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Old 3rd March 2016, 12:28   #828  |  Link
konikpolny
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watching 3D in 2D mode in MPC

r0lZ thanks a lot for the info about 2D mode for 3D movies in PotPlayer.

In MPC custom Pan&Scan settings for watching 2D of a 3D can be added in menu View (or right click on video) > Pan&Scan > Edit...
The idea of how to create those settings I found here.

For testing rather than creating these one by one you can add all my settings directly into the MPC .ini file in the [Settings\PnSPresets] section under the existing 3 settings: 0=Scale to 16:9, 1=Zoom To Ultra-Widescreen, and 2=Zoom To Widescreen:

Preset3=3D (Half-SBS) to 2D [LEFT frame],1.000,0.500,2.000,1.000
Preset4=3D (Half-SBS) to 2D [right frame],0.000,0.500,2.000,1.000
Preset5=3D (Full-SBS) to 2D [LEFT frame],1.000,0.500,2.000,2.000
Preset6=3D (Full-SBS) to 2D [right frame],0.000,0.500,2.000,2.000
Preset7=3D (Half-OU) to 2D [TOP frame],0.500,0.875,1.000,2.000
Preset8=3D (Half-OU) to 2D [bottom frame],0.500,0.125,1.000,2.000
Preset9=3D (Full-OU) to 2D [TOP frame] 2.40:1 widescreen,0.500,0.875,1.800,1.800
Preset10=3D (Full-OU) to 2D [TOP frame] 16:9 (bot-edge),0.500,0.917,1.733,1.800
Preset11=3D (Full-OU) to 2D [bottom frame] 16:9 (top-edge),0.500,0.100,1.733,1.750

You must take into account that my Full-SBS / Full-OU settings above are for views displayed in their original AR ie. not squeezed and MPC is making such a video smaller to fit in the screen. Full-SBS / Full-TB movies with SAR 1:2 in MPC are squeezed and therefore to watch them in 2D they should be treated as Half-SBS/Half-OU.
These presets work perfecly for SBS movies, with T&B however it really depends on what AR your monitor has. On 16:10 monitors the movies with AR 16:9 will show the edge of top/bottom of the other picture and therefore you should probably correct the display by either moving the picture down to the bottom screen edge (if top picture is selected) or by moving the picture up to the top screen edge by using key combinations --> MPC defaults are Ctr+Num8 to move the picture up, and Ctr+Num2 to move the picture down.
That is yet another reason why I prefer SBS movies

Worth remembering is that you can quickly reset the used Pan&Scan setting in MPC by pressing Num5.

As regards 3D subtitles I personally prefer .ass subtitles which can be created from plain 2D .srt by tools like srt23Dass for instance.
It can be downloaded from here. Please be careful not to download it from any other dodgy site.
The download link is at the bottom of the first post in the forum.
The .ass output file is a textual file and therefore more manageable. You can easily choose your own font, color, size, base... etc. The only downside of it is that you set one depth for all the captions. Unless you are crazy about the movie and want to edit the depth manually of the individual subtitles.
One additional note about srt23Dass is that it does not "squeeze" the subtitles and so after conversion you need to manually reduce ScaleX OR ScaleY in the file to 50.
Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be developed anymore, which is a shame.
The ideal subtitles tool for me would be something like that which could also make use of the real 3D depth extracted from the 3D planes from the video stream.

Last edited by konikpolny; 3rd March 2016 at 12:56.
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