thanks
so, the second half of the volume id is not in that sectors, or better, not in the data portion of that sectors, maybe it's in what CPR_MAI field is for dvd-rom secotrs (6bytes of data before the 2048 data bytes), but i don't know the phisical structure of hd-dvd (does anyone has the not public hd-dvd phisical book?), and anyway an hacked firmware is needed for a raw reading.
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