD/HDR/WCG. And general public voting against it using 8bit SDR SD xvid of MPEG-4 ASP with build-it deblocking and a bit more advancing after MPEG-2.

Also a small group of geeks at this planet still tried to make extra/super/ultra/video codec (at some places numbered 266, 267..268+/++) with some more % or part of % of efficiency with 10..100..100000+x more compute resources to encode and _new_ hardware to decode.

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Back then, formats like IMX50 based on MPEG-2 All Intra 50 Mbit/s 4:2:2 were popular for SD files.
In 2006, as little as 2 years after H.264 was introduced, the world moved to HD (and then FULL HD) and Sony made the XDCAM set of standard which is essentially MPEG-2 for both HD and FULL HD.
Guess what happened? Many companies wanted "stability" and adopted it instead of H.264, but that was a big, big mistake. As result, most broadcasters are still using MPEG-2 for FULL HD contents to this very day and are hog-tied to this ancient, no longer supported, unoptimized codec with banding problems and what not.
It is true - some broadcast company in poor country still finally move to HD to the end of 201x and take as standard for file exchange MPEG2 50Mbit/s 4:2:2 LongGOP MXF. Though when in come to broadcast it is downgraded to SD 2 Mbit 4:2:0 h.264.

Last edited by DTL; 10th February 2023 at 23:43.
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