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Originally Posted by r0lZ
Welcome to the Doom9 forums, macrea !
I'm not sure I understand exactly what you want to do. It seems that you want "to output losslessly to ISO". That is easy to do and there are several free or commercial programs able to extract the video, audio and subtitle streams (including the MVC stream with the 3D-Planes) from an original 3DBD and write them unchanged to a new ISO, It's just a copy, and the 3D-Planes should not be lost. You have just to verify thet they are correctly assigned to your subtitle streams during the remux. I think that TsMuxeR can do that perfectly, and you can easily see the original 3D-Planes assignments and assign them to your subtitle streams with its GUI. Is it what you want? If it's the case, you don't need BD3D2MK3D at all, and the copy is really lossless.
You wrote also "I'd like to be able to output to frame-packed ISO in order to keep the quality lossless as well as being compliant." The question is, what frame-packed format do you want? AVC+MVC like in the original BD3D? That's exactly what I have explained in the first paragraph. Or do you want to re-encode to AVC+MVC with the possibility to hardcode the subtitles? In that case, I don't think that there is a complete solution. Or do you just want to output as a single interleaved AVC stream (aka "Frame Sequential") and hardcode the subtitles? In that case, you can use BD3D2NK3D to generate the right frame sequential video stream, and use TsMuxeR to build the ISO. The 3D-Planes cannot be used with that kind of output, but since the subtitles are hardcoded, you don't need them any more. Anyway, only the first case is really lossless.
BD3D2MK3D is not designed to re-encode in MVC, or to output to an ISO. It can only re-encode to SBS, T&B or Frame Sequential, and that 3 formats require only AVC encoding. That means that BD3D2MK3D doesn't have the MVC encoder to encode the right video streams for a 3DBD. So, if you want to re-create a real 3DBD with the AVC and MVC video streams, you need another encoder. And currently, the only free MVC encoder is the Intel encoder, used for example by FRIM.
I can't help much more without knowing exactly what you want to do. |
Thanks for the warm welcome!
As was described in your first paragraph, I want to remux to ISO without any re-encoding, keeping only the titles and subtitles I need, while keeping it compliant for burning if I want to.
I have read in a couple places that TSMuxer has bugs/issues with handling planes correctly. From my understanding, TSMuxer won't show you the original planes. It just lets you select the plane you want to use. Is that incorrect? If you use the wrong plane for the subtltle (a different plane than originally on the disc), then the results will not work correctly. This is why I was wondering if BD3D2MK3D would be useful for finding which plane to use in TSMuxer.
I did try using TSMuxer a while back, and it was a foreign animated 3D blu-ray with English subtitles. They must have messed up the planes on the disc because the subs are flat on the screen (plane zero?), cutting through lots of 3D objects and ruing the experience. After using TSMuxer, the subtitles still had the same problem.
I'm new to this 3D planes thing, but am I right that the higher the number in TSMuxer, the farther out of the screen the subtitles are? I'd like to place them far enough out that they won't cut through objects. Any advice would be appreciated.
I also read that some 3D films can have dynamic planes, which place the subs in different planes based on individual dialog, so one line might be on a different plane than another line, depending on the action on-screen. Can anybody suggest a better software solution than TSMuxer for this, or is TSMuxer recommended?